Solved Windows 7 backup taking too much space and too long

figosound

New member
Local time
3:47 PM
Messages
8
Hi,
I have a very mysterious problem when trying to backup my system.
C: drive is a 500 GB disk filled to almost 70%, so there are more or less 350 GB of data, OS included.
H: drive is a 1TB disk used only for backup purposes.

I have setup Windows Backup to do a backup of OS and user data with all the recommended options enabled once a week, which shouldn't be a problem, given the sizes of source and destination; as a matter of fact, on a almost identical machine those options resulted in one system image plus 3 backup periods, and the 1TB drive was not even filled up.

Strangely, this machine I'm trying to fix was not back upping properly, saying that the destination drive was full. I have checked the amounts of space used by SysImages (approx. 300 GB [!]) and Backup Periods (approx 670GB [!!!]), and there was only ONE big backup period, so I could not delete older periods to make room for new ones, which by the way is what Windows backup should do by itself.

I have tried to reset all the options, then proceeded to format the backup drive, then start the backup from scratch: this resulted AGAIN in a full drive, a 300GB SysImage and 670GB of "incremental" backup period...

Leaving things this way leads to Win Backup error, stating that the destination drive is full, so I can only do manual, non incremental backups.

Also, back upping 350GB of data takes about 8-9 hours: this is really too much time, given that both drives are sataII, CPU is a PhenomII X4 955 BE with 4GB RAM.

Does anyone have an idea on what's going on here? I really need a solution :)

Thanks!
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
Use this for your images. Much better than the windows built in program The best free imaging program you can get. Includes scheduling and incremental/differential, which you don't get in other free.

FREE Backup software for Windows 7, 8 and Server 2008 R2, 2012

You can also get the Aomei partition assistant Pro version free today from here:

Giveaway of the Day - free licensed software daily. AOMEI Partition Assistant Pro 5.5 - AOMEI Partition Assistant Pro is a complete and professional partition solution for PCs.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    7 X64i5 84002x8gb 3200mhz
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7 X64
    CPU
    i5 8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Hard Drives
    various
    PSU
    pure power 11 400w cm
    Case
    Coolermaster
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • At a glance

    7x64g54008gb ddr4 2400
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7x64
    CPU
    g5400
    Motherboard
    ga b365m ds3h
    Memory
    8gb ddr4 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450w

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bitIntel i7-3930KKingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modul...MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7-3930K
Motherboard
ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory
Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
Sound Card
Asus Xonar Essence STX
Monitor(s) Displays
3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080, ?
Hard Drives
Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
PSU
Corsair HX750w
Case
Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
Cooling
Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
Keyboard
Logitech G510s
Mouse
Logitech M525 (two in use)
Internet Speed
=< 32Mbps down, 8Mbps up
Antivirus
AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
Browser
IE11
Other Info
LSI 9211-8i HBA card (8 SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Corsair SP2500 2.1 speakers, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, Cyberpower PP2200SW UPS
The op wants backup periods. Therefore he wants scheduling and incremental/differential. Only Aomei does that free. It is also quick.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    7 X64i5 84002x8gb 3200mhz
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7 X64
    CPU
    i5 8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Hard Drives
    various
    PSU
    pure power 11 400w cm
    Case
    Coolermaster
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • At a glance

    7x64g54008gb ddr4 2400
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7x64
    CPU
    g5400
    Motherboard
    ga b365m ds3h
    Memory
    8gb ddr4 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450w
While incremental and differential images are faster than taking full images every time, it's also risky since one has to keep track of all images plus, if one gets lost or corrupted, then a restoration will fail. Making an image is the most efficient way to backup just an OS and program only partition but, for a separate data partition, a folder/file syncing program, such as FreeFileSync, is far more efficient and safer.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bitIntel i7-3930KKingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modul...MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7-3930K
Motherboard
ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory
Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
Sound Card
Asus Xonar Essence STX
Monitor(s) Displays
3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080, ?
Hard Drives
Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
PSU
Corsair HX750w
Case
Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
Cooling
Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
Keyboard
Logitech G510s
Mouse
Logitech M525 (two in use)
Internet Speed
=< 32Mbps down, 8Mbps up
Antivirus
AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
Browser
IE11
Other Info
LSI 9211-8i HBA card (8 SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Corsair SP2500 2.1 speakers, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, Cyberpower PP2200SW UPS
Risky? I suppose that is why most keep it for their paid programs- like macrium does.

I started the whole macrium thing going on these forums. Vista forums 2008/9. Shawn and many others picked up on my recommendation.

Vista didn't have any imaging built ( except ultimate iirc. ) There wasn't anything else around. Macrium saw the opportunity and used the free version to get themselves known. It was the best at the time. That carried over to seven forums as many who started sf up came over from vf.

It was the best then and it is still good now. If you like it, and have lots on images in their format, by all means stay with it.

It is different now. Others are offering more and better. That is their way of getting themselves known.

I recommend the best solution. I am not partisan. It is an area of special interest to me. I have tested these kind of products for different companies.

Right now Aomei is the best.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    7 X64i5 84002x8gb 3200mhz
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7 X64
    CPU
    i5 8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Hard Drives
    various
    PSU
    pure power 11 400w cm
    Case
    Coolermaster
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • At a glance

    7x64g54008gb ddr4 2400
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7x64
    CPU
    g5400
    Motherboard
    ga b365m ds3h
    Memory
    8gb ddr4 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450w
Thank you all for the advices, but my question remains the same: how come, on two almost identical machines, windows backup gives two completely different results? Why it takes so long, and why it uses so much space?

I surely can consider other backup solutions, but first I really want to understand this thing :)
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
I can't believe nobody else got this issue... Anyway, I'll add some other details:
C: used space: 324 GB (OS + applications + data)

On drive H:
Data files backup: 611 GB in one backup period from 28/01/2014 to THE SAME DATE
System Image: 308 GB
Other files: 689 MB
Free space: 10.6 GB
Total size: 931.5 GB

Now we wait :)
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
Ok guys, I'm feeling a little idiot...
I can't explain why, but some very big folders in another drive (G: ) ended up in the Video library, so Win Backup was obviously back upping them. Now I removed them from the library, and I'm expecting much smaller backup periods to be done in much less time.
I will post result, and hopefully declare "solved" this thread :)
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
Update as promised:

On drive H:
Data files backup: 130 GB in one backup period
System Image: 326 GB
Other files: 3.02 GB
Free space: 472 GB
Total size: 931.5 GB

Solved :o
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
Back
Top