Solved Windows 7 bugs list. Microsoft please read!

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I can't seem to reproduce any of those errors on my machine. Add on programs and drivers seem to be the cause of problems like this. If it was a true Windows bug we should all be seeing the same problem.
 

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I can confirm both bugs, and I was part of the official Windows 7 beta program.

I find Windows Media Player will often do this, especially if I click on a media file from the internet, view or listen to it, then close the player and repeat the process.

As for the Windows Live Messenger bug, this mostly happens in conjunction with Firefox and it has definitely been reported.

I still think they should ditch Windows Media Player in favour of the Zune software suite, and move any heavy stuff to Windows Media Center.
I can't fully utilise the Zune store as Microsoft don't know what a 'UK' is, but as a player it works, and looks very nice.

As for Windows Live Essentials, I love the idea, but I was highly dubious when the RC was signed off as RTM without any changes. However, wave 4 shouldn't be too far away and should integrate and work much better with Windows 7.

Finally! Someone who knows what I'm talking about! Yes Firefox does seem to be the only application which triggers the Windows Live Messenger bug when I minimise Firefox!

And yes you seem to be experiencing the same bug in WMP as me too!

To the rest: People I am using all drivers which are certified either by MS or other vendors. My graphics driver has WHQL mark. Only software I am using which isn't fully W7 compatable is Firefox 3.5.2. :D

@ Dazeon

Please let me know if you find any more info on the 2 bugs. Thx :)
 
Sounds more like two people running to more of a buggy circumstance where these only appear under cetain conditions. Maybe you shoud taking notes on what things are the same on both of your systems but not on others. Then you can submit some feedback you have documented once you know what the cause is for each.
 

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Is anyone else having the Windows Media Player 12 bug I mentioned in OP?
 
I've only just looked at this thread. Ref the media player problem, maybe it's a bug in W7, or maybe it's just a case of MS enforcing some stricter rules, causing some s/w that used to work to now have problems. I certainly don't know the answer, but I suggest that MS should investigate, even if the outcome is to simply say 'If this (xyz) isn't done correctly, the app may fail in the manner described...' or some such.

The reason for my interest can be seen by looking at a thread I started elsewhere
*** LINK REMOVED ***http://windows7forums.com/windows-7-support/17012-powerdesk-process-remains-after-exiting-gui.html

After invoking, using, and exiting PowerDesk, a subsequent attempt to invoke it again results in a running process that can be seen in TaskManager, but no GUI. Another attempt to invoke it results in another process, but again no GUI. This will go on, presumably until you run out of memory. However, killing those processes until there is just one left magically causes the GUI to pop up, and everything is back to normal.

This doesn't happen **every** time that PD is invoked again after a previous use, but it's often enough to be a problem. I had suspected that it might have been because I was running W7 x64. However, one of the responders to my thread was running 32-bit W7, and I note that the OP of this thread is also running 32-bit.

I have also heard (once, no documentation, etc) from someone, to the effect of 'yeah, I've seen something like that...'. So maybe there are a number of apps that could exhibit similar problems.

My W7 x64 (i7, 6GB, ATI HD4870, 2TB disk) is rock solid, all networking (wired and wireless) sorted completely, sharing going just right, Virtualbox running like a dream, etc. So I don't put any of this down to a flaky installation (RC1 7100).

It would be interesting to hear about any other apps that fail to bring up their GUI sometimes.

Roger
 
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I've been running WMP 12 here practically daily for both video and audio tracks leaving the visualizations running without one glitch being seen. This is still in the 64bit RC as well. When running the 32bit RC on the vhd at times for a few tracks that always seemed to be troublefree as well.
 

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    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64/W11 Pro Triple Boot - Main PC W7 Remote PC Micro ATX W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 2nd remote pc
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    Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4-Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
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    Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Hyper X Fury 8gb 2nd
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    MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower
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    Creative Labs X-Fi Xtreme Audio P - Realtek onooard 2nd case
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    ASUS VW199T-P 19" HP 2082a Main-HP 2082a 20" remote pc
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    Asus 1440x900 - HP 1600x900
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    WD Black 1TB HD per OS W7, W10, and pending W11 presently on 500gb OS Drive - Pending Triple 1TB HDs for Spanned Storage/backup volume
    Single 2TB external USB enclosure, single 1TB System 7 Host/Boot drive, Pending 8TB external HD for system image b
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    Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second
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    Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower
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    Zalman CNPS9900A
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    AZIO L70 Backlit Letters Gaming - ONN Cordless/USB
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    MSI DS200 Programmable, Logitech Cordless
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    30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi
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    GFI VIPRE Internet Security 2014 on W7 2016 beta on W10,
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    Cyberfox, WaterFox 64bit FF variants, FireFox x64, Pale Moon
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    Accomdata fan cooled usb 2.0 PIDE/Sata II, III external enclosure.
    Sambient usb/eSata PATA/Sata II, III external enclosure.
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    W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
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    Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
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    Kingston Hyper X Fury 8gb
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    MSI HD Radeon 6450 DVI Output
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    WD 500GB OS Host/Boot WD Green 1TB Storage/Backup
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    Twin 120mm Top Fans - 240mm Side Cover
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    ONN Cordless/USB Logitech Cordless
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    DSL 5G
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    MS Edge, FireFox, WaterFox x64, FireFox Nightly
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    OS Testing-Remote Access to Main TeamViewer
Bug 2: Windows Live Messenger suddenly pops up when you are minimising other application. For example: I was signed in to WLM (latest version 14.0.8089.726) and had all WLM windows shut (it was still running in taskbar). I also had Firefox 3.5.2 open. I minimised Firefox then for some reason, WLM came up as if I clicked it, of course I didn't! And no I didn't receive a new IM or something which caused a window to pop up. This is a bug. It only happens with WLM popping up, so I the bug is with WLM and not Win7.


This bug with WLM has been know for a long time, at least by me since Beta 7000, I'm sure others. Seems no one has posted the usual quick fix to stop WLM buggy behavior...which is to Run it in Vista compatibility mode, and that minimizing behavior should stop. It will also put it into the system tray under compatibility mode. Not sure why they haven't fixed it in WLM yet, I'm pretty sure that it was reported in the earlier days.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...essenger-taskbar-notification-icon.html?ltr=W


If you do a search, I'm sure you will find older threads mentioning these various problems with WLM. Here's a few examples...

http://www.sevenforums.com/software/24186-firefox-windows-live-messenger-windows-7-a.html
http://www.sevenforums.com/software/7277-windows-messenger-pops-up-when-i-minimize-another.html
http://www.sevenforums.com/software/5531-problems-windows-live-messenger-9-0-a.html

http://www.sevenforums.com/software/26652-msn-messenger.html
http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/1730-any-way-minimize-windows-live-messenger-tray.html
 

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Asus P6X58D Premium - Sata 6Gb/s - USB 3.0
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ASUS Xonar D2X
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Firefox Nightly
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I tend to agree readily there despite seeing the latest version of WLM go on. At times when leaving messenger active but idle for several hours since it alerts you to any new incoming mail I suddenly get a pink banner running across stating some connection problem has been seen with your hardware?! Once I close it out and resign in it comes back to life in an instant.
 

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    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64/W11 Pro Triple Boot - Main PC W7 Remote PC Micro ATX W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 2nd remote pc
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4-Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
    Memory
    Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Hyper X Fury 8gb 2nd
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower
    Sound Card
    Creative Labs X-Fi Xtreme Audio P - Realtek onooard 2nd case
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS VW199T-P 19" HP 2082a Main-HP 2082a 20" remote pc
    Screen Resolution
    Asus 1440x900 - HP 1600x900
    Hard Drives
    WD Black 1TB HD per OS W7, W10, and pending W11 presently on 500gb OS Drive - Pending Triple 1TB HDs for Spanned Storage/backup volume
    Single 2TB external USB enclosure, single 1TB System 7 Host/Boot drive, Pending 8TB external HD for system image b
    PSU
    Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second
    Case
    Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower
    Cooling
    Zalman CNPS9900A
    Keyboard
    AZIO L70 Backlit Letters Gaming - ONN Cordless/USB
    Mouse
    MSI DS200 Programmable, Logitech Cordless
    Internet Speed
    30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi
    Antivirus
    GFI VIPRE Internet Security 2014 on W7 2016 beta on W10,
    Browser
    Cyberfox, WaterFox 64bit FF variants, FireFox x64, Pale Moon
    Other Info
    Accomdata fan cooled usb 2.0 PIDE/Sata II, III external enclosure.
    Sambient usb/eSata PATA/Sata II, III external enclosure.
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    CUSTOM ASSEMBLY
    OS
    W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Deneb 3.6ghz - 965
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
    Memory
    Kingston Hyper X Fury 8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI HD Radeon 6450 DVI Output
    Sound Card
    Realtek onooard Creative or Other separate PENDING
    Monitor(s) Displays
    VIZIO 32" LCD TV Separate LCD Pending
    Screen Resolution
    1600x1080
    Hard Drives
    WD 500GB OS Host/Boot WD Green 1TB Storage/Backup
    PSU
    Corsair 600W - THERMALTAKE 600W spare case
    Case
    NZXT Vulcan mini tower
    Cooling
    Twin 120mm Top Fans - 240mm Side Cover
    Keyboard
    ONN Cordless/USB Logitech Cordless
    Mouse
    ONN USB/Cordless - Logitech Cordless
    Internet Speed
    DSL 5G
    Browser
    MS Edge, FireFox, WaterFox x64, FireFox Nightly
    Other Info
    OS Testing-Remote Access to Main TeamViewer
@ Airbot

Yes I knew about the other threads on WLM. I am just very surprised that hardly anyone else has the WMP 12 bug, which has been the biggest annoyance for me. To the point where I just don't put my laptop to sleep anymore. I tried 'googling' the bug but no use...:(
 
One thing to try if you have WLM active at the same time you want to run WMP is to uncheck the automatic connect online option in the WMP settings. When WMP isn't set to auto connect it won't in any conflict with WLM or vice versa simply being run offline.

When messenger in particular is active it seems to grab at bandiwdth when having multiple IE windows open at the same time.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    Custom builds = 2
    OS
    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64/W11 Pro Triple Boot - Main PC W7 Remote PC Micro ATX W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 2nd remote pc
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4-Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
    Memory
    Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Hyper X Fury 8gb 2nd
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower
    Sound Card
    Creative Labs X-Fi Xtreme Audio P - Realtek onooard 2nd case
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS VW199T-P 19" HP 2082a Main-HP 2082a 20" remote pc
    Screen Resolution
    Asus 1440x900 - HP 1600x900
    Hard Drives
    WD Black 1TB HD per OS W7, W10, and pending W11 presently on 500gb OS Drive - Pending Triple 1TB HDs for Spanned Storage/backup volume
    Single 2TB external USB enclosure, single 1TB System 7 Host/Boot drive, Pending 8TB external HD for system image b
    PSU
    Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second
    Case
    Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower
    Cooling
    Zalman CNPS9900A
    Keyboard
    AZIO L70 Backlit Letters Gaming - ONN Cordless/USB
    Mouse
    MSI DS200 Programmable, Logitech Cordless
    Internet Speed
    30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi
    Antivirus
    GFI VIPRE Internet Security 2014 on W7 2016 beta on W10,
    Browser
    Cyberfox, WaterFox 64bit FF variants, FireFox x64, Pale Moon
    Other Info
    Accomdata fan cooled usb 2.0 PIDE/Sata II, III external enclosure.
    Sambient usb/eSata PATA/Sata II, III external enclosure.
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    CUSTOM ASSEMBLY
    OS
    W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Deneb 3.6ghz - 965
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
    Memory
    Kingston Hyper X Fury 8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI HD Radeon 6450 DVI Output
    Sound Card
    Realtek onooard Creative or Other separate PENDING
    Monitor(s) Displays
    VIZIO 32" LCD TV Separate LCD Pending
    Screen Resolution
    1600x1080
    Hard Drives
    WD 500GB OS Host/Boot WD Green 1TB Storage/Backup
    PSU
    Corsair 600W - THERMALTAKE 600W spare case
    Case
    NZXT Vulcan mini tower
    Cooling
    Twin 120mm Top Fans - 240mm Side Cover
    Keyboard
    ONN Cordless/USB Logitech Cordless
    Mouse
    ONN USB/Cordless - Logitech Cordless
    Internet Speed
    DSL 5G
    Browser
    MS Edge, FireFox, WaterFox x64, FireFox Nightly
    Other Info
    OS Testing-Remote Access to Main TeamViewer
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