Windows 7 May Not Be Much Faster Than Vista

[Night Hawk]

It takes forever it seems for Vista to shutdown now. After so long it becomes time for a drive wipe there I guess. The 32bit 7000 build saw a longer shutdown due to trying a bunch od 3rd party gadgets once that option was going. With the RC however that little registry annoyance is taken care of!

 

[Win7User512]

Seven feels way more refined. The search feature is definitely faster and more accurate than Vista's.

I definitely second that.

It takes forever it seems for Vista to shutdown now. After so long it becomes time for a drive wipe there I guess. The 32bit 7000 build saw a longer shutdown due to trying a bunch od 3rd party gadgets once that option was going. With the RC however that little registry annoyance is taken care of!

Yeah, Vista's shutdown was fast at first, but after 2 months it was painfully slow.

 

[iThaos]

Hey, if people think that it's faster, they will think that there is a huge difference.

Don't spoil it for us

 

[Night Hawk]

The first install of the 32bit 7 beta go trashed there and was wiped to see that corrected. As for Vista that's been on since last fall and hasn't even been booted into much since the 7 beta release. I was still using XP at certain times until lately.

 

[XGUNTHERC]

as Those statistics may mean a little. it's the internal things that are better.

Win 7 is faster on Startup & shutdown. The main other thing is how efficient it is.. Windows 7 seems to run better with the same things installed. It takes less RAM to run just as well. Many many older computers, or laptops, and even netbooks that couldn't. Or struggled to run Vista. Are running Win 7.

The fact that if you got 2 of the same laptop, one with win 7 and one with vista. both with 1GB of ram. the Win 7 lappy would probably run better.

 

[Night Hawk]

That's the whole thing about 7 to begin with. Besides seeing the usual "new features" aspect you would expect with any new release MS took into account the problems people were running into upgrading the OS without upgrading the hardwares at the same time.

Prebuilds until Vista came out as you know always provided the low as far as memory like seeing 256 while everyone else was running 1gb or 512mb later when people saw 1-2gb as the typical for XP systems. Suddenly that's no longer any good since everyone starts looking at the 1gb more factor for Vista. Now they're all seeing 3-4gb preinstalled lately.

 

[kpo6969]

Dual-booting Win7 x86 RC 7100 and Vista x86 SP2 RTM.
Same hardware (1 hard drive partitioned), programs, settings, etc.
Win7 is quicker, but not by very much.
RTM SP2 Vista very stable, fast and reliable and a big improvement over even the 2 beta's, 2RC's, and the RC escrow.

 

[Night Hawk]

In prep for the RCs the XP/32bit 7000 drive saw a big change for the 32bit RC and recovery partition. As for seeing things run however the 64bit install and later upgrade repair install saw everything spring to life!

The 32bit still won't see one addon device working there however while even the 64bit 7000 did. The addon device through all this still only sees 32bit device drivers intended for ? XP!

 

[jeremy7]

Thanks... That is nice to hear..

 

[Night Hawk]

I have a feeling thatt the focus by MS is leaning more on the 64bit Windows for upcoming versions following 7 not only from different blogs but by attitudes seen at Technet when simply bringing up the problem many have with finding drivers. With Vista having seen far better support there for that 7 should see a much larger increment overall by 3rd party interests!

 

[dmex]

I have a feeling thatt the focus by MS is leaning more on the 64bit Windows for upcoming versions following 7

Windows 7 is the last 32bit release by Microsoft

 

[agtak]

Win 71 faster than Vista

My opinion as a layman:
I have both Win 7100 and Vista on separate hard disks on the same PC.
After installing win 7 end January, I use vista after every two weeks , just to update windows as a backup OS when Win 71 expires in March 2010.
Windows Vista runs like snail. Happy with Windows 7100 all the way.

 

[DrWho]

Having lived, and worked, through the change from 8 bit operating systems to 16 bit, and then to 32 bit, I was not looking forward to the jump to a 64 bit OS.

But, it's happening anyway, with or without my approval. So once again, I just have to learn how to deal with it. (I've been a computer tech for almost 30 years now)

The only problems I've had so far, with Win-7, 64bit, is that some of my old favorite and trusted Utilities won't run properly on a 64 bit OS.

But, unlike the 32 bit OS's that I've tried, Win-7 64 really SCREEEEEEEEMS! on my AMD X2, 64 @5200+ , with my 6 gigs of DDR2, Dual Channel ram.

Most fortunate of all is that almost all of my tweaks and tune-up tips that worked so well on Vista, also work on Win-7.

A friend of mine calls Win-7, "Vista with a tummy tuck and botox."

The one thing I really miss, with Win-7, is the "Classic Look".
In Vista I could set the Start Menu, screens and menus to "Classic" and make it more friendly for the older people upgrading from XP, or in some cases, from '98.

For the Solitaire players that didn't like the way MS screwed up their favorite game, in Vista, I found that I could just copy the old classic "Solitaire" from XP and install it in Vista and it would run just fine.

I'm glad that Win-7 is receiving such a warm welcome, but it will be several years before it becomes my Main OS. XP-Pro-SP3 does everything I need in an OS.

Cheers Mates! (Happy Mother's Day)

The Doctor

 

[jazzpicker]

Not much difference, if any

I'm new to the fourm but have used both 64 bit vista and WIn 7 build 7100 (and earlier versions) on fast desktop machines. I think that 7 leaves a smaller footprint but without benchmarking, I can't tell any difference in speed. Maybe if I was running the program on a slower laptop, the difference would be more evident.

I like the new sounds and interface but can't tell much difference in the operating systems. I am wondering if the difference in the programs will be worth the money to upgrade when the time comes. Maybe there are many improvments that I haven't discovered as of yet.

 

[Win7User512]

The one thing I really miss, with Win-7, is the "Classic Look".
In Vista I could set the Start Menu, screens and menus to "Classic" and make it more friendly for the older people upgrading from XP, or in some cases, from '98.


The Doctor

You still can. Go into where Themes are, scroll down to the bottom and select "Classic Theme."

 

[kpo6969]

In prep for the RCs the XP/32bit 7000 drive saw a big change for the 32bit RC and recovery partition. As for seeing things run however the 64bit install and later upgrade repair install saw everything spring to life!

The 32bit still won't see one addon device working there however while even the 64bit 7000 did. The addon device through all this still only sees 32bit device drivers intended for ? XP!

:huh:
What does this mean?

In prep for the RCs the XP/32bit 7000

 

[YupYup]

In prep for the RCs the XP/32bit 7000 drive saw a big change for the 32bit RC and recovery partition. As for seeing things run however the 64bit install and later upgrade repair install saw everything spring to life!

The 32bit still won't see one addon device working there however while even the 64bit 7000 did. The addon device through all this still only sees 32bit device drivers intended for ? XP!

:huh:
What does this mean?

In prep for the RCs the XP/32bit 7000

I think it means post count +1

 

[Night Hawk]

Windows 7 is the last 32bit release by Microsoft

I had seen one article about a year titled "MS plans to dump 32bit" suggesting Win 8 and others to follow if they name that 8 anyways will only be seeing 64bit editions.

My opinion as a layman:
I have both Win 7100 and Vista on separate hard disks on the same PC.
After installing win 7 end January, I use vista after every two weeks , just to update windows as a backup OS when Win 71 expires in March 2010.
Windows Vista runs like snail. Happy with Windows 7100 all the way.

For some time now Vista is only seeing a rare boot to add something on or simply update a few things. But sit there and wait 5minutes! for it to shutdown while having been a recent clean install back in November? slllowwww...

Having lived, and worked, through the change from 8 bit operating systems to 16 bit, and then to 32 bit, I was not looking forward to the jump to a 64 bit OS.

But, it's happening anyway, with or without my approval. So once again, I just have to learn how to deal with it. (I've been a computer tech for almost 30 years now)

The only problems I've had so far, with Win-7, 64bit, is that some of my old favorite and trusted Utilities won't run properly on a 64 bit OS.

But, unlike the 32 bit OS's that I've tried, Win-7 64 really SCREEEEEEEEMS! on my AMD X2, 64 @5200+ , with my 6 gigs of DDR2, Dual Channel ram.

Most fortunate of all is that almost all of my tweaks and tune-up tips that worked so well on Vista, also work on Win-7.

A friend of mine calls Win-7, "Vista with a tummy tuck and botox."

The one thing I really miss, with Win-7, is the "Classic Look".
In Vista I could set the Start Menu, screens and menus to "Classic" and make it more friendly for the older people upgrading from XP, or in some cases, from '98.

For the Solitaire players that didn't like the way MS screwed up their favorite game, in Vista, I found that I could just copy the old classic "Solitaire" from XP and install it in Vista and it would run just fine.

I'm glad that Win-7 is receiving such a warm welcome, but it will be several years before it becomes my Main OS. XP-Pro-SP3 does everything I need in an OS.

Cheers Mates! (Happy Mother's Day)

The Doctor

That's a real good one since I'm finding that older XP compatile items including some 32bit addon device drivers actually are working on the 64bit RC! This includes a mountain of other things downloaded as well as the regular softwares run.

You simply right click on any executable for them and select either the Vista or XP SP2 depending on new or old to see quite a bit on and working. The 32bit emulation has seen an improvement in 7 over what Vista saw there to consider as well.

 

[petrossa]

I have Vista x64 Sp2 and Windows x64 7 as dualboot. Actually, in my case at least, since installing RC 7100 i found it slower or equal to Vista.

The 'feel' is that vista responds quicker, even taken into account that my Vista is skinned by Windowblinds and 7 is not.

There is a distinct lag opening large folders with 7, the CPU runs slightly hotter whilst being less charged as 7 is a clean install and Vista is fully loaded.

This used to be the exact inverse for earlier versions of W7 and SP2 (notably the RTM Escrow) but since installing the last SP2 (build 18005) and the latest RC 7100 the tables have turned.

 

[Night Hawk]

What people seem to forget is that the first 7 builds out were beta stages with only a portion of the services running there. 7 was simply progressed far enough where the public testing could take place for things like testing on all kinds of systems with different environments for additional data on problems and potential problems as well.

From that point the various labs go to work on those as well as further refinements until everything is complied into the RC builds no longer in beta form. You're now starting to see more background processes running as well as a few more features available except once again Windows Mail. The RTM will or maybe will see that there as default or a separate item to download.