Windows 7 vs. Windows XP?

..I am sick and tired of having to re-install Windows XP every year just so that the computer is acceptably fast...

Your Other Option is to get an External Hard Drive and learn how to "Image" your system(s) for backup/recovery purposes.

I can recover back to a fresh install, mostly updated, loaded and running in about 15 minutes...
With the computer doing all the work.
Best Free Drive Imaging Program
http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/

I'm not too sure .. (It's a little early yet ) ...
If Windows 7 will need an occasional fresh install to tune it or fix it also.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP d4996t (upgraded)
OS
XP MCE .... XP Pro 64 .... W7 U x64
CPU
E6750, 2.67GHz C2D
Memory
4GB, PC2 6400
Graphics Card(s)
GeForce 9400GT
Monitor(s) Displays
Twin Samsung 2443BWT
Screen Resolution
1920x1200
Hard Drives
Many .. 3 Installed
PSU
460W
Internet Speed
Cable
If you're windows xp is working fine and meets all your needs in your computer works I suggest stick with it until this damn windows 7 is perfected.

I have two laptops with both windows vista, a 32 and 64bits had both upgraded to the much touted windows 7.

I am not happy at all, its unstable, text are overlapping, windows 7 media player wont play my files which I used to play with vista.

Please start a new thread for your issues to be resolved.

Start by right clicking your desktop to change Screen Resolution for overlapping text.

The issues you're experiencing are the install, not the OS.

We who beta tested it for over a year watched it being perfected.
 
Alright, this is very bad...

I installed Windows 7 successfully and it runs just as fast as XP, but the graphics card is not recognized. The greatest resolution I can run the machine at is 1024x768, the monitor just says "input signal out of range" if I try to go any higher. Does anyone know of a fix for the Radeon 9200SE card?
 
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My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Lenovo Thinkpad T400; old skool system: beige Power Macintosh G3
OS
Windows 7 x86, Mac OS 8.6
CPU
Intel Core2Duo P9500 2.53 GHz
Motherboard
uhhh... Lenovo?
Memory
3.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD3470 / Intel GMA X4500 (switchable)
Monitor(s) Displays
HN LED
Screen Resolution
1280x800
Hard Drives
160 GB 7200 RPM
Mouse
LASER!!!
Internet Speed
Unreasonably slow, especially considering what I pay.

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
self built
OS
Win7 x86
CPU
PhenomII x2 550 (unlocked 4 cores)
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3P
Memory
2x 2GB Kingston 1333
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte HD4850 1GB
Sound Card
onboard Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 2233
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
2x WD 512GB green sata2
PSU
Corsair 620
Case
Armor MX+
Cooling
all stock
Keyboard
MS Digital Media 3000
Mouse
MS Mouse 3000
Internet Speed
adsl2+
Installed driver?


there is the solution for you:
will my ati radeon 9200 se work with windows 7

quite clumsy but seems to work

I'd rather not be using a hacked driver; part of the reason I wanted to move to Windows 7 was because of the increased stability it offered compared to Windows XP. I'll try this and see if it works, but I'm still kinda pissed that the upgrade advisor didn't tell me my graphics card was completely unsupported; all it says is it will not support Aero. Nice trick for Microsoft to increase their sales no doubt.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Lenovo Thinkpad T400; old skool system: beige Power Macintosh G3
OS
Windows 7 x86, Mac OS 8.6
CPU
Intel Core2Duo P9500 2.53 GHz
Motherboard
uhhh... Lenovo?
Memory
3.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD3470 / Intel GMA X4500 (switchable)
Monitor(s) Displays
HN LED
Screen Resolution
1280x800
Hard Drives
160 GB 7200 RPM
Mouse
LASER!!!
Internet Speed
Unreasonably slow, especially considering what I pay.
Installed driver?


there is the solution for you:
will my ati radeon 9200 se work with windows 7

quite clumsy but seems to work

I'd rather not be using a hacked driver; part of the reason I wanted to move to Windows 7 was because of the increased stability it offered compared to Windows XP. I'll try this and see if it works, but I'm still kinda pissed that the upgrade advisor didn't tell me my graphics card was completely unsupported; all it says is it will not support Aero. Nice trick for Microsoft to increase their sales no doubt.
Please be aware that this is an issue regarding the manufacturer (ATI/AMD in this case) not providing AT LEAST a Windows Vista compatible driver...

I am just directing where to place your blame here...
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Compal JFT02 (Custom Build Laptop)
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 2.5 GHz
Motherboard
JFT02
Memory
4GB Kingston DDR2-800
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA Geforce 8600M GT (512MB Model)
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
WUXGA Standard Laptop Display
Screen Resolution
1680*1050
Hard Drives
Toshiba 320GB 5400RPM Laptop HD
PSU
Standard Laptop Power Supply
Case
Standard Laptop Case
Cooling
Standard Laptop Cooling
Keyboard
Standard Laptop 105 Key-Keyboard
Mouse
Synaptics Touchpad
Internet Speed
Verizion Online DSL 3360/864 kbs (dl/up)
Please be aware that this is an issue regarding the manufacturer (ATI/AMD in this case) not providing AT LEAST a Windows Vista compatible driver...

I am just directing where to place your blame here...

This is quite true, I'm not normally one to bash Microsoft... however, even if AMD prematurely dropped support for what is still a perfectly fine video card, the Windows 7 upgrade adviser failed to notify me of that. Sure, Aero won't run, but I don't care; even on my T400, I run Vista without Aero. But if it can't run above 1024 x 768 and the upgrade adviser said everything was kosher, then we have a problem.

I tried the graphics card hack, and at first it caused the OS to blue-screen (something which I have not seen since the days of Windows 98), then got it working for a little while, then had it blue-screen again when I tried to run Unreal Tournament 2004. I still need this computer to do some light gaming, so if it crashes in a 5-year-old game that is not too impressive.

I could buy a new video card, but I'd like to have DirectX11 support, and any decent one is over $80. I've already spent $64.99 on the hard drive (which I now consider to be a sunk cost) and $224 on Windows 7. I might just cut my losses, return Windows 7 to the store and have the Pentium 4 run Windows XP, like it was designed to do.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Lenovo Thinkpad T400; old skool system: beige Power Macintosh G3
OS
Windows 7 x86, Mac OS 8.6
CPU
Intel Core2Duo P9500 2.53 GHz
Motherboard
uhhh... Lenovo?
Memory
3.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD3470 / Intel GMA X4500 (switchable)
Monitor(s) Displays
HN LED
Screen Resolution
1280x800
Hard Drives
160 GB 7200 RPM
Mouse
LASER!!!
Internet Speed
Unreasonably slow, especially considering what I pay.
this is the reason i cant have windows 7.
Cuz i have the same G-card as you, and it does not support Aero.
(which btw, are you getting that horrible grey tasbar instead of a clear transparent one?)
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Compaq Presario 061 - PX628AA-ABU- SR1420UK GB520
OS
Windows 7 ultimate (build 7600 32bit)
CPU
AMD Athlon 64 processor 3000+ 2009 Mhz (2.1Ghz) 1 core
Memory
1Gb
Graphics Card(s)
Standard VGA graphics adapter ATI Radeon 9200 (8bit 128mb)
Sound Card
Realtek AC'97
Hard Drives
40gb
When you guys run a fairly dated piece of hardware then it would be unfair to blame anyone - looking up the Win7 Radeon driver support it starts with the Radeon 9500. It's quite inexpensive to just get a newer card and all is well and happy.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
self built
OS
Win7 x86
CPU
PhenomII x2 550 (unlocked 4 cores)
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3P
Memory
2x 2GB Kingston 1333
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte HD4850 1GB
Sound Card
onboard Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 2233
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
2x WD 512GB green sata2
PSU
Corsair 620
Case
Armor MX+
Cooling
all stock
Keyboard
MS Digital Media 3000
Mouse
MS Mouse 3000
Internet Speed
adsl2+
this is the reason i cant have windows 7.
Cuz i have the same G-card as you, and it does not support Aero.
(which btw, are you getting that horrible grey tasbar instead of a clear transparent one?)

Yeah, I have the grey taskbar, but I really don't mind it that much.

Anyways, my friend says he found an old GeForce FX5200 card in his basement. This is not the greatest card in the world but it should allow Windows 7 to operate at a decent resolution. I am not sure about Windows 7 support, but does anyone know if this card at least has Windows Vista support?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Lenovo Thinkpad T400; old skool system: beige Power Macintosh G3
OS
Windows 7 x86, Mac OS 8.6
CPU
Intel Core2Duo P9500 2.53 GHz
Motherboard
uhhh... Lenovo?
Memory
3.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD3470 / Intel GMA X4500 (switchable)
Monitor(s) Displays
HN LED
Screen Resolution
1280x800
Hard Drives
160 GB 7200 RPM
Mouse
LASER!!!
Internet Speed
Unreasonably slow, especially considering what I pay.
I could buy a new video card, but I'd like to have DirectX11 support, and any decent one is over $80.

My question would be...why hold out for a DX11 card in an old Pentium 4 box? If you really needed DX11 for high-end gaming, you are going to have to replace the machine. So, why not just buy a light duty video card now which will support and run Windows 7 and provide aero support and just get a nicer video card down the line with a new machine???? I mean you can find a card under $40 that will easily support aero and will be way better than the 9200se that you currently have.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-Built in July 2009
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
Memory
8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
Sound Card
Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
Monitor(s) Displays
23" Acer x233H
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
PSU
Corsair 620HX modular
Case
Antec P182
Cooling
stock
Keyboard
ABS M1 Mechanical
Mouse
Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
Internet Speed
15/2 cable modem
Other Info
Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.
My question would be...why hold out for a DX11 card in an old Pentium 4 box? If you really needed DX11 for high-end gaming, you are going to have to replace the machine. So, why not just buy a light duty video card now which will support and run Windows 7 and provide aero support and just get a nicer video card down the line with a new machine???? I mean you can find a card under $40 that will easily support aero and will be way better than the 9200se that you currently have.

Yeah, plan's changed... now I'm trying to figure out whether or not my friend's GeForce FX5200 will work in Windows 7. This "upgrade" was done almost entirely out of my pocket and at this point I would really, really like to avoid paying more.
 

My Computer

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Lenovo Thinkpad T400; old skool system: beige Power Macintosh G3
OS
Windows 7 x86, Mac OS 8.6
CPU
Intel Core2Duo P9500 2.53 GHz
Motherboard
uhhh... Lenovo?
Memory
3.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD3470 / Intel GMA X4500 (switchable)
Monitor(s) Displays
HN LED
Screen Resolution
1280x800
Hard Drives
160 GB 7200 RPM
Mouse
LASER!!!
Internet Speed
Unreasonably slow, especially considering what I pay.
FX5200 has Vista drivers - try it under win7 and see what happens or google a bit about other people's experience
 

My Computer

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self built
OS
Win7 x86
CPU
PhenomII x2 550 (unlocked 4 cores)
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3P
Memory
2x 2GB Kingston 1333
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte HD4850 1GB
Sound Card
onboard Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 2233
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
2x WD 512GB green sata2
PSU
Corsair 620
Case
Armor MX+
Cooling
all stock
Keyboard
MS Digital Media 3000
Mouse
MS Mouse 3000
Internet Speed
adsl2+
Alright, hopefully this works... theoretically everything that worked under Windows Vista should also work under Windows 7. I'll install the card on boxing day or something, since I'll be a little occupied with Christmas. I'll let you all know how it works.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Lenovo Thinkpad T400; old skool system: beige Power Macintosh G3
OS
Windows 7 x86, Mac OS 8.6
CPU
Intel Core2Duo P9500 2.53 GHz
Motherboard
uhhh... Lenovo?
Memory
3.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD3470 / Intel GMA X4500 (switchable)
Monitor(s) Displays
HN LED
Screen Resolution
1280x800
Hard Drives
160 GB 7200 RPM
Mouse
LASER!!!
Internet Speed
Unreasonably slow, especially considering what I pay.
The FX5200 works! I can't get Aero to run properly, but that's not the point. The graphics card does not crash the system and I can finally get my 1280x1024 resolution. I also installed my free upgrade of Windows 7 Professional on my Thinkpad, so I'm busily trying to re-install all my programs on both machines. Thanks for your help everyone!
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Lenovo Thinkpad T400; old skool system: beige Power Macintosh G3
OS
Windows 7 x86, Mac OS 8.6
CPU
Intel Core2Duo P9500 2.53 GHz
Motherboard
uhhh... Lenovo?
Memory
3.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD3470 / Intel GMA X4500 (switchable)
Monitor(s) Displays
HN LED
Screen Resolution
1280x800
Hard Drives
160 GB 7200 RPM
Mouse
LASER!!!
Internet Speed
Unreasonably slow, especially considering what I pay.
Hi, this is my first time posting, so please bear with me...

I have a Pentium 4 Desktop that is currently running Windows XP Home Edition with Service Pack 3. My family is not so good with computers, and I am sick and tired of having to re-install Windows XP every year just so that the computer is acceptably fast. The OS itself is also beginning to look dated, and it has far more security holes in comparison to the new Windows versions.

I was thinking about upgrading to Windows 7 Home Premium Edition, but I was worried about the performance. The current system has a 3.0 GHz Pentium 4 w/ HT, 1.5 GB of RAM, and a 160 GB hard drive (soon to be replaced with a 250 GB one). The graphics card is an ATI Radeon 9200 series. Will Windows 7 performance be in line with Windows XP on this setup, or will it be noticeable degraded? Let me know your thoughts!

If you're windows xp is working fine and meets all your needs in your computer works I suggest stick with it until this damn windows 7 is perfected.

I have two laptops with both windows vista, a 32 and 64bits had both upgraded to the much touted windows 7.

I am not happy at all, its unstable, text are overlapping, windows 7 media player wont play my files which I used to play with vista.


if you are finding 7 unstable you did something wrong. 7 runs faster than vista ever did, 7 starts up and shuts down faster than vista ever did, 7 is far more stable and secure than vista. as far as windows media player you should always replace it with a third party app. one that does not insist on sending out all of you media files info to microsour.
 

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InternetLord
OS
Windows 7 Eternity Build 7600 RTM Activated x86
CPU
Core2Duo E8400
Motherboard
Asus Rampage Formula
Memory
3gis DDR2 6400
Graphics Card(s)
Asus NVidia 9500 GTX 512mb
Sound Card
Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio PCI-e
Monitor(s) Displays
SCEPTRE X22WG-1080P 22"
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
Western Digital 300gig SATA VelociRaptor 10,000rpm
two 320gig SATA Seagate Barracuda 7,200rpm
PSU
700 Watt
Case
U2-UFO Black Powder Coat - Solid Top www.mountainmod.com
Cooling
7 x 120mm 2,500rpm case fans, Ultra ChillTEC Thermoelectric
Keyboard
Logitech diNovo Edge
Mouse
Logitech LX8 Laser Mouse
Internet Speed
7mbps
Other Info
Hauppauge WinTV HRV-1800 PCI-e
if you are finding 7 unstable you did something wrong. 7 runs faster than vista ever did, 7 starts up and shuts down faster than vista ever did, 7 is far more stable and secure than vista. as far as windows media player you should always replace it with a third party app. one that does not insist on sending out all of you media files info to microsour.

I've been running a popular batch file on all new installs for several years which turns off the WMP sharing services so that it can't turn itself back on.

WMP actually runs better.

Don't use it if you stream over home network. Set a restore point.
 

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i recommend not using wmp simply because it takes far more resources to run than competing players do.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
InternetLord
OS
Windows 7 Eternity Build 7600 RTM Activated x86
CPU
Core2Duo E8400
Motherboard
Asus Rampage Formula
Memory
3gis DDR2 6400
Graphics Card(s)
Asus NVidia 9500 GTX 512mb
Sound Card
Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio PCI-e
Monitor(s) Displays
SCEPTRE X22WG-1080P 22"
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
Western Digital 300gig SATA VelociRaptor 10,000rpm
two 320gig SATA Seagate Barracuda 7,200rpm
PSU
700 Watt
Case
U2-UFO Black Powder Coat - Solid Top www.mountainmod.com
Cooling
7 x 120mm 2,500rpm case fans, Ultra ChillTEC Thermoelectric
Keyboard
Logitech diNovo Edge
Mouse
Logitech LX8 Laser Mouse
Internet Speed
7mbps
Other Info
Hauppauge WinTV HRV-1800 PCI-e
I had w7 running on 1.5gb of ram with a pentium 4 2.8ghz cpu.
 

My Computer

OS
windows 7/windows xp/windows vista
CPU
AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition Callisto 3.1GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte AM3 785G ATX
Memory
Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 2GB 240-Pin DDR3
Hard Drives
Western Digitial Cavier Blue 500GB
PSU
Earthwatts 500w
Case
Antec Sonata III
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