Windows 8, a Repeat of Windows 7

[adamsuail]

My wishlist includes proper multi monitor support without the need for 3rd party software.

I typically use two monitors without 3rd party apps. What is it you want to do that requires additional software?

i use a laptop with a docking station, the laptop is always on hibernate mode, and every time i dock it in, i have to drag the LCD to the right and adjust the resolution which is a pain in the butt.
so am using a program called UltraMon that takes care of that and it also gives you a nice option to add a taskbar on the extended mon to minimize the windows, you can also create multipile profiles if you like, there is also an option to export the settings to use it later in case you had to format the pc...greate app, there is much more to it.

 

[Carl Lawrence]

Get rid of the UAC!

 

[BCXtreme]

My wishlist includes proper multi monitor support without the need for 3rd party software.

I typically use two monitors without 3rd party apps. What is it you want to do that requires additional software?

i use a laptop with a docking station, the laptop is always on hibernate mode, and every time i dock it in, i have to drag the LCD to the right and adjust the resolution which is a pain in the butt.
so am using a program called UltraMon that takes care of that and it also gives you a nice option to add a taskbar on the extended mon to minimize the windows, you can also create multipile profiles if you like, there is also an option to export the settings to use it later in case you had to format the pc...greate app, there is much more to it.

I see what you mean. I too have experienced difficulty with multiple monitors when they are not always plugged in, which is often the case with a laptop. It would be nice if they fixed it, but I have no idea how they would. The problem seems to be related to whether you plug/unplug the cable when the computer is sleeping/hibernating, as opposed to doing so just before you hibernate (or after you bring it out).

Get rid of the UAC!

The benefits of UAC have been well documented on this website, most recently I believe in this topic.

 

[alphanumeric]

I would like to see Win 8 recognise that we are not all completely unfamiliar with setting up computers and grant us that we may be intelligent enough to actually decide what we want to be loaded onto our system. I think WinMin should be the basic start point and then be allowed to pick and choose from a list of functions and programs to install. Basically similar Linux installations. After all..if we are totally honest, 99% of us don't use probably 80% of the items in Control Panel. Yes, the should be a default option to load all as at present because many people just want the easy way to install/upgrade their systems, but for the more savvy out here, choice would be a fine thing!!

I think you will get as many for as against that option. The one big kink in that, that I see, is it will break the anytime upgrade feature. Right now you can plug in your product code and the extra features are enabled without having to put in your install media. Having to insert your windows 7 DVD to do the upgrade could be a real pain if you are trying to do it on a netbook that doesn't have an optical drive and didn't come with a DVD of any type. :shock: Since most of the netbooks come out of the box with starter edition installed, I can see that feature being used a lot in that case. Just my 2 cents.
I haven't gone out of my way to prove it but it appears to me that going into the "add remove windows features" doesn't actually remove them, it just hides them, makes them unavailable.

 

[Yanta]

I sure hope they bring back an animated defrag UI.

It's be nice if they could find a cure for WIndows' 7 Alzheimers... It's inability remember folder sizes and positions...

 

[Consequences]

I sure hope they bring back an animated defrag UI.

It's be nice if they could find a cure for WIndows' 7 Alzheimers... It's inability remember folder sizes and positions...

I don't believe that has ever been a problem for me. Is it common?
Also I second the bringing back the defragmenter's GUI. I miss it! Until then I use Auslogics. Bring it back, Microsoft!

 

[Barman58]

I cannot, personally, think of any task, that is best served by a total lack of a fancy GUI, than that of drive de-fragmenting.
Even if I decide to run a 3rd party app to provide better functionality, I invariably run the task in the background and set to hide, the presence of a GUI for this type of task will likely double, (or more), the application memory footprint.

 

[Consequences]

I cannot, personally, think of any task, that is best served by a total lack of a fancy GUI, than that of drive de-fragmenting.
Even if I decide to run a 3rd party app to provide better functionality, I invariably run the task in the background and set to hide, the presence of a GUI for this type of task will likely double, (or more), the application memory footprint.

Perhaps having a choice would be the best solution. Those that want a GUI may have it. Those that do not, may not.

 

[alphanumeric]

I sure hope they bring back an animated defrag UI.

It's be nice if they could find a cure for WIndows' 7 Alzheimers... It's inability remember folder sizes and positions...

I don't believe that has ever been a problem for me. Is it common?
Also I second the bringing back the defragmenter's GUI. I miss it! Until then I use Auslogics. Bring it back, Microsoft!

I've experienced it on more than one occasion. I don't know what triggers it but it is really annoying when it happens. I use dual monitors so I like the app to open full screen on my monitor of choice.

 

[BCXtreme]

I cannot, personally, think of any task, that is best served by a total lack of a fancy GUI, than that of drive de-fragmenting.
Even if I decide to run a 3rd party app to provide better functionality, I invariably run the task in the background and set to hide, the presence of a GUI for this type of task will likely double, (or more), the application memory footprint.

Agreed. Some things are better when they are simple.

I cannot, personally, think of any task, that is best served by a total lack of a fancy GUI, than that of drive de-fragmenting.
Even if I decide to run a 3rd party app to provide better functionality, I invariably run the task in the background and set to hide, the presence of a GUI for this type of task will likely double, (or more), the application memory footprint.

Perhaps having a choice would be the best solution. Those that want a GUI may have it. Those that do not, may not.

Also agreed. There's never 100% consensus on anything, so having the choice is best.

 

[Win7User512]

They could have a UI version and a console version.

 

[johnwillyums]

Surely MS have to create a "need" for us to upgrade. They are probably working with partners on supplementary technologies, for both business and enthusiast markets, that will be desirable enough to make us need Windows 8.

 

[Win7User512]

Surely MS have to create a "need" for us to upgrade. They are probably working with partners on supplementary technologies, for both business and enthusiast markets, that will be desirable enough to make us need Windows 8.

It will certainly be interesting to see what they come up with; especially since their homegrown included apps aren't particularly inclusive (Movie Maker, DVD Maker, etc).

 

[logicearth]

Also agreed. There's never 100% consensus on anything, so having the choice is best.

They could have a UI version and a console version.

There is already a choice! Third-party developed applications is the alternative choice. If you are so in need to have those pretty little meaningless boxes bouncing around there you are. Microsoft has already documented that they are not going to add such a useless item to the UI. They are trying to make so you never have to think about defragmentation.

I have one option on my wish list, I need to see some advanced copy/paste features.
It’s VERY annoying when it skips the entire copy process because one locked file or so.
What I want it to do is, copy everything it can and then display a list of the problematic files with an action option beside EACH on of them..like retry, skip, cancel...

Windows Vista and Windows 7 already does that! It skips (is asks what todo, of course) files it cannot move, copy, or delete. Windows XP is what you are thinking of that stop the moment it hits a problem file.

 

[wilywombat]

Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58
I cannot, personally, think of any task, that is best served by a total lack of a fancy GUI, than that of drive de-fragmenting.
Even if I decide to run a 3rd party app to provide better functionality, I invariably run the task in the background and set to hide, the presence of a GUI for this type of task will likely double, (or more), the application memory footprint.


Perhaps having a choice would be the best solution. Those that want a GUI may have it. Those that do not, may not.
Also agreed. There's never 100% consensus on anything, so having the choice is best.



There you go...that was my point earlier.we are not given enough choice over our own system installs!!

 

[logicearth]

There you go...that was my point earlier.we are not given enough choice over our own system installs!!

You are givin lots of choices, you just chose not to act on them.

 

[Consequences]

There is already a choice! Third-party developed applications is the alternative choice. If you are so in need to have those pretty little meaningless boxes bouncing around there you are. Microsoft has already documented that they are not going to add such a useless item to the UI. They are trying to make so you never have to think about defragmentation.

I like to think about my system tasks. It's the kind of user that I am. Currently using Auslogic's solution but not just for the colorful boxes even though they are fantastic.

 

[Win7User512]

There is already a choice! Third-party developed applications is the alternative choice. If you are so in need to have those pretty little meaningless boxes bouncing around there you are. Microsoft has already documented that they are not going to add such a useless item to the UI. They are trying to make so you never have to think about defragmentation.

I like to think about my system tasks. It's the kind of user that I am. Currently using Auslogic's solution but not just for the colorful boxes even though they are fantastic.

I use theirs, too. I've read it's better than the built in defrag...but I don't know for sure.

 

[bigseb]

I would like to see Win 8 recognise that we are not all completely unfamiliar with setting up computers and grant us that we may be intelligent enough to actually decide what we want to be loaded onto our system. I think WinMin should be the basic start point and then be allowed to pick and choose from a list of functions and programs to install. Basically similar Linux installations. After all..if we are totally honest, 99% of us don't use probably 80% of the items in Control Panel. Yes, the should be a default option to load all as at present because many people just want the easy way to install/upgrade their systems, but for the more savvy out here, choice would be a fine thing!!

Good point. Don't think it'll ever happen though seeing as how microsoft charges for everything.

 

[pparks1]

I think they learned their lesson with Vista.

At some point, people do have to upgrade hardware if they want to continue running the latest versions of the operating system. Vista was a long jump from Windows XP...and there were quite a number of craptastic computers that were still limping along running XP that people attempted to upgrade to Vista. Vista was that painful stepping block that unfortunately does come about every 7-15 years.

Get rid of the UAC!

I don't think so. Perhaps make it work a bit better, but don't drop it. Dropping it is like going back to XP where problems were rampant. At least with Windows 7 they made it more configurable and you can still disable it...if you choose to do so.