Windows 9

[Vince53]

Folks, I've been following Windows 9, and most of the news about 9 concerns Windows 8. Whatever works poorly on 8 will be improved on 9, and whatever works well on 8 will be continued on 9.

 

[A Guy]

Apparently it will be 100% cloud based. Hence the name...Cloud 9...

A Guy

 

[Vince53]

Apparently it will be 100% cloud based. Hence the name...Cloud 9...

A Guy

Actually, I expect the MS Cloud program to go well, and I think that 9 will be a lot more cloud-oriented. At this point, the cloud programs I've tried have been slow and clumsy, but they are improving.

 

[Vince53]

Some people were discussing Windows 9 on another forum, and someone made a good point: Windows 9 will let you turn off those annoying questions that they keep asking about whether you really want to do something. If Aero is cheesy and outdated, those questions were a dud from the beginning.

 

[Vince53]

It appears that Windows 9 will NOT have a Microsoft anti-virus program, but it will have some AV program. MS announced today that the final version of Windows 8 will include whatever AV their partners want to install. If the AV expires, Windows 8 will keep annoying you with reminders that you need to install Windows Defender. And you will have the option of deleting any AV program you want and installing another.

Why? It costs MS money in technical support when irate customers complain about problems that are caused by viruses, and it costs them money to keep Defender up-to-date. MS will be happy to abandon Windows Defender IF everyone has a good AV program.

 

[FuturDreamz]

It appears that Windows 9 will NOT have a Microsoft anti-virus program, but it will have some AV program. MS announced today that the final version of Windows 8 will include whatever AV their partners want to install. If the AV expires, Windows 8 will keep annoying you with reminders that you need to install Windows Defender. And you will have the option of deleting any AV program you want and installing another.

Why? It costs MS money in technical support when irate customers complain about problems that are caused by viruses, and it costs them money to keep Defender up-to-date. MS will be happy to abandon Windows Defender IF everyone has a good AV program.

Where did you get that? All I've heard was that W8D will reactivate itself if it senses that the system is not being protected.

 

[Kari]

It appears that Windows 9 will NOT have a Microsoft anti-virus program, but it will have some AV program. MS announced today that the final version of Windows 8 will include whatever AV their partners want to install. If the AV expires, Windows 8 will keep annoying you with reminders that you need to install Windows Defender. And you will have the option of deleting any AV program you want and installing another.

Why? It costs MS money in technical support when irate customers complain about problems that are caused by viruses, and it costs them money to keep Defender up-to-date. MS will be happy to abandon Windows Defender IF everyone has a good AV program.

Where did you get that? All I've heard was that W8D will reactivate itself if it senses that the system is not being protected.

Read the thread through. Most of what he says comes from his head, is something he has thought and wants to present it as a fact or something he has "read" or "heard". Only once or twice has he been able to produce some kind of source.

The only thinkable motive for this thread is that he prepares for the future: If in a few years time when Windows 9 is published and one of these wild guesses of his is surprisingly right, he is going to quote it all over internet telling "What did I tell you!", completely forgetting the other 99.7% of his "news from reliable source" that went wrong.

Please do not take this thread and these pseudonews seriously.

Kari

 

[FuturDreamz]

Well I can do that:

Windows 8 is merely a "transitory OS" which secondary (after tablets) purpose is to encourage developers to port their programs to Metro Runtime, which completely separates the applications from the OS core. Then, in Windows 9 or 10, Microsoft is free to take out the NT Kernal and decades of bloated legacy spaghetti code; And replace it with a brand new microkernel based off of the latest technologies. That would make Windows incredibly stable and secure. You will be able to install extensive upgrades and patches without rebooting, and it would be incredibly hard for malicious or malformed code to affect the system.

 

[M1GU31]

Apparently it will be 100% cloud based. Hence the name...Cloud 9...

A Guy

Everything?What if you got like big programs like games that are like 10gbs!? My slow internet is going to take forever to upload stuff! So is it like i'm not going to have my os installed on my machine but will be in like some type of virtual machine? I feel lost lol

 

[FuturDreamz]

Apparently it will be 100% cloud based. Hence the name...Cloud 9...

A Guy

Everything?What if you got like big programs like games that are like 10gbs!? My slow internet is going to take forever to upload stuff! So is it like i'm not going to have my os installed on my machine but will be in like some type of virtual machine? I feel lost lol

Microsoft is being heavily funded by Big Data (Comcast, Verizon, etc) who want to force you to upgrade to a better plan (or move so you're in their coverage area)

 

[Vince53]

Although I expect that Windows 9 will be more cloud-oriented than 8, it won't be totally cloud-oriented. People want to be able to work offline and to use legacy software not available on the cloud.

Every cloud OS I've tried so far (some are n longer available) are slow and difficult to figure out. But I have saved some valuable documents on them. Some offer photo-sharing, but they're difficult to work with. But as computers continue to become more powerful and cloud technology improves, we'll benefit by having cloud OSes.

 

[Lantz]

Microsoft will end up going the way of Call of Duty, releasing something new every 2 or 3 years isn't long enough. You have to make people wait and beg for something new, then release it. If you ask me I think that's why they kept Vista going for so long was because the more it sucked the more people would buy Windows 7 hoping it would be better...

 

[Vince53]

I've recently read two blogs stating that Win 8 will be a "fill-in" between 7 and 9. Both authors considered 8 to be another vista.

The failure of Vista, however, was that most hardware couldn't run it, even hardware that met the requirements. Computers that had been built from the ground up for XP ususally couldn't handle Vista. But Win 7 computers usually handle Win 8's beta versions very well. And while it was hard to get around Vista's failures, using 8's traditional desktop solves most of its problems.

No, 8's biggest problem will be that many people will see no need to upgrade from 7. It is 8's ability to use mobile devices that will make it a success.

 

[Vince53]

Here's a strange point from another forum: Windows 9 will boost the popularity of Linux.

No, not because people will abandon Windows in favor of Linux (They say that for every new version of Windows). It's because Win 9 will run a virtual machine so well that it will be easy for people to install Linux. The author felt that MS isn't afraid of Linux (which is used on about 1% of the world's computers). If buying Windows 9 is the easiest way to run Linux, MS has no complaint.

 

[FuturDreamz]

Here's a strange point from another forum: Windows 9 will boost the popularity of Linux.

No, not because people will abandon Windows in favor of Linux (They say that for every new version of Windows). It's because Win 9 will run a virtual machine so well that it will be easy for people to install Linux. The author felt that MS isn't afraid of Linux (which is used on about 1% of the world's computers). If buying Windows 9 is the easiest way to run Linux, MS has no complaint.

I can't see it getting much easier than just running VirtualBox or something. Personally I can't see what difference it would make, because the general public would ignore it, unless there's a big button with Linux Mint preconfigured.

 

[Vince53]

Now that MS is making its own tablet computer, how will this affect Windows 9? Apple has successfully blended its hardware and software development (You can only run Apple on an Apple computer), while MS has successfully let competing companies develop Windows computers. Both strategies had worked, but now Apple is WAY ahead in the tablet and mobile markets.

MS might abandon its own hardware if the computer builders come up with something better than what Apple has. But if they don't, you can expect Windows 9 to come out on MS-built computers

 

[Vince53]

Some phonies are easy to spot. A blogger claims that his cousin works for MS (and is giving out all kinds of technological secrets). He claims that MS already has a working version of Win 9, but that's no secret. They take Win 8 and add a new feature to see how it goes.

His claim that Internet Explorer 11 is completed is ridiculous. What would IE11 function on?

 

[solarmystic]

Windows 9 :-

The performance benefits of Windows 8 without that obnoxious Metro obscenity splashed all over the place.

Windows 9 = Windows 8 :- Desktops and Laptops Edition With Proper Mouse and Keyboard Support

I can dream, can't I?

 

[Vince53]

Windows 9 :-

The performance benefits of Windows 8 without that obnoxious Metro obscenity splashed all over the place.

Windows 9 = Windows 8 :- Desktops and Laptops Edition With Proper Mouse and Keyboard Support

I can dream, can't I?

Courage, Solarmystic. Years ago, we used touchscreen computers at the paper mill, and they all had a mouse and keyboard. Either method worked fine. I am using the Windows 8 Preview Edition and my mouse and keyboard work fine. In fact, if you are using Windows 7, it IS a touchscreen OS, and yet your keyboard and mouse are working fine.

 

[Vince53]

A tech writer suggests that Windows 7 might be the last successful computer migration. Since MS will support 7 until 2020, and Win 7 does what businesses want, there is no need to EVER upgrade. With XP still 2% ahead of 7 in popularity, it can be shown that companies are doing well at keeping old machines running far longer than expected.

When the XP machines eventually wear out, they will be replaced with new Win 7 machines that could last for a decade.

But there's a flaw in the author's logic. Win 8 costs less than Win 7, runs faster, and is more secure. If MS brings the cost of New OSes down, while raising the prices of old systems, they could still get the migration they want.