Windows Azure: The Cloud Is Inevitable

[Grimmjow]

ISP says: We have technical difficulties in the moment, you can't connect on your "Cloud OS", please stand by...and is happening right when you have all this work to do, that can cost your job... And you can't do anything about it, 'couse you were working with a web based apps, that you don't have at home of course...Or, we are sorry to tell you, but your financial data has been stolen... Or even worse, nobody will tell you until is too late...Or, hey buddy, I've just seen you and your wife on a website, I didn't know that you were in that (someone was just playing (p-shoping) with random stolen pics, just because they can, you know, for the "lulz")...Or....

 

[HammerHead]

Cloud?

I won't participate. I wouldn't become involved in that any more than I would post my personal info on Facebook or some other so called social network. I prefer real friends as compared to ones that I have no idea who they are or what their lifestyle etc. is really like. I would compare that concept to the "reality" shows that you hear about. What could be further from reality than TV reality? If MS forsakes the computing style that we are now using, there will be other options. There is always more options.

 

[Dr Shambles]

At the end of the day if these companys want to make this scenario happen, no one, or no collective group or company is really going to stop them.

 

[mr pc]

It will be a great excuse for school

"The Cloud ate my homework!"

People may not be able to stop them, but we can stop.

If the internet cannot be kept safe now - how the hell will it be safe when everyone needs it for common computing? There will be more liability resting on the shoulders of ISPs, OS providers, software manufacturers, data centers. How often would people be forced to upgrade their PC to accommodate the relentless updates the cloud will impose?

This could stimulate development in new operating systems and lower the price of hardware that is not necessary for the cloud.

 

[Lordbob75]

The answer is, of course, Linux.

~Lordbob

 

[Grimmjow]

We'll see what this kid can come with,
Boy, 8, passes Microsoft IT exam, wants to develop a new OS
just hope it'll not be "Cloud OS"

 

[mickey megabyte]

The first link gives me an 404 error.
...

i think this says it all.

what happens when you can't connect, for whatever reason, to YOUR data?

it's probably inevitable, but we aren't all quite ready for it yet.

 

[grimreaper665]

The answer is, of course, Linux.

~Lordbob

As much as I would tend to agree, even both versions (10.04 and 10.10) Ubuntu distros came with Ubuntu One, which as you might guess, is their cloud computing module. As I have not tried Mint in quite some time now, so I wouldn't know if Ubuntu One made it to the Mint distro or if Clem has stripped it from the install. Since Mint is based on Ubuntu, I can only assume it will be there. I will try Mint again after they make it Debian based rather than Ubuntu.

 

[jimbo45]

Hi there
like all things there's no 100% correct solution.
Some things are perfectly OK for "The Cloud" -- other stuff I'd certainly want to keep on a local drive.

Like Off shoring -- OK providing infrastructure remotely is OK but a lot of remote off shored development is a TOTAL and UTTER mitigated disaster -- since what usually happens is that the actual "real" business users have to virtually code the requirements first as a "technical spec"and then the remote "programming factory" just codes the stuff from the spec without having a clue what the real business functionality actually is. Any changes or modifcations are a NIGHTMARE to manage and the whole exercise doesn't deliver ANYTHING like the cost savings envisaged.

The whole concept of globalisation which essentially includes the Cloud needs to be looked at again VERY carefully.

Some things can work but others are a DISASTER. The days where people could just off shore everything are (thank goodness) finally GONE.

I'm just finishing a project where we've REVERSED the whole outsourcing operation -- stuff now gets developed QUICKER, ON TIME and with much better quality than under the off shored system.

I'm sure this is not an isolated instance either.

Cheers
jimbo

 

[James Colbert]

Looks like Intuit is ahead of the 'Cloud curve', and also demonstrates how The Cloud profiteers intend to bring it into existence 'for the benefit of all':

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James

 

[Lordbob75]

The answer is, of course, Linux.

~Lordbob

As much as I would tend to agree, even both versions (10.04 and 10.10) Ubuntu distros came with Ubuntu One, which as you might guess, is their cloud computing module. As I have not tried Mint in quite some time now, so I wouldn't know if Ubuntu One made it to the Mint distro or if Clem has stripped it from the install. Since Mint is based on Ubuntu, I can only assume it will be there. I will try Mint again after they make it Debian based rather than Ubuntu.

My point being that there will be a non-cloud based Linux OS, even if MS and Apple have already moved over.

~Lordbob

 

[thehappyman]

"Online" Data Transfer will way too slow to make a good OS without new hardware in every city in the country (and in every computer) - Maybe someday !!!! - then we wont need hard drives - just ram

 

[spyknee]

I have not read the article yet, but I will. Just perusing y'alls comments tho.

IMO, its just another mechanism for capitolistic control. Do not get me wrong, I believe in capitolism, just not rampant, unregulated, unchecked, immoral capitolism.

The human race likes to think of itself as the earth's end all to be all. At the individule level we are still animals, stuck in the survival of the fitest mode. The super squirrel nut savers mode is what is the biggest problem this planet has. Modern corporations have no morals, never forget that.

Remember the wealth of the planet is finite, for someone to be a billionaire means someone is going without.

Looks like cloud computing will only benefit those that are selling it. It will be just another yoke for the basic man at large.

Big Brother might be right around the corner!

 

[Dr Shambles]

We'll see what this kid can come with,
Boy, 8, passes Microsoft IT exam, wants to develop a new OS
just hope it'll not be "Cloud OS"

That's awesome.

 

[lehnerus2000]

Agreed

Remember the wealth of the planet is finite, for someone to be a billionaire means someone is going without.

I was arguing with some Right Wing "Knuckleheads" (on another site).
They believe that there are infinite amounts of money and/or resources.
If you aren't a billionaire, its your own fault. :shock:

Looks like cloud computing will only benefit those that are selling it. It will be just another yoke for the basic man at large.

Big Brother might be right around the corner!

The irony is that they are paying "top dollar", to be spied on 24 hours a day.

 

[wilywombat]

Question...In the great days of future computing in the cloud...Hackers will have a field day. The problem for the individual will be WHEN not if the cloud gets hacked and the hacker replaces / modifies records or documents to incriminate that individual. What defence will they have?? The cloud operator will HAVE to deny the hacing otherwise they will be out of business and the innocent individual could end up behind bars....

 

[mr pc]

I guess the cloud operators will need exceptional security or they'll just be absolved of any wrong doing. And if certain cloud operators do lose business then we will see competition and segmented cloud's - thus not REAL cloud computing, just pockets of corporate entities with total control of the data of those who choose to use their cloud.

join the microsoft cloud! join the apple cloud! join the google cloud! etc. etc.

it will be less freedom in personal computing.

 

[wilywombat]

so, storm clouds ahead I guess!! LOL

 

[spyknee]

Just do not buy it. Use the traditional OS till they will no longer support it. More than likely we'll all be dead before it becomes dominant.

Knuckleheads are unfortunately running things. And now that the United States Supreme Court has made it possible for foreign nationals and foreign corporations to secretly influence our political system, things will get worse.

VOTE, vote out the encumbant. Remove the career politicians from office!
Boehner, Reid, Pelosi, and McConnel need to be fired. Over a 100 years of corruption between them.

Yeah I know its spelled with an i.

 

[HJA]

Just doesn't sound very safe to me. With all the data flow how do you protect it?
Cloud computing?? Via the internet???? Wait! That's it! Clouds....In the sky! Internet....The net

AAAAHHHHHH!!!! SKYNET!!!!!! Run for your lives!!!!