Windows Backup and Restore

jcunn25

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Subject: Windows Backup and Restore

I just purchased a USB back up drive. My drive image attempts using Windows Backup and Restore completes up to 99% and then hangs up and tells me that it could not make a shadow image. Error code 0x80780034. The drive has plenty of space and copies other files without difficulty.

Has anyone experienced this and found a solution?
 

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Windows 7 Premium
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My Computer

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Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Service Pack 1 (Build 6.1.7601)
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Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (G0 Kentsfield) LGA775 (FC-LGA6)
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GIGABYTE GA-EP35C-DS3R (Rev. 2.1)
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Dell
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Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Service Pack 1 (Build 6.1.7601)
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (G0 Kentsfield) LGA775 (FC-LGA6)
Motherboard
GIGABYTE GA-EP35C-DS3R (Rev. 2.1)
Memory
Corsair TW3X4G1333C9A 4GB PC-10600 (2x XMS3 2GB)
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ASUS nVIDIA GeForce 560
Sound Card
RealTek ALC885/889A/890
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ChiMei CMV CT-730D 17inch (LCD Monitor)
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1280-1024 60Hertz (Ture Colour 32bit)
Hard Drives
2x Barracuda 7200.10 SATA 3.0Gb/s 160-GB Hard Drive ST3160815AS (AHCI)
PSU
ANTEC 750w Earthwatts
Case
Thermaltake Shark (VA7000SWA ATX) Full Tower
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Front 120mm fan (1400 RPM) /Rear 120mm (1400 RPM) blue LED
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Labtec Media Desktop Y-SAD65
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Razer DeathAdder 3G Infrared Sensor (1800DPI)
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Telstra BigPond Elite Liberty ADSL2+ 24Mbps/256kbps
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See if the Win7 Backup Imaging is functional by using the CMD to image only one drive:

Try running Windows System Image from the command line.

That way, you can select any partition(s) to image, and any location to store the image:

I did it like this:

Open an elevated cmd and type

C:\windows\system32>WBADMIN START BACKUP -BACKUPTARGET:G: -INCLUDE:C: -QUIET

That will make a backup image of C and store it on G.

If you repeat it - or set up a scheduled task - successive backups will be incremental.

Restore from the boot disc as usual - it will restore to the same offset - you can't restore anywhere else - again , as usual with Windows backup.
 
I had a similar problem before and it turned out to be my 100MB system reserved partition that had less than 50MB of space at the time that was the problem. It wasn't my external drive at all. I actually had to mount the 100MB system reserved with a drive letter to see the free space. Then, about 20 minutes later, doing nothing myself...it had more than 50MB free. I tried the backup again and it worked fine.
 

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Self-Built in July 2009
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Windows 7 Ultimate x64
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Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
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Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
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8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
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EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
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Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
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23" Acer x233H
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1920x1080
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Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
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Corsair 620HX modular
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Antec P182
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stock
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ABS M1 Mechanical
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Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
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15/2 cable modem
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Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.
Paragon

Download Seatools and backup your computer like that: | Seagate

Seatools appears to be a diagnostic utility and not a backup program unless I missed

something.

You can get a great back up utility for free. I use it myself, Paragon

You can back up your entire HD. Put it in a safe place, until needed. It would be wise to update, once a week or so



Free Backup Software: Paragon Backup & Recovery 10 Free Edition - Overview

I downloaded Paragon as you suggested and it seems to have completed the backup without a hitch. Thank you Rich for the suggestion.

Jim
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Premium
I had a similar problem before and it turned out to be my 100MB system reserved partition that had less than 50MB of space at the time that was the problem. It wasn't my external drive at all. I actually had to mount the 100MB system reserved with a drive letter to see the free space. Then, about 20 minutes later, doing nothing myself...it had more than 50MB free. I tried the backup again and it worked fine.

There are a whole slew of related problems on the Microsoft W7 forums. It would appear that a lot of backup failures (various error codes and messages) are down to the semi-hidden 100Mb system partition being too small. You don't have to mount it or give it a letter to see it, it will show up on any disk management utility including the one built into Windows 7 Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > Storage - Disk Management where it is called "System Reserved". Although you can't explore it from here.

I believe you could use this utility to resize the System Partition, but I installed a third party utility (EASEUS Partition Master 6.5.2 Home Edition - free download). First shrink the other partition(s) on the same disk to give, say, 300Mb of unallocated space next to the system partition, then expand it to use all the new space.

Try your backup now.

I believe that the root of the problem is that, over time, the system accumulates more and more system restore points (or they get larger, I'm not sure which) until there is not enough spare space on the original 100Mb drive to create the shadow copy. Once this happens the backup fails with one of several error codes and messages. One other proposed solution is to delete your system restore points. This does reportedly solve the problem, but only if you also like tightrope walking in a high wind without a safety net! :eek: .

Why MS wrote their backup utility this way eludes me :rolleyes:. Why, after knowing about it for over a year, haven't they issued a fix?
 
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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
CPU
i7 950
Motherboard
Gigabyte X58A-UD3R
Memory
Corsair 12GB (6x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GeForce GTX460
Sound Card
Creative SB X-Fi
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell U2410 & Eizo FlexScan S2110W
Hard Drives
C: Crucial CT256M225
D:, E: & F: Samsung Spinpoint 1Tb working disks
G: Samsung 2Tb (used for backups)
H: spare 500Gb (old disk from previous PC)
None are partitioned.
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XFX 750W Black Edition
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Silverstone Fortress FT02B-W
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THERMALTAKE FRIO CLP0564 CPU Cooler
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Cherry G80-3000LSMGB
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MS Wireless Laser Mouse 5000
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about 930Mb (fiber to the house)
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Norton
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Firefox, IE, Chrome, Opera
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