Windows XP No IE9 For You!!!!

[Coco15]

Even in XP mode? I only have one software application I had to run in XP mode [e-Sword] and it runs just like it did with XP-Pro, with no noticeable difference.

Yes, even in XP mode. I tried everything to get this one particular application to run better under Win 7 and it just wasn't happening. It just so happens that this one application is the main application that the whole business depends on.

Its not that big of an issue, though. I have my laptop set up in a dual boot (XP and Win 7 x64) configuration and I switch back and forth periodically. I use XP when I'm at work. At home or elsewhere I use Win 7.

By the way, I think Microsoft is making a mistake by not making IE9 available for XP. But I think it may be available for XP at some point. Like I said before, many corporations will still be using XP for years to come and will scream and complain loudly for the better security IE9 will likely provide. MS will probably cave in since a large part of their profits come from the corporate world.

100% correct

 

[Coco15]

Did you know sint isn't a word in the US Dictionary????

 

[z3r010]

WFT has that to do with the price of carrots

 

[Coco15]

WFT has that to do with the price of carrots

No. It was in a thread same as the word ain't

 

[z3r010]

WFT has that to do with the price of carrots

No. It was in a thread same as the word ain't

I wouldn't go around this site correcting peoples spelling or grammar, I love to torture grammar Nazi's

 

[CarlTR6]

If Vista is crashing then it's dues to crappy hardware, I've installed it on 100's of PC's in the home and enterprise environments (this gives me a little more room to talk than you) and it's a nice stable OS on decent hardware that's only fault was bad press and too low minimum spec requirements.

Well stated. Vista was a victim of poor marketing strategy.

XP was a really good OS - in its day. Even though it is obsolete, it going to be around for a while yet due to legacy programs. In the business world (to include government), there are many specialized and custom software programs tailored to very specific needs. There is no off the shelf replacement that will simply transfer the data to a new program.

This means the business will have to contract a software group to write a new program based on to compatible with Seven. That takes time and money - and then the time and money to convert once the software is on line. Eventually, it will have to be done and will be done. But it will not happen quickly.

 

[Vertex]

Well Windows XP sound so cool and sophisticated back when it was new. And now that it is old, it sounds ancient and Micro$oft seems to be doing what they can to make more users switch from XP to Vista and Windows 7.

 

[darkdisturbed]

I got the impression from reading the announcement that they were talking about the full product as well as the betas. Maybe it's just the beta release that they're talking about.

By the way, I think Microsoft is making a mistake by not making IE9 available for XP. But I think it may be available for XP at some point. Like I said before, many corporations will still be using XP for years to come and will scream and complain loudly for the better security IE9 will likely provide. MS will probably cave in since a large part of their profits come from the corporate world.

Oh for sure. No doubt that this will happen. Just not now. When the full version is done.

 

[MadMaxData]

By the way, I think Microsoft is making a mistake by not making IE9 available for XP.

I agree. Typical strong-arm Microsoft tactics. If you own a copy of a Microsoft OS, you should be able to run the latest IE browser version. Any other way just doesn't make sense. It's a money thing, and that's all.

 

[MadMaxData]

I wouldn't go around this site correcting peoples spelling or grammar, I love to torture grammar Nazi's

Amen! Me too.

 

[z3r010]

Mainstream support ends on the 14th April this year, why should MS release a new browser for an obsolete OS.

Should they still be providing it for 95/98/me NT/2000?

 

[MadMaxData]

This means the business will have to contract a software group to write a new program based on to compatible with Seven. That takes time and money - and then the time and money to convert once the software is on line. Eventually, it will have to be done and will be done. But it will not happen quickly.

I think Microsoft should give small businesses a break, and especially in these trying economic times we are in. I'm not sure how they would decide the criteria for such a thing, but they should look into it. On the other hand, the regular home user that has been running XP since it's inception has gotten their 2-3 hundred dollars worth out of their XP CD. Wouldn't you say?

 

[MadMaxData]

Mainstream support ends on the 14th April this year, why should MS release a new browser for an obsolete OS.

Should they still be providing it for 95/98/me NT/2000?

For IE only? Yep!

 

[Kari]

The last three decades, the PC era, we've seen the technology advance in such a speed nobody could have thought about that. My first IBM PC had about 1/11,000th of RAM my computer has today (384 Kilos vs. 4 Gigs), my first hard disk was about 1/260,000th of what my desktop has now (10 Megs vs. 2.5 Teras).

XP has dominated the OS market about one third of PC era. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see the correlation: an OS has to change, too, when technological development brings us to completely new level of possibilities.

About Vista:
I just joined Vista Forums a few days ago. Another member, welcoming me, asked what took me so long to join. My answer:

Thanks, Martee. I guess I have never had any serious issues with Vista, so I had no need to ask help.

I really belong to that minority who actually liked Vista.

When we decided to go for Vista in 2007, we only had 6 computers at the office. We installed Vista Ultimate to 5 of them, without a glitch. Two of those computers still exist, now in-place upgraded to Seven. Without a problem.

I have never had a single problem to install Vista (or to in-place upgrade to Seven) that has been Vista's fault. I've had my share of installation problems but they have always been because of non-working third party devices or drivers etc.

A key to avoid problems in computing is to know what you are doing and to prepare.

Just my 2 Euro-cents...

Kari

 

[CarlTR6]

On the other hand, the regular home user that has been running XP since it's inception has gotten their 2-3 hundred dollars worth out of their XP CD. Wouldn't you say?

Most definitely. I know I have.

 

[stormy13]

Why the crying over no IE9 for XP? How much crying is there going to be when that sort thing starts happening with other software, which has already started to happen.

 

[Riho]

HALLEELUUJAAAHH
Internet Explorer 9 will not run on Windows XP

Microsoft's new browser, Internet Explorer 9 (IE9), will not run on Windows XP, now or when the software eventually ships, the company confirmed Tuesday.

The move makes Microsoft the first major browser developer to drop support for XP, the world's most popular operating system, in a future release.

Although Microsoft excluded Windows XP from the list for the IE9 developer preview, it sidestepped the question about which versions of Windows the final browser would support. In an IE9 FAQ, for example, Microsoft responded, "It's too early to talk about features of the Internet Explorer 9 Beta" to the query, "Will Internet Explorer 9 run on Windows XP?"

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That caused some users to demand a straight answer. "Please tell whether the final version will run on Windows XP SP3 or not," said someone identified as "eXPerience" in a comment to a blog post by Dean Hachamovich , Microsoft's general manager for the IE team. "If not, please be clear about it. Really, enough is enough of keeping users in the lurch about Windows XP support."

Others bashed Microsoft on the assumption that IE9 would never run on XP. "Dropping Windows XP support is one of the worst decisions ever taken by [the] IE team, probably even worse than disbanding the IE team back in the IE6 days," claimed an anonymous commenter.

Microsoft had offered up broad hints that IE9 was not in Windows XP's future, however. Tuesday, a company spokeswoman said the new browser needs a "modern operating system," a phrase that hasn't been paired with Window XP for years. "Internet Explorer 9 requires the modern graphics and security underpinnings that have come since 2001," she added, clearly referring to XP, which appeared that year.

Windows XP's inability to run the Platform Preview or the final browser stems from, IE9's graphics hardware acceleration , which relies on the Direct2D and DirectWrite DirectX APIs (applications programming interfaces). Support for those APIs is built into Windows 7 , and was added to Vista and Windows Server 2008 last October, but cannot be extended to Windows XP.

Some users worried that by halting browser development for Windows XP, Microsoft would repeat a current problem, getting customers to ditch IE6 for a newer version. "Those who choose to stay with XP will be forced to [then] stay forever on IE8, which will become the new IE6," said a user named Danny Gibbons in a comment on Hachamovich's blog

 

[Barman58]

The major issue here with compatibility is that to make IE9 work with XP is a major undertaking, that will lead to a compatible version of this browser being less than It could be from the user point of view.

There were many changes from the XP way of working at a system level, with vista. Vista was regarded as a bloated OS partly because of Microsoft working to retain as much backwards compatibility with XP as possible.

With win7 Microsoft has taken a positive decision to provide XP compatibility by the use of XPMode, rather than Bloat the OS.

With the extension of the working life of XP Microsoft has gone way beyond the norm for an OS or any other software, (have you tried to use a creative sound card or older scanner in a new OS :sarc.

Some corporate users will possibly retain XP after 2014, but will do this knowing the potential problems, that this will cause. This will also be confined, in the main, to stand alone specialist systems, as you see today with the embedded copies of windows 95 still in use in Point of sale terminals.

Quite a few corporate IT departments have not even upgraded to IE7 yet! They have their reasons and provide their own support.

Any XP application that does not use programming loopholes but follows the SDK should, (and experience is proving does), run under win7.

If you want IE9 to compete in the market place it has to be the best it can be, XP compatibility will prevent this

 

[MadMaxData]

HALLEELUUJAAAHH
Internet Explorer 9 will not run on Windows XP

I'm confused. Why would anyone actually be gleeful that IE9 won't run on XP?

 

[MadMaxData]

If you want IE9 to compete in the market place it has to be the best it can be, XP compatibility will prevent this

They could always make a patch available.