Windows XP: The Microsoft OS That Just Won't Die

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Phasing out an old operating system is nothing new for Microsoft, but Windows XP is unique in that it may be too good to die. This week, Dell announced it will offer systems with the aging Windows XP for a surcharge of $150 over the newer Windows Vista—this only five months after it stopped offering XP on its Inspiron consumer desktop and laptop PCs.
The deadline for Windows XP downgrades has been pushed back twice now, remaining in effect until July 31, 2009—a strong indication that enough users want to stay with the aging XP rather than give Vista a chance.
Some of you might be thinking why im a talking about Xp in a W7 forum
because of my favorite line of the whole article....


"Sinofsky [Windows senior VP Steven Sinofsky] is pretty clear about how his process works. Windows 7 code won't ship until it's ready."
Windows XP: The Microsoft OS That Just Won't Die


might it be a success???
only time can tell...
apart from these builds (which are incredible) i believe if MS continues along this path they will have a solid OS...
 
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wished it worked in 7, SUSE for that matter though
I think W7 will be a success unless MS throws a wrench in the works. I agree that they should be pushing Vista instead of penalizing XP. If I was buying a comp and didn't want Vista I'd be teed off to have to pay another 150 for an older OS. Seems all that will do is make things worse for MS, not better. Their actions make it appear that they don't like Vista either. They should do a lot more to show that it is a good OS.

Gary
 

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I hope that Windows 7 is released "when it's ready" and not, like was the case with Vista, rushed out the door with all kinds of "bits" missing.
So far it appears that they are on the right track. Personally I like Vista, but it is a bit of a resource hog, and they seem to be getting away from that in 7.
 

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Could the $150 downgrade just be a case of Dell jumping on the general Anti Vista FUD bandwagon and using it to make a bit of money, and get rid of it's old stock of XP disks :zip:

or is that me being cynical :devil:
 

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Could the $150 downgrade just be a case of Dell jumping on the general Anti Vista FUD bandwagon and using it to make a bit of money, and get rid of it's old stock of XP disks :zip:

or is that me being cynical :devil:

I'm not too impressed with Dell, so it wouldn't take much to convince me.

Gary
 

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windows XP is a GREAT OS !!!, it will go down in history as one of the best. ;)

but its time time to move on, i really hope all those vista hating XP dinosaurs don't see W7 as a vista refresh b/c the ignorance will start all over again...

thousands put off by the fact that W7 ''is like vista'' when these ppl haven't even tried vista, they just jump on the hatred bandwagon..:(

now M$ have a battle to move W7 away from anything ''vista'' to grab back that huge chunk of the market which currently sit on the fence...

IMO



:)SK
 

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its a continual ''work in progress''....
Could the $150 downgrade just be a case of Dell jumping on the general Anti Vista FUD bandwagon and using it to make a bit of money, and get rid of it's old stock of XP disks :zip:

or is that me being cynical :devil:

yes its just you...:p

windows XP is a GREAT OS !!!, it will go down in history as one of the best. ;)

but its time time to move on, i really hope all those vista hating XP dinosaurs don't see W7 as a vista refresh b/c the ignorance will start all over again...

thousands put off by the fact that W7 ''is like vista'' when these ppl haven't even tried vista, they just jump on the hatred bandwagon..:(

now M$ have a battle to move W7 away from anything ''vista'' to grab back that huge chunk of the market which currently sit on the fence...

IMO



:)SK

i hope you are reffering to WinXp SP2 right???
i remember when everyone started bashing WinXP in the beginig (cuz it was the cool thing to do yet everyone had some form of windows xp at home or work) and now look at the people that dont want to let go...
but i love MS's Adverts on their website...
theres this one who knows nothing of an OS (or what it is) works....
and she is saying how smart vista is....
sorry but i was LMAOing all the time (sorry couldnt help...:o)
if MS could made usuable for girl like that then everything is possible...;):geek:
as long as its stable of course and not memory demanding...:p
i already know vista is way more secure than xp so i wont go there...;)
 

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Hey DA,

It's not just me - the lady who brought the cake agreed :p
 

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What Cake...

Hey DA,

It's not just me - the lady who brought the cake agreed :p

LMAO
+1

as to this cake you are referring to is physical or metaphysical...???
lol


as to the dell xp issue i guess i was one of the lucky ones to get it for free..
(as i was donated a Dell Machine that was burned out (litteraly...lol) and on the inside had a Xp disc...
(regular dell oem disc (no bloat no nothing SP2 too)...

i just think that dell sees a potential market to make money out of loyal xp fans (with the emphasis on loyal)

or they have invested so much in vista that they would rather see the warehouse stockpile with Vista Comps go (with Vista for no extra charge) than having to rip out vista and having to use their more time to bring out drivers for both XP and Vista....
 

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Hi Da

as to this cake you are referring to is physical or metaphysical...???

No I'm sure it was chocolate :p Mmmmmmmmm

As for Dell they haven't been so successful in the business by ignoring a business opportunity ;)
 

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Hi Da



No I'm sure it was chocolate :p Mmmmmmmmm

As for Dell they haven't been so successful in the business by ignoring a business opportunity ;)

mY fAvOrITE....lol

yes and i agree but this can also mean to any OEM company...
hp has it so that you have to cough up for vista business or Ultimate (which i believe was 150 more than home premium)
so this is nothing new...
at least for hp you get the option for getting two OS's(you just have to be eligible...lol
the little fine print..lol)
 

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My first computer was a Dell. Back in 95. Had played with them before that, but never owned one. Had to use support a couple times and they were very helpful and knowlegable. Now support is not so great. When a company builds itself on something and then drops the ball on that thing, they start the long slide to oblivion. Same as the US auto industry. Built on a reputation of solid dependability. Now I help more people with new rigs broken down on the side of the road than old ones. IMO they started living on the reputation they worked so hard to build while not bothering to meet that expectation and that's a big part of why Toyota is now #1. It's much harder and more expensive to get a good reputation back than to maintain it in the first place.

Gary
 

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MX Revolution
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Wacom Intuos 2 Graphics Tablet
Experience Index=5.5
Dell is on a huge downward slide though with all their latest antics. Maybe if we are lucky they won't even be around by the time win7 comes out. I fully agree the $150 is them just being greedy and jamming their paws in places they don't belong!

HP all the way for laptops, and build your own desktops, damn it!
 
lol have a hp tablet laptop and im in love with it (not the screen though...lol)
other than that it was a great deal.... 1000 for a high range tablet...(at in specs)
 

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At a glance

Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Serv...Turion X2 ultra (oh well came with laptop)/P4...OCZ Dual Channel 4GB kit/ 1gb Dual ChannelHD 3200 graphics /GMA x3100 (yay for intergra...
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Tx2500z Tablet Pc/Homemade Server
OS
Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM)
CPU
Turion X2 ultra (oh well came with laptop)/P4 @3.2 (yes P4)
Motherboard
IDK HP Motherboard / Intel DG965SS
Memory
OCZ Dual Channel 4GB kit/ 1gb Dual Channel
Graphics Card(s)
HD 3200 graphics /GMA x3100 (yay for intergrated!!)
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio(mic working, well sort of)/Siig IC-70012
Monitor(s) Displays
built-in Hp 12" laptop screen/ Acer 19"
Screen Resolution
1280x800 /1440x900
Cooling
All Air Cooled
Mouse
Logi MX Rev. /MS Wheel Optical 1.1A /Logitech Optical Mouse
Internet Speed
College baby but its still routed through vpn to 1536k...
Other Info
love my wacom pen and pressure sensitivity...
wished it worked in 7, SUSE for that matter though
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