Winpatrol and UAC

eddyad37

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Once again the dreaded UAC problem. I can't stop WinPatrolEx always asks for permission to run unless I turn off UAC. As UAC seems to be global I, how do I get rid of the UAC 'nag' for a specific program? Clearly its whole object is defeated if I turn it off globally so is it really any use?.
I've told both Winpatrolex and Winpatrol to Run as Administrator but still the message that "WinPatrolEx.exe must exist in the same folder as Winpatrol.exe and allowed to run" so what more must I do to allow WinpatrolEx to run?
Totally baffled!
Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks
 

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Hi, eddyad37.

You don't have your System Specs filled in. I believe this problem was limited to 64-bit versions but should have been resolved with WinPatrol 19.3.2010.5. Direct download link if you haven't updated yet: Download WinPatrol 19.3.2010.5.

In the event you have the most recent version of WinPatrol and you are seeing the UAC prompt at startup, somehow there are two copies of WinPatrol trying to start. Bill Pytlovany indicated that this may have occurred when 19.0 was installed and should have been fixed with the new build.

Following is a quick fix that should resolve the issue:

  • Open up the main WinPatrol tabbed Interface.
  • Click on the Options tab.
  • You should see a check box that says, “Automatically run WinPatrol when computer starts”
  • Just Unclick the box in front of this message.
  • Now click it again so the check box remains.

This action will remove the multiple copies of WinPatrol in the Start up List and initialize the correct start up setting.

As provided by Bill:

For those interested...
WinPatrol is split into two components to provide the best possible performance.

WinPatrol.exe is the small component which monitors for changes on your system. This is the program which displays the little Scotty in the taskbar and remains running in the background at all times. This component doesn't require UAC access and should not bring up the UAC prompt.

When you double click on the little Scotty icon it launches our main tabbed interface or WinPatrol Explorer(WinPatrolEx.exe). The program provides the main interface and allows you to review all your various programs. This component will bring up the UAC prompt because it's the power house that is allowed to change your system configuration values. The tabbed interface is also launched if WinPatrol.exe is launched a 2nd time. When you click on "Close", this program is removed from memory so only the smallest required portion of WinPatrol is running.
Please let me know if this solved the problem.
 

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I'm afraid it didn't solve the problem, on my W7 32-bit installation nor on my neighbour's W7 64-bit installation. We both have v19.3.2010.5.
I tend to think UAC is a waste of time anyway. It also presents problems in some network sharing situations (a USB drive connected to a router). So I think I'll just turn it off and rely on my common sense not to install junk.
I may try one more thing - completely uninstall WinPatrol and start again, although my neighbour had never had it when I installed it for him a week ago on his new laptop.
Thank you for your help and the other numerous threads about UAC.
 

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Be aware that if you turn UAC off, then IE runs in Protected Mode: Off
 

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You could turn UAC off and use Opera, Firefox etc.
 

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I'm afraid it didn't solve the problem, on my W7 32-bit installation nor on my neighbour's W7 64-bit installation. We both have v19.3.2010.5.
I tend to think UAC is a waste of time anyway. It also presents problems in some network sharing situations (a USB drive connected to a router). So I think I'll just turn it off and rely on my common sense not to install junk.
I may try one more thing - completely uninstall WinPatrol and start again, although my neighbour had never had it when I installed it for him a week ago on his new laptop.
Thank you for your help and the other numerous threads about UAC.

Turning off UAC won't help you with a drive-by. WinPatrol will help, but unless you have WinPatrol PLUS, Scotty doesn't patrol in real-time.

However, I just realized that you wrote, "I can't stop WinPatrolEx always asks for permission to run unless I turn off UAC". If you mean by that when you launch WinPatrol from the system tray, that is expected behavior. WinPatrol is accessing restricted system files. Thus approval is necessary.
 
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Thanks all. I can understand now why WinPatrolEx has the problem. It seems to be a bit of poor design in UAC that it can't be turned off by program instead of just globally. Perhaps Windows 8...
 

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Hi,

Yes, maybe in Windows 8....

FYI - when you open up MBAM from the system tray its eaxctly the same behaviour : UAC does the check, and you need to confirm.
 

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Windows 10 Pro x64 ; Xubuntu x64
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Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz O/C'ed to 4.0GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13
Memory
16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24)
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB
Sound Card
Realtek Integrated
Monitor(s) Displays
Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS
Screen Resolution
1920*1080 and 1920*1080
Hard Drives
1*Samsung 840 EVO 120GB SSD;
1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
2*Samsung F3 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID0;
1*Samsung F1 SpinPoint 1TB;
2*Western Digital 1TB External USB 3.0
1*Western Digital 500GB External USB 3.0
1*Seagate 500GB External USB 2.0
PSU
Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W
Case
Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z
Cooling
Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans
Keyboard
Logitech G110
Mouse
Logitech MX518
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