Wireless haywire!

tomween1

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I have several computers using XP and 3 using 7. On my XP drive I can view all computers on my home group but in Windows 7 I see my computer and one other.

In the "Network and Sharing Center" I click see full map to the far right. It shows my computer connected to the router and then to the Internet. Until earlier today I saw two other computers on my home network but nest to each of these computers an arrow was pointing to a big ?. I tried selecting fix problem on each of the other computers i goes through the motions and says there is a problem w/ the network???

OK so how do I start from scratch and also see the XP computers all in one group? We all want to be able to share files. I also want to be able to control the other desktops.

I have worked on this for several days and seem to get further and further away from a solution. I think I need to start from the beginning all over again, but I want to do it right and see everything.

Thanks in advance
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self Built
OS
Windows 7 Premium, SP1 64-Bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte ga-990xa-ud3
Memory
Kingston HyperX Blu 8GB (2x 4GB) DDR3-1333MHz
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon HD 6790 Double D
Monitor(s) Displays
LG 26LV2500
Screen Resolution
1366 X 768
Hard Drives
WD 500gb
WD 750gb
WD My Book 1tb external BU Drive
PSU
A-Power AK 900W
Case
CM COSMOS S Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless Wave MK550
Mouse
Dito
Do you have XP SP3? Is it XP Home or Pro? Did you install LLTD on your XP machines? Are all computers part of the same workgroup? Do you have any third party firewalls installed on any of the computers?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 15 L502x
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
CPU
Core i7-2670QM
Memory
8GB DDR3 PC3-10600
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD Graphics 3000 + GeForce GT 540M
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
1TB 5400RPM Seagate
I have several computers using XP and 3 using 7. On my XP drive I can view all computers on my home group but in Windows 7 I see my computer and one other.

In the "Network and Sharing Center" I click see full map to the far right. It shows my computer connected to the router and then to the Internet. Until earlier today I saw two other computers on my home network but nest to each of these computers an arrow was pointing to a big ?. I tried selecting fix problem on each of the other computers i goes through the motions and says there is a problem w/ the network???

OK so how do I start from scratch and also see the XP computers all in one group? We all want to be able to share files. I also want to be able to control the other desktops.

I have worked on this for several days and seem to get further and further away from a solution. I think I need to start from the beginning all over again, but I want to do it right and see everything.

Thanks in advance

Before you start changing anything, first disable all firewalls on all computers.
In 99% of the cases it is the culprit for not showing all computers.

When after doing that, it works ok, examine the firewall rules closely to find out which rule is blocking the view.

Work with one enabled firewall at a time.

Good luck
 

My Computer

OS
Win7 Build 7600 x86
CPU
Pentium II 300MHz
Motherboard
Asus
Memory
32mb EDO RAM
Graphics Card(s)
Diamond Viper
Sound Card
Soundblaster 16
Monitor(s) Displays
14" AOC CRT 16K color
Screen Resolution
800x600
Hard Drives
300mb Quantum fireball
PSU
110 Watts
Cooling
Passive
Keyboard
Trust Ergonomic
Mouse
Generic
Internet Speed
256K u 128K d
I recommend removing firewall applications instead of merely disabling them. I've run into quite a few situations where the disabled firewall still caused network problems, and the problems disappeared only after the applications were removed.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 15 L502x
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
CPU
Core i7-2670QM
Memory
8GB DDR3 PC3-10600
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD Graphics 3000 + GeForce GT 540M
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
1TB 5400RPM Seagate
I recommend removing firewall applications instead of merely disabling them. I've run into quite a few situations where the disabled firewall still caused network problems, and the problems disappeared only after the applications were removed.

True, that would be second step if disabling doesn't work.

Thanks for the addition.

Greetz
 

My Computer

OS
Win7 Build 7600 x86
CPU
Pentium II 300MHz
Motherboard
Asus
Memory
32mb EDO RAM
Graphics Card(s)
Diamond Viper
Sound Card
Soundblaster 16
Monitor(s) Displays
14" AOC CRT 16K color
Screen Resolution
800x600
Hard Drives
300mb Quantum fireball
PSU
110 Watts
Cooling
Passive
Keyboard
Trust Ergonomic
Mouse
Generic
Internet Speed
256K u 128K d
"Do you have XP SP3? Is it XP Home or Pro? Did you install LLTD on your XP machines? Are all of the same workgroup? Do you have any third party firewalls installed on any of the computers?"

No to sp3. XP Home. No LLTD. All computers are on same workgroupe and all are ciewable when using XP On my first boot disk. All have the same firewall installed and all have been configured.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self Built
OS
Windows 7 Premium, SP1 64-Bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte ga-990xa-ud3
Memory
Kingston HyperX Blu 8GB (2x 4GB) DDR3-1333MHz
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon HD 6790 Double D
Monitor(s) Displays
LG 26LV2500
Screen Resolution
1366 X 768
Hard Drives
WD 500gb
WD 750gb
WD My Book 1tb external BU Drive
PSU
A-Power AK 900W
Case
CM COSMOS S Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless Wave MK550
Mouse
Dito
"Do you have XP SP3? Is it XP Home or Pro? Did you install LLTD on your XP machines? Are all of the same workgroup? Do you have any third party firewalls installed on any of the computers?"

No to sp3. XP Home. No LLTD. All computers are on same workgroupe and all are ciewable when using XP On my first boot disk. All have the same firewall installed and all have been configured.

What firewall is that?

And have you tried disabling them all?
Or even uninstalling them?

I just solved a guys problem who's wireless card seemed to be broken.

Turned out it was Zonealarm.

After uninstall of ZA, all was fine.

So it goes to show that with network problems the first thing to take out of the equation is the firewalls.
 

My Computer

OS
Win7 Build 7600 x86
CPU
Pentium II 300MHz
Motherboard
Asus
Memory
32mb EDO RAM
Graphics Card(s)
Diamond Viper
Sound Card
Soundblaster 16
Monitor(s) Displays
14" AOC CRT 16K color
Screen Resolution
800x600
Hard Drives
300mb Quantum fireball
PSU
110 Watts
Cooling
Passive
Keyboard
Trust Ergonomic
Mouse
Generic
Internet Speed
256K u 128K d
In order for the network map to function with XP and Vista/7, you need to install LLTD. I always recommend installing it when mixing XP and Vista/7 machines. If you can't see XP machines from Vista/7 machines, install LLTD. You should also install SP3.

Remove your third party firewall software. If things start working, your firewall software is the culprit.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 15 L502x
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
CPU
Core i7-2670QM
Memory
8GB DDR3 PC3-10600
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD Graphics 3000 + GeForce GT 540M
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
1TB 5400RPM Seagate
In order for the network map to function with XP and Vista/7, you need to install LLTD. I always recommend installing it when mixing XP and Vista/7 machines. You should also install SP3.

Sorry but all of the above is nonsense.
 

My Computer

OS
Win7 Build 7600 x86
CPU
Pentium II 300MHz
Motherboard
Asus
Memory
32mb EDO RAM
Graphics Card(s)
Diamond Viper
Sound Card
Soundblaster 16
Monitor(s) Displays
14" AOC CRT 16K color
Screen Resolution
800x600
Hard Drives
300mb Quantum fireball
PSU
110 Watts
Cooling
Passive
Keyboard
Trust Ergonomic
Mouse
Generic
Internet Speed
256K u 128K d
Really? You can get the network map to function without LLTD on XP machines? I've never seen that before. You also don't recommend installing SP3 on XP machines? Why is that? Please post your reasons - your reply of "that's nonsense" doesn't really help.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 15 L502x
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
CPU
Core i7-2670QM
Memory
8GB DDR3 PC3-10600
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD Graphics 3000 + GeForce GT 540M
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
1TB 5400RPM Seagate
Really? You can get the network map to function without LLTD on XP machines? I've never seen that before. You also don't recommend installing SP3 on XP machines? Why is that? Please post your reasons - your reply of "that's nonsense" doesn't really help.

Well, it does help since it's unambiguous. :D joke

I don't say I don't recommend SP3, I say it's not necessary for network mapping.

And I say one doesn't need to install anything in particular to share folders between XP, Vista and Win7.
That's why I stated that what you wrote was nonsense.

Didn't mean anything personal with it, I appreciate your help.

I stated unambiguously that the quoted remarks were nonsense, because they were, and the OP needs not to be more confused than he already is. :D

sorry if it came out a bit harsh. :o
 

My Computer

OS
Win7 Build 7600 x86
CPU
Pentium II 300MHz
Motherboard
Asus
Memory
32mb EDO RAM
Graphics Card(s)
Diamond Viper
Sound Card
Soundblaster 16
Monitor(s) Displays
14" AOC CRT 16K color
Screen Resolution
800x600
Hard Drives
300mb Quantum fireball
PSU
110 Watts
Cooling
Passive
Keyboard
Trust Ergonomic
Mouse
Generic
Internet Speed
256K u 128K d
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