Yosemite upgrade stops Macs with aftermarket SSDs from booting

[A Guy]

There’s a new security feature in OS X Yosemite that could render your computer unbootable. If you’ve been using an SSD with Trim support enabled, proceed with caution.

Turning on Trim is a great way to extend the life of SSDs and keep them performing at the peak of their abilities. OS X, however, only supports Trim on Apple-supplied SSDs. If you upgraded the drive at some point, you couldn’t simply switch on Trim and go about your business as usual. Apple’s drivers won’t allow it.

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A Guy

 

[RoasterMen]

Good job Mac you are the most retarded company ever!

 

[Layback Bear]

I'm thinking Apple wants folks to buy their certified by Apple SSD. They have been getting away with controlling hard ware for a long time. Mac people love it that way. They are not capable of making their own choice and decisions.

Don't tell anybody but this system has 2 Intel SSD's and 1 Samsung.
Don't tell Microsoft of my in breading with their operating system.

 

[lehnerus2000]

I hear you

I'm thinking Apple wants folks to buy their certified by Apple SSD. They have been getting away with controlling hard ware for a long time. Mac people love it that way. They are not capable of making their own choice and decisions.

One Mac guy on my Networking course was complaining that he had to chose a location and file name to save files in Windows.

Apparently you should be able to dump an unnamed file somewhere at random and the computer should auto-magically retrieve it without any user input.

Don't get me started on the so-called superior Mac GUI.
I find it strangely unusable (even simple tasks like copying a pathname are a baffling ordeal).

People complain about Linux GUIs but they are superior to Mac GUIs.
The only exceptions (I've tried) are Unity and GNOME3, which copy Mac GUI elements (e.g. disembodied menus).

 

[andrew129260]

Of course, it is apple.

 

[senseless1707]

Seems ridiculous. Typical Apple trying to control their customers.

 

[Layback Bear]

If Microsoft tried doing such a thing they would be in court forever.

 

[Tookeri]

Almost unbelievable. I'm very disappointed with Apple in this case. But I'm still an Apple fan. Luckily I haven't had to switch drive on my iMac yet.

 

[whs]

A typical Apple rip-off. I would never buy anything from them.

It is like those Windows PCs where you cannot run Linux. I had to return a $1200 laptop to Sony because it would not run Linux. I now have the same problem with my Asus Transformer. But that is only a little toy. Those systems just have a retarded BIOS.

 

[pillainp]

I'm just wondering why we are not hearing any accusations of monopolistic behavior regarding this issue.

If this had been MS and Windows, the pet media monkeys would have been screaming by now.

 

[Layback Bear]

The E.U. would have drunk guards and rabid dogs watching the borders with orders to stop all Microsoft product.

With Apple they just stick out a welcome hand and direct them to the welcome buffet.

 

[whs]

I am sure the EU will go after them is someone complains. But they need a trigger. By themselves they do nothing.

 

[Indianatone]

Remember with crApple you are buying into their walled garden. It is not a PC per se but a CrApple appliance you are buying with support as part of the package. You are paying 3 times the price of a basic PC for this service. Some people like this as they don't have to think. I would never give an apple device house room as I do not like the way they as a company operate. Sweat shop workers and $1200 for a 13" laptop with a dual core i5 with 8gb of ram and hardly any storage so you need their add ons with stupid cables that cost serious money. I love it when someone impress me with one and I tell them like it is. It was like B&O TV's 20 years ago had a Thomson / Ferguson ICC Chassis in them yet they cost 3 times as much with no difference in performance of the picture, yes the sound was far better due to 25 wats RMS audio output stage and serious speakers for a TV.

 

[RoasterMen]

Apple makes their customer stupid. It was better around with Steve Jobs

 

[Tookeri]

I'm probably a minority here on this Windows forum with these opinions but personally I think my Mac is worth every cent, and so do all others I know that mainly use it to create music and videos. In that area I think it's outstanding. So I guess I swing both ways

 

[whs]

Depends whether you want a computer or a jukebox.

 

[RoasterMen]

Depends whether you want a computer or a jukebox.

 

[groze]

A typical Apple rip-off. I would never buy anything from them.

It is like those Windows PCs where you cannot run Linux. I had to return a $1200 laptop to Sony because it would not run Linux. I now have the same problem with my Asus Transformer. But that is only a little toy. Those systems just have a retarded BIOS.

That not suppose to happen. According to Microsoft OEM have to have a way to disable secure boot for the end user or can't get a windows 8 sticker contract rules. The reason Microsoft doesn't want to be sued by the U.S. DOJ again. Are you sure it just wasn't the drivers not being available? I tried lot of Linux distros. I found out the ubuntu or its derivatives can work with almost any system. I don't like the Amazon search being installed, so I use Lubuntu and installed xfce4 desktop with wine. However, I did have trouble with xubuntu that includes xfce desktop. Didn't work to well on my system. The only thing thats annoying is whoopsie pops up a lot even with no crashes. Whoopsie is the crash report system for ubuntu and can be uninstalled using apt-get.

Sudo apt-get purge whoopsie
Sudo apt-get autoremove

You will need to do after each update, because it re-installs.

Side note Embedded systems are different, but I don't understand the legalize of those.

 

[Cr00zng]

Remember wit crApple you are buying into their walled garden. It is not a PC per se but a CrApple appliance you are buying with support as part of the package. You are paying 3 times the price of a basic PC for this service. Some people like this as they don't have to think. I would never give an apple device house room as I do not like the way they as a company operate. Sweat shop workers and $1200 for a 13" laptop with a dual core i5 with 8gb of ram and hardly any storage so you need their add ons with stupid cables that cost serious money. I love it when someone impress me with one and I tell them like it is. It was like B&O TV's 20 years ago had a Thomson / Ferguson ICC Chassis in them yet they cost 3 times as much with no difference in performance of the picture, yes the sound was far better due to 25 wats RMS audio output stage and serious speakers for a TV.

There's no equivalent hardware for the MacBook Pro 13" on the Windows laptop side in the $1,500 range. Show me a windows laptop that has 256 GBs PCIe SSD drive and 8 GBs memory in this price range. It's even hard to find laptops with SSD drives let alone PCIe SSD...

The PCIe SSD native performance is great:



Even Windows 8.1 in VMware is fast:



The best you can do on the Windows laptop side is the Samsung Pro:



And don't kid yourself... If the Apple hardware is coming from "sweatshops", then so do all other OEM laptops. There's no OEM that actually builds laptops in the US. At least not at the size of Apple...

In my view, the MacBook is the best hardware for Windows 8.1, even in VMware. It's fast on the PCIe SSD and the native Windows resolution of 3360x2100 is awesome. The battery last much longer than other laptops, even with two OSs running on it. It runs all of the business applications that I need better than any Windows laptop in this price range. The reason the OSX used in my case is for multi-media and to be able to support some of my customers with MACs...

 

[lehnerus2000]

IIRC, OEMs can still sell the computer without the W8 sticker and they can then do whatever they like.