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I have an MSDN windows 7 key on my computer, how long will it last? And if I buy Windows 7 and I activate the key through the change product key would that render it done? Or could I have that as an active backup key?
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I have just read that you get 10 activations with an MSDN key and only one with a genuine windows key you buy for yourself surely you get all the activations you want as the key is for life?
 

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MSDN Keys operate under special rules - which can change from time to time.
MSDN Keys allow 10 simultaneous activations, in contrast to the single activation allowed under Retail rules, but MS reserves the right to terminate the license at any time (although they haven't exercised that right, with the exception of abused keys, so far as I know).
TechNet had similar rights - but they are now subscription licenses, and have to be renewed annually. I don't know if MSDN either have, or are planning on going the same route.
 

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MSDN Keys operate under special rules - which can change from time to time.
MSDN Keys allow 10 simultaneous activations, in contrast to the single activation allowed under Retail rules, but MS reserves the right to terminate the license at any time (although they haven't exercised that right, with the exception of abused keys, so far as I know).
TechNet had similar rights - but they are now subscription licenses, and have to be renewed annually. I don't know if MSDN either have, or are planning on going the same route.
I see so if I buy a genuine Microsoft windows 7 key today, not an MSDN one there is unlimited activations with it correct? It all sounds to good to be true for the price, is there anywhere you can check if the key is genuine? Or do you have to install it first? Also as my MSDN key is all right and genuine will it last me for a lot more years as when I got it, it wasn't the rules you are talking about with always having to have a subscription to them.
 

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An MSDN Key, like a Retail one, has unlimited activations on the same hardware.
Unlike a Retail Key, MSDN licenses are restricted to use in a non-production environment.

It is not possible to buy 'a key' for any version of Windows - you MUST buy the complete package, or you can guarantee that it's counterfeit.

You need to check the License terms that came with your MSDN package for the precise terms, but my understanding is that any Key retrieved before at least July 2012 is perpetual - certainly mine from 2004-ish are still working fine (my subs expired in 2007) :)
The only reason I put that date in, is because it was the cut-off date for TechNet perpetual licenses.

As far as checking the genuine-ness of Keys is concerned:-
The best check is to be certain of your source - do NOT buy on eBay, Craig'sList, or similar flea-markets, as they are almost certainly going to be counterfeits.
Once you get the package, if it's not from an impeccable source, check it before opening for the quality of the packaging, and any typos, etc.
Once you open it, check the Disk(s) and make sure that there are no stickers instead of the imprinted hologram.

As far as the Key is concerned, you could ring the Activation Center to check it - but they will/can only give a yes/no response to whether it is currently blocked or not.
If you post an MGADiag report in the forums here, I or someone can give a more log-term view on the probability of it being genuine (and staying that way!). Unless it shows definite signs of being non-genuine, it's impossible to be 100% certain about it, but having read 20,000 or so reports, I've got pretty good at it :)
 

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An MSDN Key, like a Retail one, has unlimited activations on the same hardware.
Unlike a Retail Key, MSDN licenses are restricted to use in a non-production environment.

It is not possible to buy 'a key' for any version of Windows - you MUST buy the complete package, or you can guarantee that it's counterfeit.

You need to check the License terms that came with your MSDN package for the precise terms, but my understanding is that any Key retrieved before at least July 2012 is perpetual - certainly mine from 2004-ish are still working fine (my subs expired in 2007) :)
The only reason I put that date in, is because it was the cut-off date for TechNet perpetual licenses.

As far as checking the genuine-ness of Keys is concerned:-
The best check is to be certain of your source - do NOT buy on eBay, Craig'sList, or similar flea-markets, as they are almost certainly going to be counterfeits.
Once you get the package, if it's not from an impeccable source, check it before opening for the quality of the packaging, and any typos, etc.
Once you open it, check the Disk(s) and make sure that there are no stickers instead of the imprinted hologram.

As far as the Key is concerned, you could ring the Activation Center to check it - but they will/can only give a yes/no response to whether it is currently blocked or not.
If you post an MGADiag report in the forums here, I or someone can give a more log-term view on the probability of it being genuine (and staying that way!). Unless it shows definite signs of being non-genuine, it's impossible to be 100% certain about it, but having read 20,000 or so reports, I've got pretty good at it :)

Win Pro 7 SP1 32-bit English 1pk DSP OEI DVD (This OEM software is intended for system builders only): Amazon.co.uk: Software Can you tell from that mate?
 

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That's fine - Amazon itself is rock-solid (but the Amazon MarketPlace sellers are not)
Note that it says
Dispatched from and sold by Amazon.
Note also the following....

1) It's an OEM license - which means that It cannot be transferred to another machine under any circumstances. The license lives and dies on the first motherboard on which it is activated (with certain strict exceptions) - see the Amazon notes... http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/feature....rd_t=201&pf_rd_p=132366791&pf_rd_i=B004Q0PSMK
2) There's no support from MS (that what the higher-priced Retail version includes)
3) you can just swap the Key into your current install (assuming it's for Win7Pro) and activate it, with no problems, if you need to.

If you want to be able to move the license to another machine, or upgrade the motherboard on that one, then you'd need a full retail license.
 

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That's fine - Amazon itself is rock-solid (but the Amazon MarketPlace sellers are not)
Note that it says
Dispatched from and sold by Amazon.
Note also the following....

1) It's an OEM license - which means that It cannot be transferred to another machine under any circumstances. The license lives and dies on the first motherboard on which it is activated (with certain strict exceptions)
2) There's no support from MS (that what the higher-priced Retail version includes)
3) you can just swap the Key into your current install (assuming it's for Win7Pro) and activate it, with no problems, if you need to.

If you want to be able to move the license to another machine, or upgrade the motherboard on that one, then you'd need a full retail license.
Thanks I won't be buying what about this one Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 32bit SP1 Full Program & Product Key | eBay he had 10 an hour ago only 1 left.
 

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The eBay link you provided shows a dell OEM windows 7 . Not what you looking for

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OEM Windows 7 Professional 32bit with CoA License Product Key
Item Description:
This item is an [B]Original DELL Branded OEM[/B] Microsoft operating system installation DVD disc containing the full 32bit version of Windows 7 Professional including service pack 1 (SP1). (This is NOT an upgrade version)
The software is new and has never been installed on any computer.
The software is supplied with a genuine and unregistered product key.
The software will install on any PC desktop or laptop/notebook computer which is capable of installing and running 32bit Windows 7. (Please check your system is capable of running 32bit version)
Will install on self/custom built and other non-branded machines.
Will install on new machines or machines that have a new hard drive and/or no operating system.
Boot from CD and follow on screen instructions
Once installed and activated you will be able to receive full updates and support for your operating system
The item comes in sealed sleeve with the CoA sticker attached to front as per the second image in the gallery. Retail packaging is NOT included.
 

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The eBay link you provided shows a dell OEM windows 7 . Not what you looking for

Code:
OEM Windows 7 Professional 32bit with CoA License Product Key
Item Description:
This item is an [B]Original DELL Branded OEM[/B] Microsoft operating system installation DVD disc containing the full 32bit version of Windows 7 Professional including service pack 1 (SP1). (This is NOT an upgrade version)
The software is new and has never been installed on any computer.
The software is supplied with a genuine and unregistered product key.
The software will install on any PC desktop or laptop/notebook computer which is capable of installing and running 32bit Windows 7. (Please check your system is capable of running 32bit version)
Will install on self/custom built and other non-branded machines.
Will install on new machines or machines that have a new hard drive and/or no operating system.
Boot from CD and follow on screen instructions
Once installed and activated you will be able to receive full updates and support for your operating system
The item comes in sealed sleeve with the CoA sticker attached to front as per the second image in the gallery. Retail packaging is NOT included.

Could you please tell me what I am looking for? It's a Dell computer I have and I want a full version of Windows 7 Pro so I can do clean install if needed. Also a key would do but I am wary of that option as they have to open it up to give you the key. I don't need the disc as I have already been caught out on Amazon with this but I got my money back. Basically where is the cheapest safest place to buy this and other Windows products.
Thank you for your patience and guidence in this matter
 

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Please post your MGADiag report - and look in the battery compartment and see if you have a COA sticker of any kind in there.

Please follow this tutorial and post an MGADiag report - then we can see what the problem is.

http://www.sevenforums.com/windows-updates-activation/234159-windows-genuine-activation-issue-posting-instructions.html

Ignore errors produced when clicking on the Copy button - they simply mean that the tool could not create the backup files for some reason. The data is still copied to the clipboard for pasting to your response.

Please also state the Version and Edition of Windows quoted on your COA sticker (if you have one) on the case of your machine (or inside the battery compartment), but do NOT quote the Key on the sticker!
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/howtotell/Hardware.aspx
 

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Please post your MGADiag report - and look in the battery compartment and see if you have a COA sticker of any kind in there.

Please follow this tutorial and post an MGADiag report - then we can see what the problem is.

http://www.sevenforums.com/windows-updates-activation/234159-windows-genuine-activation-issue-posting-instructions.html

Ignore errors produced when clicking on the Copy button - they simply mean that the tool could not create the backup files for some reason. The data is still copied to the clipboard for pasting to your response.

Please also state the Version and Edition of Windows quoted on your COA sticker (if you have one) on the case of your machine (or inside the battery compartment), but do NOT quote the Key on the sticker!
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/howtotell/Hardware.aspx
It's a Dell Inspiron 1545 I am just going to stick with my msdn Licence as you said it lasts for life mate thank you.
 

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It will only last until the vendor trips the abuse tag at the MS servers - then at next validation all the machines it is installed on will be flagged as non-genuine.
 

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8GB - finally :)/8GB
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750GB Seagate internal
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It will only last until the vendor trips the abuse tag at the MS servers - then at next validation all the machines it is installed on will be flagged as non-genuine.
Ok so I need a new key/disc. As I understand it I have to stay away from OEM versions correct? So I am looking for a full version 32 bit correct? That guy at Amazon is telling me the key will be accepted and I can call Microsoft to verify it is a genuine key, he is very convincing but sounds to good to be true and is OEM so I can't buy it correct?
 

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All legit Retail copies come with both 32-bit and 64-bit disks.
All OEM copies only come with one disk - either 64-bit or 32-bit - but the Key will activate both 64-bit and 32-bit installs (but only one at a time!).

Technically, there is nothing to stop you buying and using an OEM Key - it's a case of ethics and law. The OEM license terms specify that the OS must installed on the machine in a particular way - for a third party to use.
If you're prepared to ignore that, then theoretically, MS could revoke the license and block the Key for that alone. So far as I am aware, they have never done so for a self-builder.

To my mind the biggest thing against OEM licenses is the fact that they cannot be transferred to new machines, and the motherboard cannot be upgraded.

NOTE:
As far as I know, Dell do not ship machines without a license of some kind - so what is your machine licensed for?
If it's for Windows7 Pro, then no problem - simply swap the COA Key in.
If it's for any other edition of Windows 7, life gets a little more complicated- but you could use an Amytime Upgrade Key

If it's for an earlier edition of Windows, then you could use a full retail Upgrade Key (and a bit of hassle).

If it's for Windows 8 Pro, then simply talk to Dell and see if they will provide a Win7 Recovery set for your machine.


DO NOT buy anything on eBay!! The instance you pointed to is COUNTERFEIT.
 

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Asus K52F or Lenovo B51-80
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Motherboard
Asus/Lenovo
Memory
8GB - finally :)/8GB
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15.6" built-in
Screen Resolution
1366x768/1920x1080
Hard Drives
750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network
1TB SSD on the Lenovo
PSU
n/a
Internet Speed
as much as I can get - usually on a dongle/phone, so <1MB/s
Antivirus
MSE/Defender
Browser
IE11/12/Edge/Chrome/FF(if I must)
All legit Retail copies come with both 32-bit and 64-bit disks.
All OEM copies only come with one disk - either 64-bit or 32-bit - but the Key will activate both 64-bit and 32-bit installs (but only one at a time!).

Technically, there is nothing to stop you buying and using an OEM Key - it's a case of ethics and law. The OEM license terms specify that the OS must installed on the machine in a particular way - for a third party to use.
If you're prepared to ignore that, then theoretically, MS could revoke the license and block the Key for that alone. So far as I am aware, they have never done so for a self-builder.

To my mind the biggest thing against OEM licenses is the fact that they cannot be transferred to new machines, and the motherboard cannot be upgraded.

NOTE:
As far as I know, Dell do not ship machines without a license of some kind - so what is your machine licensed for?
If it's for Windows7 Pro, then no problem - simply swap the COA Key in.
If it's for any other edition of Windows 7, life gets a little more complicated- but you could use an Amytime Upgrade Key

If it's for an earlier edition of Windows, then you could use a full retail Upgrade Key (and a bit of hassle).

If it's for Windows 8 Pro, then simply talk to Dell and see if they will provide a Win7 Recovery set for your machine.


DO NOT buy anything on eBay!! The instance you pointed to is COUNTERFEIT.
Ok thanks mate my Dell came with Vista which I do not like at all but I love windows 7 Professional. I have had this installed since 2011 and as far as I am aware I am the only one with the licence. You seem to have had yours for a while why do you think I will lose mine shortly? Or is it just a guessing game?
 

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My MSDN I acquired because I was a subscriber to MSDN (through being an MS-MVP for 5 years).

If you simply purchased the Win7 key, then you were sold one of dozens that the vendor sold - eventually it WILL hit the trigger-point as more people reinstall, or he cashes in on whatever remaining sales he can make.
Once that happens, the Key will be blocked - and validation will fail on all machines with that Key installed, and activation will fail on any new installs done with that Key.
 

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Asus/Lenovo
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8GB - finally :)/8GB
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it's an i3, dude!/dual Intel&nVidia
Sound Card
onboard
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15.6" built-in
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1366x768/1920x1080
Hard Drives
750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network
1TB SSD on the Lenovo
PSU
n/a
Internet Speed
as much as I can get - usually on a dongle/phone, so <1MB/s
Antivirus
MSE/Defender
Browser
IE11/12/Edge/Chrome/FF(if I must)
My MSDN I acquired because I was a subscriber to MSDN (through being an MS-MVP for 5 years).

If you simply purchased the Win7 key, then you were sold one of dozens that the vendor sold - eventually it WILL hit the trigger-point as more people reinstall, or he cashes in on whatever remaining sales he can make.
Once that happens, the Key will be blocked - and validation will fail on all machines with that Key installed, and activation will fail on any new installs done with that Key.
Thanks again for that mate what abouth this one or am I breaking any rules here Windows :: Windows 7 - will I be ok if I buy that one thanks again I was ready just to buy off that guy.
 

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The giveaway here is the fact that they claim it's a digital download.
The ONLY three businesses authorised to sell Windows by digital download are Microsoft, Dell, and HP.
Anyone else is selling counterfeits.
This particular site changed hands in April this year 365professionals.com Whois - 365 professionals - Who.is and is untested, and likely to disappear sooner rather than later.
 

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Asus K52F or Lenovo B51-80
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Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
CPU
i3 370M/i7 6500U
Motherboard
Asus/Lenovo
Memory
8GB - finally :)/8GB
Graphics Card(s)
it's an i3, dude!/dual Intel&nVidia
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
15.6" built-in
Screen Resolution
1366x768/1920x1080
Hard Drives
750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network
1TB SSD on the Lenovo
PSU
n/a
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Antivirus
MSE/Defender
Browser
IE11/12/Edge/Chrome/FF(if I must)
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