Windows 7 Forums
Welcome to Windows 7 Forums. Our forum is dedicated to helping you find support and solutions for any problems regarding your Windows 7 PC be it Dell, HP, Acer, Asus or a custom build. We also provide an extensive Windows 7 tutorial section that covers a wide range of tips and tricks.


Windows 7: Acronis True Image Home 2010 / SSD / Try and Decide

06 Jul 2011   #1
stereo

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 
Acronis True Image Home 2010 / SSD / Try and Decide

Hello.
I want to ask you some questions about ATI 2010 / SSD compatibility / Try and Decide option
My OS is Windows 7 / 32 bit. I have a new SSD, OCZ Vertex2 and 2 more HDD's
The SSD is for the C partition, and the other 2 HDD's are only for storage. When i used to have C on HDD, i never had problems with the option Try and Decide, but now, with the SSD as OS partition, almost everytime when i test a program, i enable Try and Decide and can test whatever i want, with no fear of viruses or whatever.
But after i reboot, i have there 2 options : Continue in the Mode and Stop and Discard changes ( something like that )
When i press Stop and Discard changes,Windows starts up, etc .... Mozilla Firefox 5, my default browser is messed up.
A lot of changes / options / settings from Mozilla, are up side down. I don't understand how comes, but it's true.
Every other programs / settings are okay after i use Try and Decide, except Mozilla Firefox.
I never used System Restore from Windows 7, and i don't wanna use it. I wish i could restore my backup image, often, but i heard is not recommended for SSD ( life time - shorter, etc )
I mention that i didn't created the Acronis Secure Zone. Could that be the reason ?
But when i used the HDD as C partition, some time before, i didn't have those problems, and i never created Acronis Secure Zone.
Could be, maybe, some compatibility between ATI Home 2010 and SSD ?
Please give me some tips, i really need / like / use a lot / Acronis, i don't wanna change this program
Thanks in advance.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
.
06 Jul 2011   #2
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

It may be a good idea to have your Try and Decide partition on a seperate Hard Drive (other than with the OS) , but it doesnt have to be ASZ, unless you prefer it to be.
Same for any other type of backup.


As far as restoring Images go, it will not hurt the SSD.
Ive done so many full disc restores to my SSD I couldn't possibly count them all. Its fine.

From what you have said, your SSD contains only Windows and Apps, correct? App DATA is located elsewhere?

I would just doing a Full disc image of the SSD, and restoring it in that same manner, rather than by partition. Although that would work fine as well, a full image is easiest IMHO.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
06 Jul 2011   #3
stereo

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Wishmaster View Post
It may be a good idea to have your Try and Decide partition on a seperate Hard Drive (other than with the OS) , but it doesnt have to be ASZ, unless you prefer it to be.
Same for any other type of backup.


As far as restoring Images go, it will not hurt the SSD.
Ive done so many full disc restores to my SSD I couldn't possibly count them all. Its fine.

From what you have said, your SSD contains only Windows and Apps, correct? App DATA is located elsewhere?

I would just doing a Full disc image of the SSD, and restoring it in that same manner, rather than by partition. Although that would work fine as well, a full image is easiest IMHO.
Wishmaster, i think you saved me
Let's take it step by step:
first of all, i don't really know what Acronis Try and Decide is doing, i mean the way is working.
Let's give an example : i want to test the software X, okay ? Before i install X, i activate Try and Decide.
After that, i install X. What happent with this program X ? Where is X installed ?
On this " Try and Decide private partition" ??? If Try And Decide would be on D ( HDD ) the program X would be installed on D ? Sorry, i don't know how to ask.
Okay, and now the second part : i never did a Full disc image, only partition image.
What's the difference, actually ?
About my SSD - C partition, yes, it contains only only Windows and Apps.
App DATA is located on C / Users / my username / AppData
Is that wrong ? I only removed My Documents to D ( HDD ) because there are a lot of folders "saved games" and i wanna keep them in D partition.
And about restoring the backup image often, i heard that's very bad for SSD.
After 4 days of using my new SSD, i have ( SSD Life soft ) about :
DATA READ 320 GB
DATA WRITTEN 192 GB
Is that not to much, after 4 days ?
Would you explain it to me, please, about Full disc image - backup and recovery ?
Thanks a million.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
.

06 Jul 2011   #4
HammerHead

win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1
 
 
Confused

Try and decide is mounted to a virtual disk not one of your "real" disks. I am running both 2010 and 2011 on (different machines) from SSD's with no problems. If I understand your post you have another problem.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
06 Jul 2011   #5
stereo

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by HammerHead View Post
Try and decide is mounted to a virtual disk not one of your "real" disks. I am running both 2010 and 2011 on (different machines) from SSD's with no problems. If I understand your post you have another problem.
ATI 2010 it's okay, only the option Try and Decide doesen't work 100 %
If i put Try and Decide on D partition ( HDD ) would be okay 20 GB allocated space ?
I ask that, because it could happent that i install / try / VirtualBox and with 2-3 Linux OS inside, which is a lot of used space, for Try and Decide.
It's just an example, of course.
So, whatever i install when Try and Decide is ON, the installed program is on that mounted virtual disk ?
Offtopic : Did you use often restore image on your SSD ?
I heard that's harmful for SSD's
Thank you.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
06 Jul 2011   #6
HammerHead

win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1
 
 
Try and Decide

Try and Decide is part of your ATI software it is installed where ever you installed ATI. When ever you invoke it it starts a virtual disk and assigns a drive letter that is not being used.

This virtual disk will not harm any hardware of your machine that includes your SSD. Where ever you picked up that info they are misinformed.

The intent of Try and decide is for you to make changes, add programs etc. In this virtual environment to see if there is any negative impact or just for you try out new software.

The copy of your OS in the virtual environment has every thing that you need operate while using the virtual disk. Nothing is written (data, any changes) until you close try and decide. Then you can save or discard changes. If you save it is written to disk. If you have installed a program for instance it wil be written to the destination that you chose when installing. If you discard, everything just "evaporates".
My System SpecsSystem Spec
06 Jul 2011   #7
stereo

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

But, i think that's not a very good if i have Try and Decide on D ( HDD ) partition.
Let's say i try one program. I like it. I wanna apply changes, so the program should remain / be installed
This program which i just tested, would be installed on D , if Try and Decide is on D ?
I think so... and unfortunately i don't wanna install programs ( except games ) on D


You said "Try and Decide is part of your ATI software it is installed where ever you installed ATI. When ever you invoke it it starts a virtual disk and assigns a drive letter that is not being used"
I know that Try and Decide is part of Acronis True Image. But as you said, i can create Try and Decide
( Storage for virtual changes ) on D or E .....

LE : sorry, i didn't read careful this part
"If you have installed a program for instance it wil be written to the destination that you chose when installing"
Hmmm, if i move Try and Decide to D, and i wanna test some program, can i choice C / Program Files ?
If i choice this destination, what's the point about Try and Decide to D ?
That makes me confuse, because i don't know if i wanna keep or not this program.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
06 Jul 2011   #8
HammerHead

win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1
 
 
Disk Imaging

With Ati you can write a disk image of your entire disk at the time the job is initiated. You can save it to a location of your choice. USB stick for instance or to an external disk. With the latter is my preference but I also keep one image on a USB stick. When ever I deem a restore is needed to my OS I can use these images to restore from. It can be initiated from within windows or you can use the ATI boot disk that you should have created.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
06 Jul 2011   #9
HammerHead

win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1
 
 
c: or D:?

You don't need to assign a size to the Virtual disk it is in ram and ATI will decide what size.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
06 Jul 2011   #10
stereo

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by HammerHead View Post
With Ati you can write a disk image of your entire disk at the time the job is initiated. You can save it to a location of your choice. USB stick for instance or to an external disk. With the latter is my preference but I also keep one image on a USB stick. When ever I deem a restore is needed to my OS I can use these images to restore from. It can be initiated from within windows or you can use the ATI boot disk that you should have created.
That's 100 % the way i do with the backup image

That's why i asked where is the difference between full disc backup and image ( C partition ) backup
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Reply

 Acronis True Image Home 2010 / SSD / Try and Decide




Thread Tools




Similar help and support threads
Thread Forum
Acronis true Image Home 2010
I put the recovery disk into my windows 7 64 bit using Acronis true Image Home 2010 and it boots up giving me two choice one is "Acronis true Image Home Full Version" and the second is return to Windows so I click on the first one but the screen remain blank My other computer launch but I have one...
Backup and Restore
Acronis True Image Home
I Image my C drive on the 2nd partition of the same drive. I then copied the image to an external drive. If I lose my drive that my C drive is on and then replace it with a new drive can I Image from my external drive to the new Hard drive and it will be the same size and make? The reason for this...
Backup and Restore
Acronis True Image Home 2010
I have a WD HD with backup software but I was just wondering if Acronis True Image Home 2010 Backup might be better. Usually the software that comes with a product is not as good as a 3rd party that specialize in it?
Backup and Restore
Acronis True Image 2010 bootloader
I have a new HP Pavilion DV6 2113SA running 7 HP 64. The Acronis bootloader (ISOLinux, from a link supplied by Acronis) gets to the ramdisk loading......... but then sits there with a blank screen, the CD works on another system OK although it is a 32 bit system. Is there anything in this...
Backup and Restore
Acronis® True Image Home 2010
I have XP, Vista, and Windows 7 and this will back them all up. Windows 7 backup is crap because it wants to back up the entire hard drive not counting other things it won't do. I'm a retired Computer Pro but I cannot see getting anything except the home version. I got Vista Ultimate and that was a...
Backup and Restore
Acronis True Image Home 11 - is it OK with 7
Does anyone have any experience of using Acronis True Image Home 11 with Seven :geek: I use it with XP to make my backup images. Am I safe to use with Seven. Thanks,
Backup and Restore


Our Sites

Site Links

About Us

Find Us

Windows 7 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 7" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

© Designer Media Ltd

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 14:14.
Twitter Facebook Google+ Seven Forums iOS App Seven Forums Android App