Just Got This Notification From Microsoft???

evhid1 · Dec 11, 2015

Dear user, In a few weeks, we will be making some changes to our email services that might impact your @outlook.com, @hotmail, @live, or @msn email account. Those changes will prevent your email from being delivered to the Windows Live Mail 2012 application you use. In order to continue using Windows Live Mail 2012 to send and receive email for your account, you need to install the latest update published here. If you use Windows Live Mail 2012 on Windows 8, Windows 8.1 or Windows 10, we recommend that you switch to the built in Mail app in Windows to stay connected and get the latest feature updates on Windows 8, Windows 8.1, and Windows 10. Windows Live Essentials 2009 and 2011 are not supported anymore, and you will need to update to Windows 8/8.1 or Windows 10 and use the Mail app, or use www.outlook.com. To learn more about the Mail app, please click here. We also recommend all Windows Live Mail users on Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1 to upgrade to Windows 10 and use the built in Mail application to stay connected and get the latest feature updates. We suggest saving this email so you can refer to it later. Thanks for your understanding and continued use. Sincerely,
The Outlook team

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rthomas268 · Dec 11, 2015

OK, so looks like I don't have a choice any more. So I have been researching what I need to do.

1. Backup my WLM folders so I can access my business emails easily.

2. Go ahead and do a WLM upgrade ( won't need it after the Win10 upgrade)

3. Run a test upgrade on my Win8 tablet - if all goes well and works fine after a few days I will have to upgrade my PC.

What else do I need to do or know??

Thanks

derekimo · Dec 11, 2015

That's a bogus email.

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Recognizing phishing scams
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When the offer seems too good to be true.

When the email asks you to send personal or account info (like your user name and password, your date of birth, Social Security number, or bank info) by replying to the email. Microsoft and other legitimate companies will never ask you to provide this sort of info via email. They'll ask you to go to their website to sign in and update your info there.

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When the sender’s email address has an overseas domain. For example: [email protected], @example.ru, or @example.ng.

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When the tone is personal and confidential, but it looks like a group email, with a generic greeting. For example: “Dear Microsoft Customer” or “Dear Trusted Sir or Madam”.

Brds7t7 · Dec 11, 2015

I don't think it's bogus Derek as it links directly to a MS hotfix download straight from the MS site.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3093594

derekimo · Dec 11, 2015

Where do you get that link out of that email? They all come back as errors for me.

Brds7t7 · Dec 11, 2015

I think it's just the way it's been copied and pasted. I got the email and it links me directly to the MS site.

Not sure what changes MS is making to outlook, but I've already installed the patch.

derekimo · Dec 11, 2015

http://www.sevenforums.com/vip/387454-legit-con.html

evhid1 · Dec 11, 2015

derekimo said:
That's a bogus email.

Deal with abuse, phishing, or spam in Outlook.com - Outlook.com help

Recognizing phishing scams
Here are some tips to help you recognize when an email is a scam.

When the offer seems too good to be true.

When the email asks you to send personal or account info (like your user name and password, your date of birth, Social Security number, or bank info) by replying to the email. Microsoft and other legitimate companies will never ask you to provide this sort of info via email. They'll ask you to go to their website to sign in and update your info there.

Warning: In suspicious-looking email, never click links that supposedly take you to a company website. The sender might be spoofing the website (providing their own fake version) to collect your sign-in info. When in doubt, go to the website using favorites, search history, or by entering the URL in the address box.

When the sender’s email address has an overseas domain. For example: [email protected], @example.ru, or @example.ng.

When the sender's email address has a domain that's a string of seemingly random numbers and or letters. For example: @VNbM6f3.com.

When the sender’s name in the header doesn’t match the sender's email address.

When the tone is personal and confidential, but it looks like a group email, with a generic greeting. For example: “Dear Microsoft Customer” or “Dear Trusted Sir or Madam”.

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I went to Microsoft's web site here: Download Update for Windows Live Essentials Mail 2012 (KB3093594) from Official Microsoft Download Center and typed in the file name I was suppose to update WLM with ( d-Mail_msp ) and it came up with this same download. I think it is legit but would like some more input from this forum users to verify. I went through a big hassel when Microsoft locked my Hotmail account and I had to get another one with Outlook. I hope I don't have to do this shhhtuff again!

Just went to the site Brds7t7 posted and it's the same as what have. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Brds7t7 · Dec 11, 2015

Seems okay but you never know these days.
Have installed and haven't noticed anything strange. No strange processes running, no strange files. Virus scan all clear.

I will keep an eye on it though. If you haven't installed it yet then wait a while.
I'll report back if I notice anything weird.

Painter · Dec 12, 2015

Looks as though it is causing problems. I see some posts on other sites indicating calendar corrupted and a few others indicating that WLM is unusable. Others saying that the patch itself will not install. If you just Google the KB you will get all the sites that are reporting problems over the past few hours.

I think it would be best to wait until the dust settles.

Callender · Dec 12, 2015

See here: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...l-or-not/892803e1-5bc5-443e-8799-3fad3982cebf

evhid1 · Dec 12, 2015

Thanks for the info guys, I think I will wait like you say and see what develops.

groze · Dec 13, 2015

If that letter is legit. Will I need to change the thunderbird IMAP servers? I access outlook dot com through thunderbird email client.

Callender · Dec 13, 2015

groze said:
If that letter is legit. Will I need to change the thunderbird IMAP servers? I access outlook dot com through thunderbird email client.

Should be okay I reckon. If not then you might need to switch to POP3.

evhid1 · Dec 14, 2015

According to Microsofts answer about this update from Callender's post http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...9-3fad3982cebf which said:

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Hi Lenny,

Thank you for posting your query in Microsoft Community. I understand that you have a few doubts regarding the Email that you have received from our end. Let me help you.

This email is a genuine one. If you use Windows Live Mail 2012 on Windows 8, Windows 8.1 or Windows 10, we recommend that you switch to the built in Mail app in Windows to stay connected and get the latest feature updates on Windows 8, Windows 8.1, and Windows 10.

If you need any further clarification regarding the email or any concern over Windows Operating Systems, please feel free to contact us again. We will be happy to assist you accordingly.
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Since I am using Windows Live Essentials 2012 with windows 7, I don't need to update? correct? Only the folks who have Windows 8, 8.1 or 10 with the WLM 2012 need it.

DavidE · Dec 14, 2015

evhid1 said:
Since I am using Windows Live Essentials 2012 with windows 7, I don't need to update? correct? Only the folks who have Windows 8, 8.1 or 10 with the WLM 2012 need it.

That's not my understanding, but i think the email is poorly worded and confusing.
Here is a quote from the email in post #1, there is no mention of any OS.

In a few weeks, we will be making some changes to our email services that might impact your @outlook.com, @hotmail, @live, or @msn email account. Those changes will prevent your email from being delivered to the Windows Live Mail 2012 application you use. In order to continue using Windows Live Mail 2012 to send and receive email for your account, you need to install the latest update published here.

imho, other statements in that email are trying to push people off of WLM and use the built-in Win OS email client, or upgrading to Win 10.

groze · Dec 14, 2015

In a few weeks, we will be making some changes to our email services that might impact your @outlook.com, @hotmail, @live, or @msn email account. Those changes will prevent your email from being delivered to the Windows Live Mail 2012 application you use.

DavidE said:
imho, other statements in that email are trying to push people off of WLM and use the built-in Win OS email client, or upgrading to Win 10.

That brings my question back I asked earlier. That means they maybe changing mail servers or eliminating them. I hope Microsoft is not eliminating them. It will make my Thunderbird useless. That how I access my emails on Linux system as well.

DavidE · Dec 14, 2015

I have several "MS" email accounts, i just checked 2 of them in Web Mail, 1 was converted to the new format, and 1 was not converted.
So, right now i have a mix of converted and not converted accounts.

On Win 7 x64 Pro with Office Outlook Pro 2010, all my email accounts still work.
I didn't have to change servers, or make any other changes (so far).
I believe Thunderbird will continue to work without server changes.

I THINK this only affects WLM and MS Email accounts, but i haven't tested all this on my TEST PC where i use WLM, Thunderbird, etc.

DavidE · Dec 14, 2015

I never got an email from MS about this change.
It would be nice if MS sent an email to the account they just converted letting the user know "Your account has been changed ... ".

ThrashZone · Dec 14, 2015

Yea I remember a windows update for win-7 that made it possible to use win-10 desktop apps :/
Possibly this is why

Luckily I don't use live mail or depend on M$ services or servers for office outlook

Which I prefer over live mail but still only use it for sending invoices and estimates everything else goes through a gmail account

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