Solved WinRE - Advice on How to move to Boot (System Reserved) Partition?

Brds7t7 · Jan 29, 2012

Hi everyone, just wondering if anyone could help me with advice on how to move the Windows Recovery Environment from the Windows partition to the Boot (System Reserved partition)?

I am using Win7 Pro x64. I currently have a 250mb System Reserved partition. I extended this from 100mb as it was causing problems with the Win7 image backup.

I've been reading a few guides which say it's advisable to place Winre.wim into the System Reserved partition instead of on the windows partition but I'm not sure how to do this?

Any advice would be appreciated, thanks.

CreepinJesus · Jan 29, 2012

I can't help with this, I'm afraid, BUT I can possibly help with the 100MB "System Reserved" issue. Take a log at this ancient blog post I did: CreepinJesus.net - Windows 7 Backup Problem - Not Enough Space!? (I'm just throwing it out here just in case that's the problem you're having

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gregrocker · Jan 29, 2012

We deal with these issues here every day and I've not heard of moving WinRE to SysReserved. If Win7 won't boot and it disappears off F8, I'd run System Recovery Options from Win7 DVD or System Repair Disk.

TJG · Jan 29, 2012

There are instructions on how to do this during a new install in the docs for the WAIK 3.0, don't know about moving them.

TJG

Brds7t7 · Jan 29, 2012

Hi, thanks for the replies. My system reserved and recovery options are both working ok. I got the idea from looking at this forum:

Windows 7, "Repair your computer" F8 boot option not working (SOLVED) | Knowledge Base

If you look further down it tells details of how people have moved winre.wim into the boot partition. I think the only reason they've done it is in case they somehow can't access the Windows partition.

However, if you think it's a bad idea I'll take your advice and leave it alone.

Brds7t7 · Jan 30, 2012

OK, so I've managed to find details on how to move WinRE into boot partition. I've enclosed a couple of screenshots. I just need a bit of advice and which bcdedit commands I would need to run.

The before shows how my system is set up now and the after is how my bcd entries should look. I have highlighted the items which would need to be changed.

Obviously the GUID's would be different as these were guides from another pc.

I'm unsure which bcdedit commands I would need to run. Also would I be able to do this from a WinPE 3.0 disk?

I'd greatly appreciate any help thanks guys!

theog · Jan 30, 2012

gregrocker said:
We deal with these issues here every day and I've not heard of moving WinRE to SysReserved. If Win7 won't boot and it disappears off F8, I'd run System Recovery Options from Win7 DVD or System Repair Disk.

Have you done the above?

Information

Boot up using the Startup Repair CD or Windows 7 DVD. (not the OEM manufacturer's Recovery Disk) If you have a Netbook, you will need a CD/DVD drive.
NOTE: Make sure no USB drives are plugged in.
Do not use a USB Pendrive for Startup Repair.
startup repair disc-create

SIW2 · Jan 30, 2012

Looks like it would work fine that way.

You just need to run bcdedit to find your ramdisk entry - you probably only have one ( I have lots - but that is because I added them ).

Then just change them to point at the harddisk partition , exactly as in that post.

Probably easiest to do it with this :View attachment 195925

You can run it from pe if you like ( 32 bit , or 64 bit with wow support ).

It is also possible to add it in addition to the original entry, if you like.

So you can use a different Fkey to start it up, e.g. F9

Brds7t7 · Jan 30, 2012

Hi theog, no I haven't done the above yet as I'm unsure which commands to run.

I'm still a bit of a novice when it comes to command prompts but I'm learning slowly.

Brds7t7 · Jan 30, 2012

Hi SIW2, would that utility help me find out the ramdisk entry?

I'm on a laptop running xp at the moment so I'm unable to try it until I get home later.

Brds7t7 · Jan 30, 2012

Oh and enclosed a couple more screenshots from my own pc if that helps at all?

SIW2 · Jan 30, 2012

Yes that will be it

You can run the commands if you want - it's a bit long winded, tho.

Plenty of applications will load up the bcd store and let you edit it. Probably simpler.

gregrocker · Jan 30, 2012

How about using EasyBCD?

What would be the steps to move WinRE to SysReserved after resizing it to what size?

Brds7t7 · Jan 30, 2012

I've got EasyBCD but I haven't worked out how to change those entries using that programme!

Brds7t7 · Jan 30, 2012

Hi gregrocker, my system reserved is currently 250mb but I'm going to extend it to 350mb first before I attempt any of this as I've read on technet that it's advisable to make it at least 300mb if it contains WinRE .

gregrocker · Jan 30, 2012

We have our teacher SIW2 in the house, who will know if anyone.

Brds7t7 · Jan 30, 2012

I know the guys a legend! Actually you all are! This forum has saved me many many times in the past!

SIW2 · Jan 30, 2012

You could use Easybcd, I suppose - that can put an entry on the boot menu for any kind of bootable wim.

What did you do exactly?

Did you just copy the entire Recovery folder onto another partition?

Or did you create Recovery\winre\winre.wim on another partition?

Brds7t7 · Jan 30, 2012

I haven't been able to do any of it yet SIW2 as I'm not at home to do it. And I want to make sure I know exactly what I'm doing before I attempt anything

Would I be able to just copy the Recovery Folder into SysReserved from Within Windows?

TJG · Jan 30, 2012

That partition with system is probably 100MB or 200MB, you probably will need 700MB for just system + winre, but if you plan to have an image.wim file on the partition also, you will need a lot more space. I have 10GB for my partition with an image on it. My system is 32bit and I see you are working with 64bit which makes some problems when trying to run 32 bit winre tools on a 64 bit system, but it can be done. Good luck.

TJG

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