Old ASUS + AGP = BSOD

[Reshur]

Greetings,

I recently bought a new AGP card to upgrade my system and after installing it I decided to test Windows 7 here. Everything was going well until it started to crash while running Oblivion, editing pictures on Photoshop and running MSN. This is what I got last time it crashed:

Assinatura do problema:
Nome do Evento de Problema: BlueScreen
Versão do sistema operacional: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.1
Identificação da Localidade: 1046

Informações adicionais sobre o problema:
BCCode: 124
BCP1: 00000000
BCP2: 8641035C
BCP3: 00000000
BCP4: 00000000
OS Version: 6_1_7600
Service Pack: 0_0
Product: 256_1

Arquivos que ajudam a descrever o problema:
C:\Windows\Minidump\101010-23937-01.dmp
C:\Users\Villanova\AppData\Local\Temp\WER-116593-0.sysdata.xml

I'm not sure if it is a problem with my Win7 (it is a fresh install in a brand new hard disk), network drivers, ATI drivers or even my hard disk (it is running at half capacity). Any help would be greatly appreciated since I'm pulling my hair every time it freezes. BSOD memory dump and system file collection are available here: Reshur BSOD.zip - 4shared.com - online file sharing and storage - download

System Specs:
Pentium IV 3.0E
ASUS P4S800D-X
2x Kingston HyperX PC3200 1GB DDR (DC)
ATI XFX Radeon 4650 1GB (AGP/10.9 drivers)
Creative Sound Blaster 5.1 (+Daniel K's drivers)
Samsung T190
1440 x 900 @75Hz
1TB SATAII SEAGATE 7200RPM ST31000528AS (working at 1,5Gb/s)
Windows 7 Ultimate x32

Thanks in advance for reading.

 

[Reshur]

The original DMP files as request by zigzag3143: Reshur DMPs.zip - 4shared.com - online file sharing and storage - download

 

[zigzag3143]

Greetings,

I recently bought a new AGP card to upgrade my system and after installing it I decided to test Windows 7 here. Everything was going well until it started to crash while running Oblivion, editing pictures on Photoshop and running MSN. This is what I got last time it crashed:

Assinatura do problema:
Nome do Evento de Problema: BlueScreen
Versão do sistema operacional: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.1
Identificação da Localidade: 1046

Informações adicionais sobre o problema:
BCCode: 124
BCP1: 00000000
BCP2: 8641035C
BCP3: 00000000
BCP4: 00000000
OS Version: 6_1_7600
Service Pack: 0_0
Product: 256_1

Arquivos que ajudam a descrever o problema:
C:\Windows\Minidump\101010-23937-01.dmp
C:\Users\Villanova\AppData\Local\Temp\WER-116593-0.sysdata.xml

I'm not sure if it is a problem with my Win7 (it is a fresh install in a brand new hard disk), network drivers, ATI drivers or even my hard disk (it is running at half capacity). Any help would be greatly appreciated since I'm pulling my hair every time it freezes. BSOD memory dump and system file collection are available here: Reshur BSOD.zip - 4shared.com - online file sharing and storage - download

System Specs:
Pentium IV 3.0E
ASUS P4S800D-X
2x Kingston HyperX PC3200 1GB DDR (DC)
ATI XFX Radeon 4650 1GB (AGP/10.9 drivers)
Creative Sound Blaster 5.1 (+Daniel K's drivers)
Samsung T190
1440 x 900 @75Hz
1TB SATAII SEAGATE 7200RPM ST31000528AS (working at 1,5Gb/s)
Windows 7 Ultimate x32

Thanks in advance for reading.

BCCode 124 is hardware related. Please read here and read what it means and what to try.
Your .dmp file shows a stop error of 0x124 which is a general hardware error .. A "stop 0x124" is fundamentally different to many other types of bluescreens because it stems from a hardware complaint. Stop 0x124 minidumps contain very little practical information, and it is therefore necessary to approach the problem as a case of hardware in an unknown state of distress. You can read more on this error and what to try here... Stop 0x124 - what it means and what to try http://www.sevenforums.com/crash-lockup-debug-how/35349-stop-0x124-what-means-what-try.html

Also one glaringly old driver

SISAGPX.sys        0x88e2c000    0x88e3d000    0x00011000    0x453881ba    10/20/2006 03:58:50

SISAGPX.sys is related to SiS AGPv3.5 Filter. Manufacturer: Silicon Integrated Systems Corp. Welcome to Silicon Integrated Systems Corp..

The hardware issue may be related to your Raid and its old drivers. Update them.

dump_SiSRaid2.sys        0x88ed4000    0x88ee1000    0x0000d000    0x48da84c1    9/24/2008 14:19:45                        
SiSRaid2.sys        0x8877a000    0x88787000    0x0000d000    0x48da84c1    9/24/2008 14:19:45

Thanks


Ken

 

[Lemur]

E aí?

The only problem with perfmon is the security center - anti-virus.
Verificações de informações relativas ao estado da Central de Segurança.

Não faz mal.

The dump suggests a hardware error. Usually I don't buy this, but in your case I might suspect the video card. The driver is up to date.

Have your overclocked the video card?

Just for the heck of it, reboot into safe mode. Run a full virus scan and malwarebytes.

Run memtest86+

Then run Prime95.

If no problems with all of these tests, can you swap video cards with a friend for testing purposes?

Boa sorte!

 

[Reshur]

One second guys, I need to buy some breads before checking it carefully.

 

[Reshur]

Also one glaringly old driver

SISAGPX.sys        0x88e2c000    0x88e3d000    0x00011000    0x453881ba    10/20/2006 03:58:50

SISAGPX.sys is related to SiS AGPv3.5 Filter. Manufacturer: Silicon Integrated Systems Corp. Welcome to Silicon Integrated Systems Corp..

Something odd happened while visiting SIS website: its SiS Chipset Identification Online Utility has not detected my hardware/drivers as SIS's stuff. So I tried it manually and found no updates for 655FX chipset. Nothing new on ASUS website too.

The hardware issue may be related to your Raid and its old drivers. Update them.

dump_SiSRaid2.sys        0x88ed4000    0x88ee1000    0x0000d000    0x48da84c1    9/24/2008 14:19:45                        
SiSRaid2.sys        0x8877a000    0x88787000    0x0000d000    0x48da84c1    9/24/2008 14:19:45

Thanks


Ken

Unless I'm looking in the wrong places, there is no updates available for RAID and AGP:

P4S800D-X Beta BIIOS 1006.002 [COLOR="Red"]2006/06/28[/COLOR] (not installed here)
SiS AGP WHQL Drivers for Windows 98SE/ME/2000/XP V7.2.0.1170 [COLOR="red"]2003/07/28[/COLOR] 
SiS RAID Driver V1.05.  [COLOR="red"]2004/10/14[/COLOR]

Any tips?

 

[Reshur]

E aí?

Have your overclocked the video card?

Just for the heck of it, reboot into safe mode. Run a full virus scan and malwarebytes.

Run memtest86+

Then run Prime95.

If no problems with all of these tests, can you swap video cards with a friend for testing purposes?

Boa sorte!

Olá,

No, no overclock: I'm using it as it came (600MHz/400MHz).

I'll try memtest86+ and Prime95 now and yes: I have another AGP card around here (an old 'n' good FX5200).

'brigadão!

 

[Solarstarshines]

THE HD465O is a delicate card i used that card previously on a agp system and end up malfunctioning and going out I thought my motherboard and other coponents were ruined but it was the video card that type of hd card on agp is not a good card

Nothing but issues running a hd 4650 agp on a old p4 system just my opinion though

 

[Lemur]

E aí?

Have your overclocked the video card?

Just for the heck of it, reboot into safe mode. Run a full virus scan and malwarebytes.

Run memtest86+

Then run Prime95.

If no problems with all of these tests, can you swap video cards with a friend for testing purposes?

Boa sorte!

Olá,

No, no overclock: I'm using it as it came (600MHz/400MHz).

I'll try memtest86+ and Prime95 now and yes: I have another AGP card around here (an old 'n' good FX5200).

'brigadão!

Não há de quê.

Let us know if you have any success.

 

[Reshur]

THE HD465O is a delicate card i used that card previously on a agp system and end up malfunctioning and going out I thought my motherboard and other coponents were ruined but it was the video card that type of hd card on agp is not a good card

Nothing but issues running a hd 4650 agp on a old p4 system just my opinion though

I thought it was just a rumor and shit. Until now. :drool:

 

[Solarstarshines]

Well im not on how many others had the same issue but i know for sure it caused me to just build a new rig and stop trying to upgrade a old system

there's nothing wrong with upgrading older models but some of the stuff made is to powerfull for the 8x agp slot it is putting the 16x pci e time on a slot with half the performance which in turn probally bogged it all up and caused a malfunction


that is what i got from my experience these systems are constantly being updated half of the technology we use now basicly would bottle neck any system made in 2006 on back and everything else is going 64 bit

 

[Lemur]

I have an AGP card sitting on my desk from an older computer.

I bet this computer would cruise with Ubuntu.

 

[Reshur]

"Pass complete, no errors, press ESC to exit"
-memtest86+ v4.10

 

[Reshur]

Nothing special while running Prime95 as well.

 

[Reshur]

Synopsis:

A "stop 0x124" is fundamentally different to many other types of bluescreens because it stems from a hardware complaint. Stop 0x124 minidumps contain very little practical information, and it is therefore necessary to approach the problem as a case of hardware in an unknown state of distress.


Generic "Stop 0x124" Troubleshooting Strategy:

1) Ensure that none of the hardware components are overclocked. Hardware that is driven beyond its design specifications - by overclocking - can malfunction in unpredictable ways.​

Check.

2) Ensure that the machine is adequately cooled. If there is any doubt, open up the side of the PC case (be mindful of any relevant warranty conditions!) and point a mains fan squarely at the motherboard. That will rule out most (lack of) cooling issues.

Check.

3) Update all hardware-related drivers: video, sound, RAID (if any), NIC... anything that interacts with a piece of hardware. It is good practice to run the latest drivers anyway.

4) Update the motherboard BIOS according to the manufacturer's instructions. Their website should provide detailed instructions as to the brand and model-specific procedure.

5) Rarely, bugs in the OS may cause "false positive" 0x124 events where the hardware wasn't complaining but Windows thought otherwise (because of the bug). At the time of writing, Windows 7 is not known to suffer from any such defects, but it is nevertheless important to always keep Windows itself updated.

6) Attempt to (stress) test those hardware components which can be put through their paces artificially. The most obvious examples are the RAM and HDD(s). For the RAM, use the in-built memory diagnostics (run MDSCHED) or the 3rd-party memtest86 utility to run many hours worth of testing. For hard drives, check whether CHKDSK /R finds any problems on the drive(s), notably "bad sectors". Unreliable RAM, in particular, is deadly as far as software is concerned, and anything other than a 100% clear memory test result is cause for concern. Unfortunately, even a 100% clear result from the diagnostics utilities does not guarantee that the RAM is free from defects - only that none were encountered during the test passes.

7) As the last of the non-invasive troubleshooting steps, perform a "vanilla" reinstallation of Windows: just the OS itself without any additional applications, games, utilities, updates, or new drivers - NOTHING AT ALL that is not sourced from the Windows 7 disc. Should that fail to mitigate the 0x124 problem, jump to the next steps. Otherwise, if you run the "vanilla" installation long enough to convince yourself that not a single 0x124 crash has occurred, start installing updates and applications slowly, always pausing between successive additions long enough to get a feel for whether the machine is still free from 0x124 crashes. Should the crashing resume, obviously the very last software addition(s) may be somehow linked to the root cause.

If stop 0x124 errors persist despite the steps above, and the harware is under warranty, consider returning it and requesting a replacement which does not suffer periodic MCE events. Be aware that attempting the subsequent harware troubleshooting steps may, in some cases, void your warranty:

8) Clean and carefully remove any dust from the inside of the machine. Reseat all connectors and memory modules. Use a can of compressed air to clean out the RAM DIMM sockets as much as possible.

9) If all else fails, start removing items of hardware one-by-one in the hope that the culprit is something non-essential which can be removed. Obviously, this type of testing is a lot easier if you've got access to equivalent components in order to perform swaps.

​

Should you find yourself in the situation of having performed all of the steps above without a resolution of the symptom, unfortunately the most likely reason is because the error message is literally correct - something is fundamentally wrong with the machine's hardware.

I'm going to open, clean and check my machine tomorrow.

 

[zigzag3143]

Nothing special while running Prime95 as well.

Bet it is the raid driver have found tons mor BSOD's with the same problem.
http://www.sevenforums.com/crashes-...driver-power-state-failure-upon-shutdown.html


Ken J

 

[Solarstarshines]

you are running a 7600gt agp lemur ? wow i had a 7300gt bfg that card was awesome i even oc'ed it i was playing both left4 deads on that card but now that i stepped my game up it is even better i also tryed the hd 3650 and it ran great

I saw the price of the 4670 i think it was hd and that is where i had my fail after that im all pci -e im much happier though it had me in a state of feeling i toasted my system happy to say i installed the mobo on my cousins rig and it booted fine and ran like a champ with 2 gigs of ddr patriot ram

 

[Reshur]

Nothing special while running Prime95 as well.

Bet it is the raid driver have found tons mor BSOD's with the same problem.
http://www.sevenforums.com/crashes-...driver-power-state-failure-upon-shutdown.html


Ken J

There's only one RAID driver on ASUS website available for my mobo:

Version 1.05
Description	SiS RAID Driver V1.05.
File Size 5.17 (MBytes)
[COLOR="Red"]2004/10/14[/COLOR]

Guess I'll pass it.

On SiS website there's a v4.11a, but I'm not sure if it is compatible with my chipset. Let me download and check it.

 

[Lemur]

you are running a 7600gt agp lemur ?

Okay, now I'm totally freaked out. My video card is an ATI Radeon HD 5400. My board wouldn't take an AGP card. That is too weird!

 

[Solarstarshines]

well it was posted in your specs collum