Are you going to buy Win7 at these Prices

[DocBrown]

Micro$oft should take a lesson from Wal_Mart. Loose $100 on every copy of Win7 they sell, but make it up in Volume of more Sales :huh:

 

[Night Hawk]

Well the one thing to remember about any price is just what that is and not just for Windows alone. The price isn't for the disk or updates but the "license" to use their software on your system. That also applies to any other retail software.

When installing you agree to abide by each company's own licensing agreement which is where thay got you coming and going! Even with Linux and other OSs there's a few stipulations seen there as well if you look a little closer. What has been lately is the trend by the open source people to make Linux more appealing to whom?

Windows users! By making things a little easier to work with in each newer release they are trying to deflate the old "geek's OS" reputation seen years back. That effort will be increased with the introduction of 7 for sure!

 

[saverio]

dmex, phreephly, thanks for those insightfull views - I really didn't know any of my versons of past software qualified me to put them on three machines - I always bought retail versions for each one!

Phreephly, on the subject of commercials, I think that however missinforming you think the advertisments are, they served their purpose - to inform (rightly or wrongly) the differences between the two platforms.

Now, perhaps they did contribute to people shunning Vista without good reason, and I know many who do and prefer to stick with XP, but they can't answer why as they have no personal experience of it!

But my point was this, Apple commercials are (mis?)infomercials, they say this is what our product can do, and this is how. People now not only have the choice, but they have an understanding of why they can choose having seen the thing in action and having it explained to them.

When I saw the "I'm a PC" commercial it told me nothing about microsoft, or it's Vista product. It told me what I already knew - that a global community uses M$ products. It did not compell me to go and buy or contemplate buying Vista.

Whatever you may think about apple, their marketing is slick, and it it very good at targetting - which in part comes from over a decade of people with PC's asking why Mac?

M$ need to take this and learn from it, you can't just throw a product to market and expect people to jump on it just because of who you are, you need to educate them into understanding why it's good for them to change.

If they're on the ball, they can win this with 7, perhaps even using those little film clips on the 7 website of the guys explaining features.

What they won't get is sales by showing people saying I'm a PC and then throwing an MS logo into view at the end.

The only people that ever managed to pull that one off was apple themselves back in the eighties with their people staring at a big screen ad, but then, they did get Ridley Scott to do that.

M$ need and probably are aware that their potential customer base is now on the defensive, they all know that 7 is coming but there is the undercurrent that W7 might be the same old s**t in a shinier bucket.

All the people I know with vista all waited till SP1 came out before committing their cash, and if M$ is not carefull the same will happen with 7.

The press are already hailing it as a great new product and rightly so, but joe public doesn't pick up a copy of custom PC or other specialist mag.
Joe just wants to know why he should pay premium dollar for this new OS as opposed to waiting a couple of Christmases time, when he plans to upgrade his computer anyway - but that's no good to M$.

How many times have you heard, oh I use vista, Iliked xp, but this is what came bundled on the new computer. We should be hearing I want to use Windows 7, my computer's only a few months old, so i'm not going to change it in a hurry but I want to use 7 right now.

As for the original reason for the thread, I'd be happy to pay up to 150gbp for an OS, any higher (175) and i'd very much resent it. and over 200, i'd probably just go and install my old vista or XP copies again.

 

[Zagadka]

Micro$oft should take a lesson from Wal_Mart. Loose $100 on every copy of Win7 they sell, but make it up in Volume of more Sales :huh:

I was always under the impression that MS made more money from corporate and bulk sales (and the requisite VisualStudio/.NET/Office companions, plus the MSDN etc) anyway. At least, that is how they keep their dominance - very little training. Switching to a Linux or Mac in most offices would require large amounts of money to change networks and re-train staff, as well as license new programs.

 

[12eason]

Micro$oft should take a lesson from Wal_Mart. Loose $100 on every copy of Win7 they sell, but make it up in Volume of more Sales :huh:

The problem is though, they would not lose any money if they lowered the price. The development costs no where near justify these prices. This is just pure greed.

 

[crofurs]

Bigger prices more warez stuff....Microsoft will not make a progress in finance with that price... and I'm sure I will wait them a little bit, to lower the price

 

[Adamd]

Bigger prices more warez stuff....Microsoft will not make a progress in finance with that price... and I'm sure I will wait them a little bit, to lower the price

That's what I was thinking!

Since we can use this RC until March 2010 assuming 7 gets released in mid/late 09 we should see prices fall!

 

[Zagadka]

The problem is though, they would not lose any money if they lowered the price. The development costs no where near justify these prices. This is just pure greed.

Windows is incredibly complex, and there are a lot of issues with 3rd parties... Even at $200-300, it isn't overpriced.

 

[copernicus]

The problem is though, they would not lose any money if they lowered the price. The development costs no where near justify these prices. This is just pure greed.

Running a company for profit is greed?

ha.

 

[12eason]

Taking advantage of a monopoly position by charging extortionate prices is greed, yes.

 

[Shak 10]

might just wait until someone copys it and puts it on a torrent site lol

 

[copernicus]

Taking advantage of a monopoly position by charging extortionate prices is greed, yes.

Dominance is equivalent to monopoly?

 

[jfar]

I have Two PCs and a laptop, so if they charge say $300 for the OP I can put it onto
each machine because MS says you can install it on 3 machines, so that will work out at a hundred dollars a machine which isn't to bad, now for all the people that only have one machine, buy an OEM version and install it on the machine, if you ever have any problems you have always got this site to give you excellent help if needed , and you can install it, and uninstall it, as many times as you like, on that same. machine.
But if you are one of those people that get a new Motherboard every couple of weeks ,then obviously I am not including you in this , because you need to buy the retail package ,sorry.

 

[copernicus]

I'm pretty sure individual licenses with limits of three machines does not mean you can have the license(s) active concurrently.

 

[jfar]

I'm pretty sure individual licenses with limits of three machines does not mean you can have the license(s) active concurrently.

So what does it mean?

 

[jfar]

So if it means that if my machine crashs that I can install it on a new machine up to three times, well then I am sure that you can buy a licence for having more than one machine in the house , which is very common these days, so I will buy one of those licenses.

 

[Martin]

I had only bought XP pro yrs ago, Vista never! all pre installed, but definitively im buying this win seven. Hopefully the give a big discount for university students

 

[12eason]

Dominance is equivalent to monopoly?

They have an effective monopoly in the PC market. There's no debate on that. Until software and hardware manufacturers and forced to release their wares with native linux (or other OS) compatibility, then most consumers have little choice. Why do think that after decades of IBM-compatible PCs being around the only opposition to Windows is open-source? It's because competition is impossible, which is the very definition of a monopoly.

 

[copernicus]

Why should companies be forced (and by who?) to develop programs in a certain manner?

 

[12eason]

Why should any company be forced to do anything?