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My mate was saying that it is not possible that my Graphics card can get lower than the Ambient Temp in my case. Is it possible with good enough cooling that you can cool get your GPU to sit at Temps lower than youe System Case Ambient Temp.??
 

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Not a chance without water cooling or some mad scientist type methods. All air cooled GPU's draw there air from the case. If you could route plumbing to bring in air from outside solely for the gpu it could bring temp's down but I don't believe you will ever be lower than case temp out the back of the GPU.
 

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This is my sysytems temps running idle, i have noticed that none run under the system temp.

Should my GPu be sitting at such a low temp, my mate thinks my GPU sensor is wrong.
 

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GTX 460?? At 68 F has it got power?
 

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Either all the temp sensors are borked, or you're sitting there wearing a heavy sweater with a window open. :p

If it helps any most of the reviews for the GTX 460 had the temps ranging from the mid 30's to mid 40's at idle. Bear in mind some of those reviews, the testing was done out of a case.
 

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My GTX 260 OC hovers around 112 F and when working hard can climb to 125 F+
 

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I think all my sensors are fine, its because it is really cold through here and the fan set up i have is quite good.
 

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Yes it is 100% possible to get temperatures below ambient.
No, you cannot do this with air or water cooling.

You need to use phase change cooling (refrigeration) or something like dry ice cooling.

~Lordbob
 

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GTX 460?? At 68 F has it got power?
This...lol. Your temps are fine...actually they are amazing for the GPU and CPU.


Well my Pc has 9 fans in total and a damn good cpu cooler, my GTX 460 has a nice and decent size fan as well. Some modifications have helped keep my heat down. It also helps when you live in a cold country lol.
 

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Mine this morning.
HAF 932 Case. 3-220mm fans
1290 Rpm GPU fan.
It idled at 30-31*C all summer.

Check the CPU!!! Scythe Mugen-2 does its job also.
Proof of time is the post 14 minutes ago by RMW020.
 
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I also don't believe it's the sensors. CPUID gave me wrong readings on several different rigs I tested it on
BTW my THRM right now is -271C which equals -457F !!!
So I would suggest to cross check with a somewhat more reliable program like FurMark
FurMark: VGA Stress Test, Graphics Card and GPU Stability Test, Burn-in Test, OpenGL Benchmark and GPU Temperature | oZone3D.Net
or Rivatuner
RivaTuner v2.24c download from Guru3D.com
or even Speedfan seems to be a bit more reliable.
SpeedFan Download - Softpedia

It always matters, which specific sensors a program tries to access and what (if any) method they employ to prepare the data for output. So if you get an offset (say your real temp would be 20 C higher than what CPUID tells you you could still use it to monitor you just add the offset to know what would be the real temp.

-DG
 

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Close enough for me. 21*C on both.
 
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Look at the apps running and also my 2 W7 gadgets.

Must be working fine. Thats my conclusion, never run below SYS TEMP.
 

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It's like perpetual motion you may get close but never achieve it. Any electronic device unless it's a peltier cooler will operate at a higher than ambient temp when voltage is applied. The net rise may be low but measurable. In a GPU as much energy as it draws IMO there's not a snowballs chance in Hell that it can operate at or lower than ambient temp. But sensors and measuring techniques are so variable that one needs highly calibrated instruments to know for sure which none of us have to be 100% accurate.......nor is this needed as getting close is all we really need to be safe.
 

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One thing that no one has mentioned that is asking/showing these low temps, what is the room temperature the computer is in?

And linnemeyerhere, well said.
 

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My mate was saying that it is not possible that my Graphics card can get lower than the Ambient Temp in my case. Is it possible with good enough cooling that you can cool get your GPU to sit at Temps lower than youe System Case Ambient Temp.??

Yes.............do this to your gpu core

YouTube - Liquid Nitrogen Cooled PC ;)
 

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What stood out to me was the readings on the +12v.
Is that correct?
 

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EVGA GeForce GTX660 - Driver 352.86
Sound Card
On board Realtek ALC898
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer S271HL
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
#1- Samsung 840 Pro Series
#2- Western Digital WD1002FAEX Sata3 Black
#3- Western Digital WD1002FAEX Sata3 Black
PSU
Corsair CMPSU-850TX-V2 - 850 watt (by Seasonic)
Case
Corsair Obsidian 550D
Cooling
Standard 3 120mm case fans, Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Keyboard
MS KC-0405
Mouse
Intellimouse 5-button
Internet Speed
56 Mbits/Sec (on a good day)
Antivirus
Avast & Malwarebytes
Browser
Firefox
Other Info
Asus DVD - DRW-24B1ST 24X

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1i7-3820GSkill F3-14900CL9Q - 16GBEVGA GeForce GTX660 - Driver 352.86
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Built - Jan 2013
OS
Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1
CPU
i7-3820
Motherboard
Asus P9X79-PRO - Bios 4608
Memory
GSkill F3-14900CL9Q - 16GB
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GeForce GTX660 - Driver 352.86
Sound Card
On board Realtek ALC898
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer S271HL
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
#1- Samsung 840 Pro Series
#2- Western Digital WD1002FAEX Sata3 Black
#3- Western Digital WD1002FAEX Sata3 Black
PSU
Corsair CMPSU-850TX-V2 - 850 watt (by Seasonic)
Case
Corsair Obsidian 550D
Cooling
Standard 3 120mm case fans, Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Keyboard
MS KC-0405
Mouse
Intellimouse 5-button
Internet Speed
56 Mbits/Sec (on a good day)
Antivirus
Avast & Malwarebytes
Browser
Firefox
Other Info
Asus DVD - DRW-24B1ST 24X
What stood out to me was the readings on the +12v.
Is that correct?

If you're referring to the 6.38V in rmw020's screen shot, missing or mis-calibrated sensor. The computer wouldn't even turn on if it was correct.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 7 Ultimate x64FX-8350 @ 4.6 GHz so farADATA XPG V1 Series Black 8GB DDR3 1600Sapphire R9 270x Dual-X
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Me
OS
Win 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
FX-8350 @ 4.6 GHz so far
Motherboard
Asus M5A97 EVO
Memory
ADATA XPG V1 Series Black 8GB DDR3 1600
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire R9 270x Dual-X
Sound Card
Xonar DGX w/ Corsair Vengence 1300
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer S232HL Abid
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
120 GB OCZ Vertex 3
500 GB Seagate 7200.12
PSU
Antec Earthwatts 650W Green
Case
Antec Three Hundred
Cooling
Cooler Master 212 EVO
Keyboard
Logitech G510
Mouse
Logitech G500s
Internet Speed
35000/3000
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