Solved Is my PC constantly too hot?

[Teekz]

Hello, all.

My CPU fan inside my desktop computer is ALWAYS very loud, except for about a second or so when it shows the configuration table before booting Windows. This can be very annoying, as it is really quite loud.

I think this is because my CPU gets too hot. I have CoreTemp running at all times in my taskbar, and an average CPU temperature for me when not doing too much is around 45-55 degrees Celsius. It reaches around 60 degrees Celsius when I'm doing something intense like video rendering, when the CPU runs near 100% for a while.

I think that my fan might slow down if the CPU was cooler, but I can't be sure. I can post any necessary details/information if needed.

Any help is appreciated, I'm going deaf, here.
Tom.

 

[linnemeyerhere]

Teekz,
When was the last time you got inside to have a look around and clean. The cooler and fans must be cleaned at least twice a year and more with hi dust or pets !

 

[Teekz]

Not too long ago. I'd say a month or so ago?

 

[richc46]

60 does not seem too hot to me. I think that will be about normal. Every computer model has different requirments. I would be in your manual or here
http://www.heatsink-guide.com/maxtemp.htm

 

[DMHolt57]

You are within normal ranges with those temps. You can check your bios from the setup screen when you boot and see if there is a setting for 'Active' fan control... or try speedfan from almico.com to control the fans...

 

[Teekz]

You are within normal ranges with those temps. You can check your bios from the setup screen when you boot and see if there is a setting for 'Active' fan control... or try speedfan from almico.com to control the fans...

Speedfan didn't seem to have any effect, although there's a chance I might have misconfigured it.

There is an option in my bios, but the only options. Disabled makes the fan run at full speed all the time, and the other option regulates the speed automatically. It it currently set to automatic, but the fan speed never seems to change.

 

[linnemeyerhere]

You could be ready to pull the stock cooler off and re-apply thermal paste. This makes a good case for a cooling upgrade. If you like your system and plan on keeping or upgrading same then a new cooler and quality case fans will keep temps at there lowest as well as noise.

 

[SledgeDG]

in that case I would toss in an after market heat sink with a bigger fan (bigger is usually slower).
Just make sure you order some good thermal compound as well. Remove the old "gunk" from the cpu with a Q-tip and some rubbing alcohol (Isopropanol) .From the new compound you put a dab in the center of the Cpu (size of a small pea not more. That should do the trick.

If the new heat sink comes with applied compound, and you want to use that, make sure you remove the little piece of clear plastic tape that they slap on to prevent a mess in the box


-DG

 

[rap33042]

I have stock cooling on my AMD Quad and it idles at ~30C; under load it never gets above 50C.

Yes- I think 60C is too hot for a constant idle temperature on that CPU.

How about some snapshots of your SpeedFan settings?

Oh- and if you're using SpeedFan, then I would disable the Auto-fan settings in BIOS as they might be in conflict.

 

[Teekz]

How about some snapshots of your SpeedFan settings?

Oh- and if you're using SpeedFan, then I would disable the Auto-fan settings in BIOS as they might be in conflict.

I uninstalled SpeedFan when it didn't work. Just reinstalled, but if you can recommend any settings to me, it would be appreciated.

I disabled the automatic fan speed, and set it so it runs at 100% all the time, but there is another option called "Cool&Quiet", which I wasn't sure whether or not to disable. Any idea what it is/does?

 

[linnemeyerhere]

Quiet "n" Cool is like a CPU throttle. The throttle then allows the computer to use less power when it's loafing or at idle and then jump to life at full or partial throttle when demand hits instantaneously.

 

[Teekz]

Quiet "n" Cool is like a CPU throttle. The throttle then allows the computer to use less power when it's loafing or at idle and then jump to life at full or partial throttle when demand hits instantaneously.

So, this wouldn't affect my fan speeds directly? Sounds like it'd be best left on "Auto", rather than "Disabled".

 

[SledgeDG]

Same here, rap33042 (right now it's 24-26º C) when I get to 60ºC under full stress (encoding a movie etc.) I know it's time for spring cleaning again.
If he has 60C idle then I assume the heat sink is not mounted correctly or some wires block the fan/airflow.
Which would also explain the loud fan.

What I have never seen with a quad core : Teekz claims he has only ~ 5-10º difference between idle and 100% load
No matter which Quadcore I checked..the temperature difference between idle and 100% was always around 25-30ºC

@Teekz: I would suggest you check the temperature in BIOS just to see how they compare to whatever CoreTemp shows you. (Boot into Bios and let the rig running for a while those BIOS Temps are generally more accurate than 3rd party readings...of course you only get the idle temps there)
Cool 'n' Quiet affects your fan speed to some degree: since the CPU throttles down whenever it's not in use, temp goes down and the automatic reduces the fan speed
so yes...leave it on automatic and use Cool 'n' Quiet


-DG

 

[Teekz]

@Teekz: I would suggest you check the temperature in BIOS just to see how they compare to whatever CoreTemp shows you. (Boot into Bios and let the rig running for a while those BIOS Temps are generally more accurate than 3rd party readings...of course you only get the idle temps there)-DG

I just let it sit for a good 20 mins or so in the BIOS, and these 3 values didn't change at all during the last 10-15 mins of that 20.

Current system temperature: 40C
Current CPU temperature: 50C
Current CPU fan speed: 4753RPM.

So, CoreTemp's readings aren't too far from the truth...

 

[OldMX]

Hello, all.

My CPU fan inside my desktop computer is ALWAYS very loud, except for about a second or so when it shows the configuration table before booting Windows. This can be very annoying, as it is really quite loud.

I think this is because my CPU gets too hot. I have CoreTemp running at all times in my taskbar, and an average CPU temperature for me when not doing too much is around 45-55 degrees Celsius. It reaches around 60 degrees Celsius when I'm doing something intense like video rendering, when the CPU runs near 100% for a while.

I think that my fan might slow down if the CPU was cooler, but I can't be sure. I can post any necessary details/information if needed.

Any help is appreciated, I'm going deaf, here.
Tom.

Since my Athlon X2 6000+ is out of warranty, i decided to lap the cpu and the heatsink (CM Hyper 212), besides shaving the concave out of them, i shaved 5 degrees Celsius idle and 10 degrees Celsius at full load.

 

[rap33042]

Fan RPM at 4753?! Must sound like a vacuum cleaner!
Is your computer levitating?

Case temp at 40C is high- should idle around 30C
CPU Temp at 50C is definitely high.
Granted, the temps are within spec, but I know if it was my computer, I'd be working to lower them ASAP.

The cooler, the better.
Just my feelings on this...

 

[SledgeDG]

OK Teekz...at least you know the temps shown are accurate.
You didn't switch on Cool 'n' Quiet I assume since your temps are still that high.
Ah well...then it's new thermal compound etc. I guess

 

[Teekz]

Fan RPM at 4753?! Must sound like a vacuum cleaner!
Is your computer levitating?

Case temp at 40C is high- should idle around 30C
CPU Temp at 50C is definitely high.
Granted, the temps are within spec, but I know if it was my computer, I'd be working to lower them ASAP.

It does! (Sound like a vacuum cleaner, not levitate. ) that's why I'm here!

OK Teekz...at least you know the temps shown are accurate.
You didn't switch on Cool 'n' Quiet I assume since your temps are still that high.
Ah well...then it's new thermal compound etc. I guess

Hmm.. Is there no other way? D:

Also, any help on properly configuring SpeedFan?

 

[rap33042]

Speedfan Main window:

• Make sure the Automatic fan speed box is checked
• Click configure Button

Configuration window (Temperature):

• If CPU, CASE, Temp3, etc is checked, it will show up on the Main window
• If you select CPU Fan, for instance, then you will be able to set high/low temperatures
• You can change the Titles by selecting a 'name', and hitting the F2 key
• The fans need to be associated with the correct component; that is, you don't want the Case fan speed being adjusted by the temperature of the CPU

Configuration window (Fans):

• Here you can rename the fans by selecting them and hitting F2
• You can also select them and choose to log them

Configuration window (Speeds):

• Here you can set minimum/maximum fan speeds
• Be sure to have the Automatically variated box checked if you want SpeedFan to monitor it

Hope this helps!

 

[Teekz]

WOW! I was apparently wrong about when this computer was actually last cleaned!

The heatsink is absolutely laden with dust! Obviously the cause of my problem!