My Memtest86 (v4.20) results

[FredeGail]

Windows RAM problems and so

Hey guys! I'm new here, great forum!

I wont confuse you too much, let me try to explain it cool.
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First of all, I reinstalled Windows 7 32-bit successfully with a DVD. Windows was running smooth and nice, stuff like that. Windows Updated wanted to install some secure updates (w/e they are called). So, maybe I'm stupid - I just choose the newest one (KB.."newest version"), Windows didn't like that at all. It was trying to apply the update, a few minutes later, Windows crashed with a Blue Screen without a name. After the Blue Screen restarted the computer it gave me 1x boot loop, and afterwards I could open Windows normally. The story continues.
I started Windows, and Windows Update automatic choose all KB secure updates. It restarted as well (no Blue Screen), but still gave me the 1x boot loop. Again I could start Windows normally, but it was quite slow to shut down. Later, I started the computer and it gave me a Memory Blue Screen. Hmm.. I started the computer again with no problems, and now it wanted to install the service pack. Which Microsoft allows it fixing some stuff. For some reason the % counter stopped at 31%. So I was doing an undo on that install. I was just thinking that Windows would abandon it. But hell no. Several of times when I start/shut down my Computer it's trying to apply the service pack update. Is there like a half update on my PC?!

And another question: I'm thinking this is about my RAM, so is the Windows BIOS memtest working correct? Because it is detecting some RAM problems saying; Hardware problems were detected.

Much help appreciated!

 

[Morph666]

I'm not sure about your windows update problem, so I'll leave that to be answered by someone else.

But to answer your second question, you can do a great ramtest with a tool called Memtest86+. Read all about it & download at; Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool then post back with results.

 

[wilywombat]

I suggest you do a "System restore" to a point before you installed the offending update and turn on automatic updates and let seven pick what to install.

 

[FredeGail]

I'm not sure about your windows update problem, so I'll leave that to be answered by someone else.

But to answer your second question, you can do a great ramtest with a tool called Memtest86+. Read all about it & download at; Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool then post back with results.

Thanks for the fast reply. I'll post back the results as soon as I run it. Should I remove one RAM stick and then the other (2 times run) or just both?

I suggest you do a "System restore" to a point before you installed the offending update and turn on automatic updates and let seven pick what to install.

I choose to reinstall the whole Windows 7 again (working cool)

I couldn't even boot up in my old Windows, and I tried with my DVD, but couldn't find any point to restore. As well, new Windows is on my PC. Still, it says it detected Hardware problem.

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I'm not an expert or anything, but I'm sure I can fix it

 

[DeaconFrost]

I'm sure not sure, either, about Windows Update, or even what screens you are seeing with newer version. Windows Update is straightforward. It tells you what updates you need, you click to install them, reboot if necessary, and that's it. You don't have to choose versions, or anything like that.

As for the memory, the suggestion above to run Memtest is spot on. I'd let that run for a few hours at least, overnight if possible, and you'll know if you have bad memory or not.

If it finds errors, than remove all but one stick and repeat the process until you narrow down which stick is bad. If several, or all sticks come up bad, start over using a different memory slot.

 

[FredeGail]

I'm sure not sure, either, about Windows Update, or even what screens you are seeing with newer version. Windows Update is straightforward. It tells you what updates you need, you click to install them, reboot if necessary, and that's it. You don't have to choose versions, or anything like that.

As for the memory, the suggestion above to run Memtest is spot on. I'd let that run for a few hours at least, overnight if possible, and you'll know if you have bad memory or not.

If it finds errors, than remove all but one stick and repeat the process until you narrow down which stick is bad. If several, or all sticks come up bad, start over using a different memory slot.

Yeap, at the moment I just disabled Windows Update so it won't take me into Boot-loops or even BSOD. I'd like to run the memtest.
Thanks for your answer.

Btw, can slow shutdowns cause your memory?

 

[wilywombat]

Sounds like a mem problem. You could try a "Repair Install" from your DVD after booting from it. That way you preserve any of your settings in your accounts?

 

[FredeGail]

Sounds like a mem problem. You could try a "Repair Install" from your DVD after booting from it. That way you preserve any of your settings in your accounts?

I'll try that also.
Sorry for my incorrect settings.

 

[DeaconFrost]

Don't disable it...set it to just notify you when updates are available.

Btw, can slow shutdowns cause your memory?

I'm not sure what you mean by this.

 

[FredeGail]

Don't disable it...set it to just notify you when updates are available.

Btw, can slow shutdowns cause your memory?

I'm not sure what you mean by this.

Okay cool. What I mean is, you know, when you shut down your computer, your Memory is getting a reset. Maybe my RAM is damaged so it could make the applications closing slower when you shut down?

 

[wilywombat]

Slow shutdowns can occur for a variety of reasons including malware etc... before shutting down have you tried Ctrl, Alt, Del and had a look at whats running in the Task Manager?

 

[Morph666]

Thanks for the fast reply. I'll post back the results as soon as I run it. Should I remove one RAM stick and then the other (2 times run) or just both?

You can leave them all in, it won't make any difference. If one of them is broken, memtest86+ will tell you. I suggest you leave it running overnight, make it do at least 10 passes to be sure.

 

[FredeGail]

Slow shutdowns can occur for a variety of reasons including malware etc... before shutting down have you tried Ctrl, Alt, Del and had a look at whats running in the Task Manager?

Aight. Nothing speciel is really running.

Thanks for the fast reply. I'll post back the results as soon as I run it. Should I remove one RAM stick and then the other (2 times run) or just both?

You can leave them all in, it won't make any difference. If one of them is broken, memtest86+ will tell you. I suggest you leave it running overnight, make it do at least 10 passes to be sure.

Aight cool. I'll try and give a respond.


Btw, I the BSOD I had was; MEMORY_MANAGEMENT


Thanks for keeping the topic alive

 

[Morph666]

If Memtest86+ says a'all tests passed' (aka everything is fine, lol) then it might be a BIOS voltage setting. Get into the BIOS and see what it says under Memory Voltage. I've heared of other people solving the MEMORY_MANAGEMENT BSOD by setting Memory Voltage to 1.9.

 

[FredeGail]

If Memtest86+ says a'all tests passed' (aka everything is fine, lol) then it might be a BIOS voltage setting. Get into the BIOS and see what it says under Memory Voltage. I've heared of other people solving the MEMORY_MANAGEMENT BSOD by setting Memory Voltage to 1.9.

Would you recommend me to set the setting right now to see how it is acting? Could be quite interesting.

Btw, quite fun "problem", I checked for updates in Win Updates, and some of the many Important Secure Updates I have, isn't crossed. Like a couple of them ain't crossed, and the rest is. And even some of the other Secure Updates is even in optional. Which one to choose? , also I forgot to mention that, some of the listing updates is "Upgrade for Windows7" I think they were called. Like 6 of them. And I'm a bit scared to run into a boot-loop or Blue screen experience again. I guess I'm going to install them slowly (one by one), not to run in problems. Or anything else you would like to recommend?

 

[FliGi7]

If Memtest86+ says a'all tests passed' (aka everything is fine, lol) then it might be a BIOS voltage setting. Get into the BIOS and see what it says under Memory Voltage. I've heared of other people solving the MEMORY_MANAGEMENT BSOD by setting Memory Voltage to 1.9.

No, don't go changing memory voltages without reason. It might have worked for someone by sheer luck that their memory wasn't running at the right voltage, but it's certainly not something you just try to see if it fixes something.

Wait and see what memtest shows you and go from there.

 

[FredeGail]

If Memtest86+ says a'all tests passed' (aka everything is fine, lol) then it might be a BIOS voltage setting. Get into the BIOS and see what it says under Memory Voltage. I've heared of other people solving the MEMORY_MANAGEMENT BSOD by setting Memory Voltage to 1.9.

No, don't go changing memory voltages without reason. It might have worked for someone by sheer luck that their memory wasn't running at the right voltage, but it's certainly not something you just try to see if it fixes something.

Wait and see what memtest shows you and go from there.

Aight. Speaking about Windows Update, should I just download the "crossed" ones in Important Updates?

 

[FredeGail]

Aight. I updated, and it all went cool. Just until I could start Windows this Thursday. It wasn't frozen, it was just stuck there saying "Starting Windows". I rebooted and got into Windows successful.

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Okay! New observation! I won't make a 3rd post.. So I'll just edit as well.

At the moment, I'm only running with one RAM stick (the RAM whose made my Windows stuck at Start-up). I plugged in the other stick, and Windows boot-looped. And even, my motherboard start-up screen was stuck.
Looks like both RAM sticks is nuts. I might buy some new ones.
I can't see other faulty hardware possibilities. Of course, there's running electricities through it, and it can be screwed easily.

 

[wilywombat]

You have checked that are plugged into the correct sockets? You may need to insert them into alternate sockets?

 

[FredeGail]

You have checked that are plugged into the correct sockets? You may need to insert them into alternate sockets?

Ah, both RAM is in the black socket. (there's black and yellow). In my ASUS Motherboard manual, it says that you can just pick any empty socket available. But sounds interesting, maybe I should choose:

• 1x black
• 1x yellow