Disabling Ping Response or even stealth it

[Mike Connor]

May I call you Mike? Mike, ipconfig /all shows the 192.168.0.1. If you are saying that this address is retrieved from the actual router at the time of the command then I don't know what. I am going to have to try a reset again.
If everyone who is monitoring this post could cross their respective fingers, I may be back with good new.
Thank all for your contributions and advice!
Glenn

Of course!

If you are actually using that router, then that is the router address.

Regards....Mike Connor

 

[glennc]

May I call you Mike? Mike, ipconfig /all shows the 192.168.0.1. If you are saying that this address is retrieved from the actual router at the time of the command then I don't know what. I am going to have to try a reset again.
If everyone who is monitoring this post could cross their respective fingers, I may be back with good new.
Thank all for your contributions and advice!
Glenn

Of course!

If you are actually using that router, then that is the router address.


Regards....Mike Connor

Mike,
Thanks. Going to get some ibuprofen and coffee and do the reset thing. I think I can, I think I can!! Take care.
Glenn

 

[Mike Connor]

Mike,
Thanks. Going to get some ibuprofen and coffee and do the reset thing. I think I can, I think I can!! Take care.
Glenn

My pleasure. Good luck! Let us know how you get on.

Regards....Mike Connor

 

[glennc]

Mike,
Thanks. Going to get some ibuprofen and coffee and do the reset thing. I think I can, I think I can!! Take care.
Glenn

My pleasure. Good luck! Let us know how you get on.

Regards....Mike Connor

Howdy Mike,
Well by a circuitous route, I am back where I was. Did the reset, attached computer to router and ipconfig & got 192.168.1.1. Pinged it and fine. Looked at Network display and it showed the WRT120N router and a new Wireless Router (WFA). The new router needed to be configured, the original WRT had the correct "1.1" address in it. Couldn't log onto it with the browser. Stopped Commodo and tried again. Noticed in Commodo I now had 2 networks, the original and the new Local Network #1. Shut all down connected cables and booted. No internet connectivity. Tried getting on "1.1" and it displayed the logon but would not accept any combination of default or new passwords.
So I ran Cisco Network Magic and it eventually connected allowing me to enter a password, SSID and WPA2 password. Tried some of the features of this program and it said I was not connected to the internet, although I was. IIRC I went to the Network display and the 2nd router that had installed itself had disappeared. I checked the regular WRT120N router and it now had 192.168.0.1 as its default setup page. Tried logging onto that, absolutely no success. ipconfig /all showed the "0.1" address as my default gateway. If it helps I am using ATT DSL which has it's own configuration address and setup program. Still have no computers to try to contact wirelessly.
In Network under the pop up for WRT120N router it said to enable it, which I tried, even though I was online and it failed to connect. I am ready to take a hammer or hacksaw or boiling oil to the router and buy another. Is it possible since this was a refurbished unit, long out of the limited warranty, that it has taken some kind of dump? I personally feel that I am doing something wrong or W7 is. I wouldn't even administrating through the W7 router controls.
I've deleted Cisco Network Manager and killed all its processes, BTW. What do you think, boiling oil or hammer? Thanks for any opinions or suggestions.
Glenn

 

[AmbrosialPariah]

Hello Mike Connors,
I think I am really messed up. Okay quick update, found that in Network it shows your router.

Can you point me in a general way toward how success. I now can ping the wrong address "0.1" and the browser will pop up a logon screen at the wrong address (note it says its a WRT120N") but the default and the password that the Network Magic installation program set as a text file on my desktop, do not work.
Manically Yours
Glenn

The only way to get into the router if you don't know the address it is set to, is to reset it to factory defaults, as previously described.

There is no other way.

If you are using that router, then the correct address is stored on your machine. You can get that address using this;

Microsoft Corporation

Regards....Mike Connor

May I call you Mike? Mike, ipconfig /all shows the 192.168.0.1. If you are saying that this address is retrieved from the actual router at the time of the command then I don't know what. I am going to have to try a reset again.
If everyone who is monitoring this post could cross their respective fingers, I may be back with good new.
Thank all for your contributions and advice!
Glenn

Just an FYI when you use IPCONFIG this grabs information stored on your computer. it is when you start using ipconfig /release * [release all addresses for all adapters that use DHCP] and ipconfig /renew * [go talk to DHCP server and get an IP address for all adapters that are set to use DHCP] that your computer will "talk" [more apropriately the DHCP server that is part of your routers software but I digress] to the router and attempt to get a new address [or drop the one it has per the command you choose].
Of course if you have gone in to the adapter settings and specified an IP address manually you will do nothing if you use ipconfig /renew * and IPCONFIG will list all the same info in either case you just have to manually change it yourself with static IP.


It sounds like here you have a static IP go to control panel and open your network adapters [either through networking and sharing in Win 7] or network in WinXP. You will need to edit the adapter [right click and choose properties from adapters window] single click the TCP/IP listing in small window and click properties BUTTON here in Win 7 make sure you are editting the IPv4 settings and update your gateway info with the right stuff. OR check both boxes for DHCP enable exit the adapter windows to save settings and back at the command prompt [black and white window type [Both 7 and XP] ipconfig /renew * and wait [may look stuck but it is waiting for answer from your router and this may take a min be patient]. Now once you see the text it should have different values for the gateway [unless it uses the same address as your old router did which is entirely possible] and your IPV4 address should change [and if it starts with 169. that is Windows "Alternate config" for when the computer does not find a DHCP server which either means A your router is OFF, B the DHCP server in the router could be turned off, or most likely your router is not fully working [or the network cable is the first place I always check FIRST as a $15 cable beats a $100 router any day [unless you rent from ISP then call them ask for a new one and you should get a new network cable with it if you want to go the totally free route.
Also YOUR IP WILL ALWAYS SHOW UNDER IPCONFIG please don't think that if you kill ping or do anything else that the information here will not be available it is ALWAYS there.

 

[AmbrosialPariah]

Mike,
Thanks. Going to get some ibuprofen and coffee and do the reset thing. I think I can, I think I can!! Take care.
Glenn

My pleasure. Good luck! Let us know how you get on.

Regards....Mike Connor

Howdy Mike,
Well by a circuitous route, I am back where I was. Did the reset, attached computer to router and ipconfig & got 192.168.1.1. Pinged it and fine. Looked at Network display and it showed the WRT120N router and a new Wireless Router (WFA). The new router needed to be configured, the original WRT had the correct "1.1" address in it. Couldn't log onto it with the browser. Stopped Commodo and tried again. Noticed in Commodo I now had 2 networks, the original and the new Local Network #1. Shut all down connected cables and booted. No internet connectivity. Tried getting on "1.1" and it displayed the logon but would not accept any combination of default or new passwords.
So I ran Cisco Network Magic and it eventually connected allowing me to enter a password, SSID and WPA2 password. Tried some of the features of this program and it said I was not connected to the internet, although I was. IIRC I went to the Network display and the 2nd router that had installed itself had disappeared. I checked the regular WRT120N router and it now had 192.168.0.1 as its default setup page. Tried logging onto that, absolutely no success. ipconfig /all showed the "0.1" address as my default gateway. If it helps I am using ATT DSL which has it's own configuration address and setup program. Still have no computers to try to contact wirelessly.
In Network under the pop up for WRT120N router it said to enable it, which I tried, even though I was online and it failed to connect. I am ready to take a hammer or hacksaw or boiling oil to the router and buy another. Is it possible since this was a refurbished unit, long out of the limited warranty, that it has taken some kind of dump? I personally feel that I am doing something wrong or W7 is. I wouldn't even administrating through the W7 router controls.
I've deleted Cisco Network Manager and killed all its processes, BTW. What do you think, boiling oil or hammer? Thanks for any opinions or suggestions.
Glenn

Keep in mind that you could still have network access with a different IP but if it is not the class C [ie. 192.1681.xxx is class c so if you change it to 192.168.0.xx on your computer but gateway was still 192.168.1.xxx you will still have basic surfing, but will be unable to seee any comps or the router setup page sue to you being utside its Class C LAN scope. I would just be sure to change your TCP/IP V4 Setting under adapter properties to DHCP for both the upper address portion and lower DNS portion. This will reach out and get the config info from the router [once connected you will need to click on adapter by clock and click your network SSID [wireless name] and enter the password. Even if it was the same before due to the addrtessing change your computer [and Comodo will see it as something new [hence Local Netowrk #1 and will be super restricted [most apps and windows default to public network settings incase you connected away from home and this disables DNS, Homegroup and a host of other things. Also, if you ae only connecting at home a firewall is completely superfluous. Firewalls are only there to stop apps and computers from communicating on different ports. If you are behind a firewall unless you port forward any apps [ESPECIALLY remote control ones cant really use NAT [and must have ports forwarded to accept incoming connects [UNLESS you click something on your end like with remote desktop the session is suggested by the host by when NAT runs in they actually send your comp a message and then it in turn reaches out and starts the session so NAT can work and it can connect. unless you port forward a port being used by a bot or other virus it cant do much anyways and if you install and use Peerguardian instead it filters everything based on IPs which means you dont have to allow or deny programs as they start it is faster [still uses resources but not nearly as many as a firewall] and any and all comms with botnets and hackers [more aptly crackers] can be done by setting it to use the Bogon and DShield lists which would mean even if a bot or virus gets on your machine and tries to connect somewhere it cant as the IP address of the connection is denied [trust me has protected me through my many activities from prying eyes I owe it my freedoms prolly]. In any case just a suggestion of something you could check out and yes you can run it with a firewall when you want so if you want to check it out without changing anything you can.

 

[glennc]

Hello AmbroisalPariah,
I must say I didn't understand most of what you just typed. I sure it was specific and well thought out, I am just now cognizant of most of the terms or procedures you've indicated. Sorry. I think a hammer might be easier!
Thanks or your time and help!
Glenn

My pleasure. Good luck! Let us know how you get on.

Regards....Mike Connor

Howdy Mike,
Well by a circuitous route, I am back where I was. Did the reset, attached computer to router and ipconfig & got 192.168.1.1. Pinged it and fine. Looked at Network display and it showed the WRT120N router and a new Wireless Router (WFA). The new router needed to be configured, the original WRT had the correct "1.1" address in it. Couldn't log onto it with the browser. Stopped Commodo and tried again. Noticed in Commodo I now had 2 networks, the original and the new Local Network #1. Shut all down connected cables and booted. No internet connectivity. Tried getting on "1.1" and it displayed the logon but would not accept any combination of default or new passwords.
So I ran Cisco Network Magic and it eventually connected allowing me to enter a password, SSID and WPA2 password. Tried some of the features of this program and it said I was not connected to the internet, although I was. IIRC I went to the Network display and the 2nd router that had installed itself had disappeared. I checked the regular WRT120N router and it now had 192.168.0.1 as its default setup page. Tried logging onto that, absolutely no success. ipconfig /all showed the "0.1" address as my default gateway. If it helps I am using ATT DSL which has it's own configuration address and setup program. Still have no computers to try to contact wirelessly.
In Network under the pop up for WRT120N router it said to enable it, which I tried, even though I was online and it failed to connect. I am ready to take a hammer or hacksaw or boiling oil to the router and buy another. Is it possible since this was a refurbished unit, long out of the limited warranty, that it has taken some kind of dump? I personally feel that I am doing something wrong or W7 is. I wouldn't even administrating through the W7 router controls.
I've deleted Cisco Network Manager and killed all its processes, BTW. What do you think, boiling oil or hammer? Thanks for any opinions or suggestions.
Glenn

Keep in mind that you could still have network access with a different IP but if it is not the class C [ie. 192.1681.xxx is class c so if you change it to 192.168.0.xx on your computer but gateway was still 192.168.1.xxx you will still have basic surfing, but will be unable to seee any comps or the router setup page sue to you being utside its Class C LAN scope. I would just be sure to change your TCP/IP V4 Setting under adapter properties to DHCP for both the upper address portion and lower DNS portion. This will reach out and get the config info from the router [once connected you will need to click on adapter by clock and click your network SSID [wireless name] and enter the password. Even if it was the same before due to the addrtessing change your computer [and Comodo will see it as something new [hence Local Netowrk #1 and will be super restricted [most apps and windows default to public network settings incase you connected away from home and this disables DNS, Homegroup and a host of other things. Also, if you ae only connecting at home a firewall is completely superfluous. Firewalls are only there to stop apps and computers from communicating on different ports. If you are behind a firewall unless you port forward any apps [ESPECIALLY remote control ones cant really use NAT [and must have ports forwarded to accept incoming connects [UNLESS you click something on your end like with remote desktop the session is suggested by the host by when NAT runs in they actually send your comp a message and then it in turn reaches out and starts the session so NAT can work and it can connect. unless you port forward a port being used by a bot or other virus it cant do much anyways and if you install and use Peerguardian instead it filters everything based on IPs which means you dont have to allow or deny programs as they start it is faster [still uses resources but not nearly as many as a firewall] and any and all comms with botnets and hackers [more aptly crackers] can be done by setting it to use the Bogon and DShield lists which would mean even if a bot or virus gets on your machine and tries to connect somewhere it cant as the IP address of the connection is denied [trust me has protected me through my many activities from prying eyes I owe it my freedoms prolly]. In any case just a suggestion of something you could check out and yes you can run it with a firewall when you want so if you want to check it out without changing anything you can.

 

[Mike Connor]

The addresses on your machine are always there. They are not changed when you issue an ipconfig. But if the router works, then it must be using that address. Using the wrong address simply wont work.

Well, I can't think of anything else to try. Something odd is going on obviously, but I have no idea what. Sorry, but I have no idea how to solve the problem(s). I just don't know what is causing them.

Regards....Mike Connor

 

[AmbrosialPariah]

Hello AmbroisalPariah,
I must say I didn't understand most of what you just typed. I sure it was specific and well thought out, I am just now cognizant of most of the terms or procedures you've indicated. Sorry. I think a hammer might be easier!
Thanks or your time and help!
Glenn

Howdy Mike,
Well by a circuitous route, I am back where I was. Did the reset, attached computer to router and ipconfig & got 192.168.1.1. Pinged it and fine. Looked at Network display and it showed the WRT120N router and a new Wireless Router (WFA). The new router needed to be configured, the original WRT had the correct "1.1" address in it. Couldn't log onto it with the browser. Stopped Commodo and tried again. Noticed in Commodo I now had 2 networks, the original and the new Local Network #1. Shut all down connected cables and booted. No internet connectivity. Tried getting on "1.1" and it displayed the logon but would not accept any combination of default or new passwords.
So I ran Cisco Network Magic and it eventually connected allowing me to enter a password, SSID and WPA2 password. Tried some of the features of this program and it said I was not connected to the internet, although I was. IIRC I went to the Network display and the 2nd router that had installed itself had disappeared. I checked the regular WRT120N router and it now had 192.168.0.1 as its default setup page. Tried logging onto that, absolutely no success. ipconfig /all showed the "0.1" address as my default gateway. If it helps I am using ATT DSL which has it's own configuration address and setup program. Still have no computers to try to contact wirelessly.
In Network under the pop up for WRT120N router it said to enable it, which I tried, even though I was online and it failed to connect. I am ready to take a hammer or hacksaw or boiling oil to the router and buy another. Is it possible since this was a refurbished unit, long out of the limited warranty, that it has taken some kind of dump? I personally feel that I am doing something wrong or W7 is. I wouldn't even administrating through the W7 router controls.
I've deleted Cisco Network Manager and killed all its processes, BTW. What do you think, boiling oil or hammer? Thanks for any opinions or suggestions.
Glenn

Keep in mind that you could still have network access with a different IP but if it is not the class C [ie. 192.1681.xxx is class c so if you change it to 192.168.0.xx on your computer but gateway was still 192.168.1.xxx you will still have basic surfing, but will be unable to seee any comps or the router setup page sue to you being utside its Class C LAN scope. I would just be sure to change your TCP/IP V4 Setting under adapter properties to DHCP for both the upper address portion and lower DNS portion. This will reach out and get the config info from the router [once connected you will need to click on adapter by clock and click your network SSID [wireless name] and enter the password. Even if it was the same before due to the addrtessing change your computer [and Comodo will see it as something new [hence Local Netowrk #1 and will be super restricted [most apps and windows default to public network settings incase you connected away from home and this disables DNS, Homegroup and a host of other things. Also, if you ae only connecting at home a firewall is completely superfluous. Firewalls are only there to stop apps and computers from communicating on different ports. If you are behind a firewall unless you port forward any apps [ESPECIALLY remote control ones cant really use NAT [and must have ports forwarded to accept incoming connects [UNLESS you click something on your end like with remote desktop the session is suggested by the host by when NAT runs in they actually send your comp a message and then it in turn reaches out and starts the session so NAT can work and it can connect. unless you port forward a port being used by a bot or other virus it cant do much anyways and if you install and use Peerguardian instead it filters everything based on IPs which means you dont have to allow or deny programs as they start it is faster [still uses resources but not nearly as many as a firewall] and any and all comms with botnets and hackers [more aptly crackers] can be done by setting it to use the Bogon and DShield lists which would mean even if a bot or virus gets on your machine and tries to connect somewhere it cant as the IP address of the connection is denied [trust me has protected me through my many activities from prying eyes I owe it my freedoms prolly]. In any case just a suggestion of something you could check out and yes you can run it with a firewall when you want so if you want to check it out without changing anything you can.

The basics are you will be able to surf the net and not much else if comp address is 192.168.0.x and the router is 192.168.1.x. Just said to open open up TCP/IP properties and make sure to set it all to DHCP and once done open command prompt [hold windows key tap R, type cmd <hit enter>, type ipconfig /renew * <hit enter> and wait for the screen to show you text again. Also if your computers IPv4 address starts with 169. your router setup needs to be checked. Lastly when all else fails try a different cable [if you have one] and a firmware upgrade [see router manual or their support site for the file and directions and that may help as well. Also PM me and tell me where you are not understanding me and I would be happy to try and break it down for you as I love helping others and I have tons of knowledge to give out.

 

[glennc]

Hello AmbroisalPariah,
I must say I didn't understand most of what you just typed. I sure it was specific and well thought out, I am just now cognizant of most of the terms or procedures you've indicated. Sorry. I think a hammer might be easier!
Thanks or your time and help!
Glenn

Keep in mind that you could still have network access with a different IP but if it is not the class C [ie. 192.1681.xxx is class c so if you change it to 192.168.0.xx on your computer but gateway was still 192.168.1.xxx you will still have basic surfing, but will be unable to seee any comps or the router setup page sue to you being utside its Class C LAN scope. I would just be sure to change your TCP/IP V4 Setting under adapter properties to DHCP for both the upper address portion and lower DNS portion. This will reach out and get the config info from the router [once connected you will need to click on adapter by clock and click your network SSID [wireless name] and enter the password. Even if it was the same before due to the addrtessing change your computer [and Comodo will see it as something new [hence Local Netowrk #1 and will be super restricted [most apps and windows default to public network settings incase you connected away from home and this disables DNS, Homegroup and a host of other things. Also, if you ae only connecting at home a firewall is completely superfluous. Firewalls are only there to stop apps and computers from communicating on different ports. If you are behind a firewall unless you port forward any apps [ESPECIALLY remote control ones cant really use NAT [and must have ports forwarded to accept incoming connects [UNLESS you click something on your end like with remote desktop the session is suggested by the host by when NAT runs in they actually send your comp a message and then it in turn reaches out and starts the session so NAT can work and it can connect. unless you port forward a port being used by a bot or other virus it cant do much anyways and if you install and use Peerguardian instead it filters everything based on IPs which means you dont have to allow or deny programs as they start it is faster [still uses resources but not nearly as many as a firewall] and any and all comms with botnets and hackers [more aptly crackers] can be done by setting it to use the Bogon and DShield lists which would mean even if a bot or virus gets on your machine and tries to connect somewhere it cant as the IP address of the connection is denied [trust me has protected me through my many activities from prying eyes I owe it my freedoms prolly]. In any case just a suggestion of something you could check out and yes you can run it with a firewall when you want so if you want to check it out without changing anything you can.

The basics are you will be able to surf the net and not much else if comp address is 192.168.0.x and the router is 192.168.1.x. Just said to open open up TCP/IP properties and make sure to set it all to DHCP and once done open command prompt [hold windows key tap R, type cmd <hit enter>, type ipconfig /renew * <hit enter> and wait for the screen to show you text again. Also if your computers IPv4 address starts with 169. your router setup needs to be checked. Lastly when all else fails try a different cable [if you have one] and a firmware upgrade [see router manual or their support site for the file and directions and that may help as well. Also PM me and tell me where you are not understanding me and I would be happy to try and break it down for you as I love helping others and I have tons of knowledge to give out.

Sent message. Thanks for any help!
Glenn

 

[glennc]

New router, no problems! A lot more settings I don't understand but maybe I'll get specific in a seperate thread!!
Thanks Gentlemen
Glenn

 

[jobeard]

"suppose you have multiple machines and you want to know if there is machine on the network with given IP. That's when you use ping." hmm poor policy, as system 1.2.3.4 may be powered off and thus not respond to ping and thus allow a dupicate manual assignment. A better process is to make all client systems use DHCP and thus duplicates will be avoided.
Server systems (aka DC, DNS, AD, Exchange) should be fixed/static addresses AND not be within the DHCP range.