New Laptop - Opinions Needed

KSR

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Well I got promised a job and I'm going to start working in about 2-3 weeks and save my money to buy a new laptop and I'd like some opinions on what I should be looking for in a laptop, for I don't know much about specs so maybe some of you can help:


  • I am hoping for a decently sized screen, maybe around 17 inches and I definitely want it to be Windows 7.
  • I am a high school student, going into 11th grade and I will be using this laptop for both school work as well as personal stuff. I will surely be buying a copy of Microsoft Office for this laptop once I get it (I can't get used to Works).
  • I want a processor that can have the capability of running most game emulators: GBA, DS, Dreamcast, N64 but I will not play any top-grade games like Crisis 2. I also want to be able to play Minecraft without crashing and needs to be snappy in menus. What type of processor should I be looking for?
  • Also, I've had a problem with viruses on this laptop and I'd like to buy a good protection for the new one. Would you recommend a specific name of Virus Protection that I would be able to find online or in a store like Office Depot?
  • I know I want about a 150GB harddrive, for storing photos, videos, music, and lots of documents.
Other programs I will be buying and running here (if that matters): Photoshop, iTunes, MS Office, Game Emulators, ooVoo, and MSN.

So, if you can give me any idea of a processor I should use for the above mentioned tasks? I want it to be able to run these without a problem. I also need a Virus Protection tips.
 

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OS
Windows 7 Home Premium
What is your absolute upper price limit for the laptop itself? I'm not including any other applications/programs that you are going to buy here, I just want a figure for the laptop itself.

In the meantime, have a look at this selection on Amazon. I have narrowed it down to W7 and a screen size of 16 - 17.9 inches. Amazon.com: Electronics > Computers & Accessories > Laptops > Windows 7 > 16 to 17.9 Inches

As regards Virus Protection, many of us (myself included) use Avast!, which is easy to configure and use and, best of all, is totally free if you choose the Free Antivirus download here: avast! Free Antivirus - Download Software for Virus Protection
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dwarf Dwf/11/2012 r09/2013
OS
Windows 8.1 Pro RTM x64
CPU
Intel Core-i5-3570K 4-core @ 3.4GHz (Ivy Bridge) (OC 4.4GHz)
Motherboard
ASRock Z77 Extreme4-M
Memory
4 x 4GB DDR3-1600 Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B (16GB)
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GeForce GTX770 Gaming OC 2GB
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition on board solution (ALC 898)
Monitor(s) Displays
ViewSonic VA1912w Widescreen (VGA)
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Hard Drives
OCZ Agility 3 SSD 120GB SATA III x2 (RAID 0)
Samsung HD501LJ 500GB SATA II x2
Hitachi HDS721010CLA332 1TB SATA II
Iomega 1.5TB Ext USB 2.0
WD 2.0TB Ext USB 3.0
PSU
XFX Pro Series 850W Semi-Modular
Case
Gigabyte IF233
Cooling
1 x 120mm Front Inlet 1 x 120mm Rear Exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 3000 (USB)
Mouse
Microsoft Comfort Mouse 3000 for Business (USB)
Internet Speed
NetGear DG834Gv3 ADSL Modem/Router (Ethernet) ~4.0 Mb/s (O2)
Antivirus
Avast! 8.0.1497
Browser
IE 11
Other Info
Optical Drive: HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS30 SATA Bluray
Lexmark S305 Printer/Scanner/Copier (USB)
WEI Score: 8.1/8.1/8.5/8.5/8.25
Asus Eee PC 1011PX Netbook (Windows 7 x86 Starter)
Welcome KSR to the windows 7 forums.

1. It is a good idea to think thru like you have on what you want your new laptop to be able to do.
2. Money is the bottom line, if your budget can handle a couple of grand.
3. I recommend a i7 Intel processor with a minimum of 4 gigs of ram.
4. A good video card with a gig of video ram.
5. I have a toshiba with two hard disks, both SSD's which does make it fast. If the laptop has an option for two hard disks, then I would opt for that as hard disks are getting faster and cheaper for laptops with the prices on the SSD drives coming down each day. I would recommend more hard disk space than you talked about. If your budget supports it, I would recommend good sized SSD drives or at least a 7200rpm 500Gig or larger standard hard disk.
6. Windows 7 professional should be enough.
7. I have been very satisfied with the speed and reliability of Toshiba laptops for over 10 years.

Rich
 

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Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Laptop Qosimo X870
OS
Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core I7
Motherboard
Toshiba Qosmio
Memory
16 Gigs
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670M
Monitor(s) Displays
17.7" laptop
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
256 Gig SanDisk SSD for C
256 Gig Intel SSD for D
Internet Speed
50/25 FIOS
Antivirus
Vipre (all you can eat for 10 machines)
Browser
IE and FF
Other Info
I have dos 6.22, wfwg 3.11, win98, 2000 and xp VHD's available for testing. MS's Virtual PC works great.
If the laptop has a dvi port you can toss in a huge tv to go along with it later. Win7 x64 Home, 2G RAM, 320G HDD, 15" screen, Compaq, 347.00 at Walmart. Upgraded to 4G Ram, Win7 Ultimate x64, does everything I need at speed. MSOffice Home/Student Included, Upgraded to Office 2010 Home/Business. MIFI 2200 from Verizon to complete and can connect anywhere securely! Good luck on the school year and Job!
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self Built
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Pentium IV
Motherboard
P4M900-M7 Biostar
Memory
4G
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA Geforce 9500 GT
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer V233H
Hard Drives
2 T
1 T
500G
80G
PSU
430W Thermaltake
Case
Generic
Cooling
Thermaltake
Your budget will play an important part in your searching for a good laptop.
Just my opinion about a 17" is the weight factor. Lugging around a heavy laptop will not be fun.
Check out Sam's Club, Costco and even Staples as there return policies are 30-90 days no re-stock fee.
I have purchased a Return to Stock(price was discounted) desktop and laptop from both Sams and Costco.

Many members use free MSE AV, Avast along with Windows Firewall for virus protection.
We also download the free MBAM and SAS which scan for spyware.
Congrats on getting a job!
THW
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP M9077c
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU
Intel(R)Core(TM)2 quad [email protected] 2.39GHz
Motherboard
ASUSeK
Memory
6GB DDR2 6400
Graphics Card(s)
GeForce 8500/512MB
Sound Card
Realtek High Def Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
HP w2408 LCD 24" widescreen
Screen Resolution
1920x1200
Cooling
6 pack of Bud
Keyboard
MS wireless Inteli
Mouse
MS wireless Inteli
I don't disagree with any of the suggestions made so far. I would suggest if you are going to play games, get a dedicated graphics card. As far as AV. I use MSE and MBAM, but the best AV is for you to be careful about where you go and what you download. I also think you will need a bigger hard drive. Money is going to be the deciding factor. I agree with buying from somewhere that has a good return policy and if you take your time and shop around, you will eventually find a laptop that suits your needs at a price you can affoard.
 

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    ALWAYS UNDER CONSTRUCTION
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    Asus X570 Crosshair Viii Hero
    Memory
    32GB G Skill DDR4-3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 3080 FTW 3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    On Board/Sennheiser PC37X Headset
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 X Asus 27"
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    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2 X 1 TB NVME drives
    PSU
    EVGA 850
    Case
    Phanteks Eclipse P400A
    Cooling
    EVGA 280 AIO
    Keyboard
    Logitech G510s/ Logitech G13
    Mouse
    Logitech G502
    Internet Speed
    24/1
    Antivirus
    ESET/MBAM Pro/SAS Pro
    Browser
    Chrome/ Firefox/ Edge
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell 16 Plus
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Intel Ultra 9 288V
    Memory
    32 GB LPDDR5X 8533
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" Mini-LED HDR600 Touch 90 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    2560X1600
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME
I personally don't think there's such a thing as a good gaming notebook - despite what some notebook marketing weenies would have us believe. Notebooks by their very nature are powerful computers jammed into tiny, proprietary boxes. Gaming is about the most demanding task we can ask of our computers, yet notebooks are already notorious for heat related problems because notebook cases simply do not have the space to provide adequate fan support or air flow through the case. Plus they are nearly impossible for the normal user to keep them clean of heat trapping dust.

Therefore, I recommend a game console or gaming PC for gaming and your notebook for important stuff, like homework.

In any event, get a Notebook Cooling Pad w/ext. power supply. I prefer those with their own external power supplies so you don’t put more strain on the notebook, causing it to generate even more heat.

I've been using MSE and Windows Firewall on all my systems since migrating to Windows 7 in Oct '09 with NO regrets. I also use MBAM for supplement scanning, but so far, it has found nothing.

I also like SAS, but worry it's recent buyout (Support.com Acquires SAS) will result in it being ruined - as has happened to so many good programs before it.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
BrightWorks Systems B4
OS
Windows 7 Profession 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core i7-860 Quad
Motherboard
Gigabyte P55-UD4P
Memory
Mushkin 4x2Gb PC12800
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte GTX260 896Mb
Sound Card
Integrated 7.1 HD Dolby
Monitor(s) Displays
2 Samsung 2220wm-HAS 22"
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050 | 1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
WD HE 1Tb
PSU
Corsair TX-750W
Case
Ultra M998
Cooling
OEM
Keyboard
MS Wireless Comfort 5000
Mouse
MS Wireless 5000
Internet Speed
Cable and pretty darn fast
Sounds like a Fusion based laptop would be perfect for you. The APU's have very strong graphics capability, and very good battery life. Although AMD hasn't quite released the more performance oriented chips yet, most are only dual core with Radeon 6000 series Gpu's.

The Cpu side isn't as strong as Intel, but the overall compute power is superior because of the graphics solution. This combined with industry leading power consumption, well worth a look. You could start here:

The AMD Fusion
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Customized
OS
Windows 7 Professional x64
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition
Motherboard
OEM 785G
Memory
8GB DDR3 1333Mhz Dual Channel
Graphics Card(s)
PNY Nvidia GeForce GTX 560Ti OC XLR8 @ 1025/2050Mhz
Sound Card
Onboard 5.1
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer S232HL LED
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
1TB 5,400Rpm Green
PSU
Thermaltake Black Widow 850w Modular Quad Rail
Case
HP OEM for now with heavy modding for decent cooling
Cooling
Cpu: Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO CPU Cooler | 3X 120mm
Keyboard
Logitech G19
Mouse
Logitech G500
Internet Speed
20MB/5MB
Other Info
Waiting for Ivy Bridge
As Digerati says, there is no laptop that is good at playing games. But if you want a halfway decent setup with an i7 CPU and a 1GB GPU, you are looking at around $1000. An SSD would come on top.

Large screen is nice, but a 17" is heavy. So if you want to lug it around, that may be a showstopper. On the other hand there are some 17" that have 2 disk bays. That would be important if you consider an SSD.

Do yourself a favor and do not buy from Walmart (as one poster suggested). They get junk especially manufactured for them. Also stay away from E-Machines, Acer and Compac. The ones to recommend are Sony (super service), Toshiba (good quality) and to a certain extend Gateway (although they are part of Acer and since then their sevice went downhill. But their laptops are OK).
 

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HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
OS
Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU
from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
As Digerati says, there is no laptop that is good at playing games. But if you want a halfway decent setup with an i7 CPU and a 1GB GPU, you are looking at around $1000. An SSD would come on top.

Large screen is nice, but a 17" is heavy. So if you want to lug it around, that may be a showstopper. On the other hand there are some 17" that have 2 disk bays. That would be important if you consider an SSD.

Do yourself a favor and do not buy from Walmart (as one poster suggested). They get junk especially manufactured for them. Also stay away from E-Machines, Acer and Compac. The ones to recommend are Sony (super service), Toshiba (good quality) and to a certain extend Gateway (although they are part of Acer and since then their sevice went downhill. But their laptops are OK).

What about Samsung? They seem to have a good reputation.
 

My Computers My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ALWAYS UNDER CONSTRUCTION
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    Asus X570 Crosshair Viii Hero
    Memory
    32GB G Skill DDR4-3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 3080 FTW 3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    On Board/Sennheiser PC37X Headset
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 X Asus 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2 X 1 TB NVME drives
    PSU
    EVGA 850
    Case
    Phanteks Eclipse P400A
    Cooling
    EVGA 280 AIO
    Keyboard
    Logitech G510s/ Logitech G13
    Mouse
    Logitech G502
    Internet Speed
    24/1
    Antivirus
    ESET/MBAM Pro/SAS Pro
    Browser
    Chrome/ Firefox/ Edge
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell 16 Plus
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Intel Ultra 9 288V
    Memory
    32 GB LPDDR5X 8533
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" Mini-LED HDR600 Touch 90 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    2560X1600
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME
As Digerati says, there is no laptop that is good at playing games. But if you want a halfway decent setup with an i7 CPU and a 1GB GPU, you are looking at around $1000. An SSD would come on top.

Large screen is nice, but a 17" is heavy. So if you want to lug it around, that may be a showstopper. On the other hand there are some 17" that have 2 disk bays. That would be important if you consider an SSD.

Do yourself a favor and do not buy from Walmart (as one poster suggested). They get junk especially manufactured for them. Also stay away from E-Machines, Acer and Compac. The ones to recommend are Sony (super service), Toshiba (good quality) and to a certain extend Gateway (although they are part of Acer and since then their sevice went downhill. But their laptops are OK).

What about Samsung? They seem to have a good reputation.
I think you are right. Forgot about them. They seem to really coming up strong in the market. And I have read some very positive reviews about their products. But I have never used one myself.

With the ones I mentioned though I have some personal experience. So I have a better judgement about those.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
OS
Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU
from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
Because of his specific needs; He wants to run Emulators, Minecraft, and general computing, I think he should shoot for a Fusion based machine, if Sandy Bridge, no higher than i5, but with Fusion the integrated graphics are discrete class, which will make a huge difference both in price, and battery life.

A Fusion APU seems like a perfect fit, gaming capability without the cost and power drain of discrete graphics, and much cheaper because it's on die. Sandy Bridge has fantastic x86 cores, but awful integrated graphics, especially when compared to Fusion.

For those very specific needs, a Fusion APU just seems like an absolutely perfect fit. But I guess if he doesn't mind paying a few hundred dollars more, he could shoot for an i7 with discrete graphics and a very good 9cell battery, just not sure it's worth all that considering what his needs are.

Just my perspective.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Customized
OS
Windows 7 Professional x64
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition
Motherboard
OEM 785G
Memory
8GB DDR3 1333Mhz Dual Channel
Graphics Card(s)
PNY Nvidia GeForce GTX 560Ti OC XLR8 @ 1025/2050Mhz
Sound Card
Onboard 5.1
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer S232HL LED
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
1TB 5,400Rpm Green
PSU
Thermaltake Black Widow 850w Modular Quad Rail
Case
HP OEM for now with heavy modding for decent cooling
Cooling
Cpu: Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO CPU Cooler | 3X 120mm
Keyboard
Logitech G19
Mouse
Logitech G500
Internet Speed
20MB/5MB
Other Info
Waiting for Ivy Bridge
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