is my system under powered?

[essenbe]

What was your CPU temps? And, how long did it run?

 

[kalelreturns]

I used speedfan, so I only had 1 cpu temp (is there a better cpu temp reader I can get?)which was 37C and it only ran for about a min.

 

[essenbe]

Use Coretemp64 or real temp. They will show tjmax which is the temps of the cores. You high them should be 60° before starting shutdown. What CPU cooler do you have? It should not have shut down in 1 minute.

 

[kalelreturns]

cooler master gemenii II

 

[essenbe]

What are your normal idle temps and what are they when your computer is under stress? Also, check and make sure your cooler is runnung when you start the computer up. That test stresses the CPU and causes high temps. It also stresses the ram a little. Did Prime95 show ant errors. (the green squares will turn red.)

 

[kalelreturns]

normal idle temp is 37C, I dont kow what my temps are under stress because my computer crashes when I try to. I made sure my cooler is running. got a BSOD from the test. 123101-14570-01.dmp.zip it crashed before prime95 could show any errors. Ran for about a minute again.

 

[essenbe]

Jonathan King will have to read the dumps. He is also better than me at assessing this as he wrote the Prime95 tutorial. My guess is CPU, Temps or possibly ram. Is everything in bios set to optimized defaults? Don't try this test if you are overclocked, I suspect you need a better cooler to run this test OC'd. It should be OK at stock.

 

[kalelreturns]

nothing is overclocked and everything in BIOS is default.

 

[essenbe]

Also, If normal idle temps are 37°, you were not at 36° during prime95, even 1 minute. Your max temp is 62°, but I think that is Tcase. The temps you are reading are TJmax which will run 5-8° below tCase. So, as far as I am concerned, when temps get above 60° I start shutting down.

 

[kalelreturns]

i didn't day I was at 36C on the test, it was 37C, the same as my idle temp. what does tjmax and tcase mean? the tjmax temp says 90C on mine.

 

[kalelreturns]

i tried the test again, and I got 47C within a few seconds, and a few seconds after that it froze.

 

[essenbe]

I dosen't sound like heat. Has this issue just started? Was it doing OK after the system was built and then just started this?

 

[kalelreturns]

yes. It ran perfectly the first few months no BSODs or anything. I've had this issue for a few months now, its very frustrating because I can't find the problem.

 

[essenbe]

I understand completely. I've been where you are and know the feeling. I replaced almost my whole computer with no releif. Problem ended up being the motherboard, which I RMA'd and still no help. So, I understand. Your case appears to be that you cannot put the CPU under stress. But, that also stresses other components but calls the CPU into question. Something changed, so hopefully it will be in the dump report. I don't know what to tell you until we see the results of the dump.

 

[kalelreturns]

well I was thinking about RMAing everything, but you said that you RMA'd yours, but it didn't help?

 

[LiquidSnak]

Was the BIOS update successful?

 

[essenbe]

Well, that's another story. I RMA'd the MB and they sent me back a board someone else had RMA'd, and had as many problems as mine, just different kinds. But, going back to the original question of this thread, When you run the CPU at 100% it also requires more power from the PSU. We know that at 47°, temp is fine. If I recall correctly, you have run memtest86 several times with no issue. I am inclined to say it is a hardware issue rather than a driver, which leaves in question the CPU, Motherboard and PSU. If it's the MB or PSU, you can't test the CPU. Believe me, you can spend a ton of money replacing one thing at a time trying to find out which component it is. I know that first hand, but is what I had to do.

 

[kalelreturns]

I don't know how to manually update the BIOS

 

[essenbe]

I don't know how to manually update the BIOS

Look in your manual on pages 3-33. OR download the manual from here.

 

[kalelreturns]

ok, updated the BIOS, should I try the prime95 test again?