The Last Days of Windows 7

[widestination]

I have a laptop and I am not upgrading to windows 8. I will eventuality get anyways if I ever get a desktop probably or a better laptop.

Based on the old Windows adage, "every second release is an improvement", you should wait until Windows 9.

.. Ditto,dude! Just like the case of ME and Vista!! Windows 9 will rock (er.. assumed )!!

 

[Vince53]

Remember when AOL would mail everybody free floppies with one month free AOL on them? They made great coasters.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

http://www.sevenforums.com/performa...-necessary-clean-windows-7-a.html#post1684691

Seems like there are a dozen threads like this a week sometimes with Reg Cleaners or MucAfee corruption, like getting caught in riptide.

Know what you mean mate just cleaned up a badly corrupted machine for friend and that MUCKAfee was the pits to get rid of -not to mention "again" that rotten AVG search thingy.

I am going to try adding some of these annoying sites to my Kaspersky ISS and see if it will stop the rot!

 

[Vince53]

Fear not, my friends! If you think Microsoft is having a hard time killing off Windows XP, wait until they have to gt rid of Windows 7.







Vista? What vista?

 

[NoelDP]

Personally, I think ME stands for Microsoft's Error.





*grins*

Heh - maybe that was how come I ended up with an MVP award pretty much for supporting System Restore in ME (I think I spent more trime trying (and failing) to diss Norcrap.

 

[beauparc]

Maybe it's just me, but I never had any trouble with ME. I was actually quite reluctant to drop it when XP appeared.

As to the debate between the relevant differences between Windows and Linux, allow me to add my feelings.....

To me, the differences between the two operating systems are not of any great importance. I can edit my photos, write letters, edit my movies, watch videos etc., etc. on both. The important things are the programmes. As long as they work, the underlying OS is immaterial.

I use both at the moment though Win7 is the favourite. But that is only because I'm more used to it.

As to learning command line useage in Linux - I've never had occasion to use it. I've actually used it in Windows (flushdns) more often. 99% of work done in Linux (Ubuntu) is done by the GUI.

Like a lot of people here I've been using computers since the late '70s and well remember spending hours writing code for the old ZX81, and then spending many more hours debugging it!

Happy days indeed.

 

[Corazon]

The ZX81? Wasn't that the one that had one whopping KB of RAM which actually doubled as the frame buffer for the onscreen display? Meaning you couldn't write anything beyond what would fit on the screen...not quite sure how that would take hours to code and more hours to debug.

 

[FranzB]

http://www.sevenforums.com/performa...-necessary-clean-windows-7-a.html#post1684691

Seems like there are a dozen threads like this a week sometimes with Reg Cleaners or MucAfee corruption, like getting caught in riptide.

Know what you mean mate just cleaned up a badly corrupted machine for friend and that MUCKAfee was the pits to get rid of -not to mention "again" that rotten AVG search thingy.

I am going to try adding some of these annoying sites to my Kaspersky ISS and see if it will stop the rot!

I even got rid of Norton Online Backup using "pc-decrapifier". No problems.
Size only 1.3 MB and you can use it stored in Documents. No installation necessary.
So it can be deleted fast too.

 

[jimbo45]

Hi all
slightly off topic --but all this stuff came about when PC / Laptop manufacturers stopped supplying you with two disks -- one the "Bog standard OEM windows install disk" --you've actually paid for this believe it or not with your product key and another one containing the PC / Laptop drivers and pre-installed applications.

Now you get that usually USELESS restore partition which contains a whole slew of crap / trial and adware on it making it impossible to do a "bog standard" Windows install (even from an OEM disk).

I usually bargain with the store people saying I'll buy the laptop if they throw in a retail copy of windows with it. These days with the stores struggling to shift goods this ploy usually works so don't be scared -- what have you lost -- the worst that can happen is they say no --but usually they want to see you leaving the store with some goods.

When you get the PC home --image the partition first then wipe the disk and do a totally new Windows install with the retail disk. You'll probably have to get a few drivers from the Internet after install but 95% of stuff should work straight from a Windows clean install.

(Even though computers are "sys-prepped" before shipping -- that's still no excuse NOT to provide the buyer with the base OS before adding all the crapware -- They MUST have a basic W7 image created before they add all the apps etc. The base OS can also be available as a Disk image --they don't have to supply a physical disk.).

Cheers
jimbo

 

[bigmck]

As to the debate between the relevant differences between Windows and Linux, allow me to add my feelings.....

I have never used Linux and know little about it. I have seen Mandrake, Red Hat and other forms of Linux. How do they differ?

 

[JerometheGiraff]

I read two features that may me realize that Microsoft is watching Linux. Windows8 will run on 300 Megs of Memory. That tells me that after 7 versions of Windows they finally optimized the code especially after Vista was bloatware, which is a positive direction. Another is that you can Live Boot Windows8, yet another Linux feature. And finally windows wants to separate them-self from the traditional start button U.I, hence the Metro look, which they should stick with on future versions of Windows. There is one thing that Windows is missing, team up with Linux and introduce a altered core of Windows and that core being Linux.

 

[jimbo45]

As to the debate between the relevant differences between Windows and Linux, allow me to add my feelings.....

I have never used Linux and know little about it. I have seen Mandrake, Red Hat and other forms of Linux. How do they differ?

Hi there
Red Hat -- now corporate only but they do support FEDORA.
Most distributions employ the SAME kernel -- the main differences are

1) the choice of GUI you have (if you want to use a GUI at all)

2) Package manager used to compile / install / maintain software -- this mechanism can vary greatly but essentially there are 2 main systems -- one based on Red Hat (RPM --Red Hat package manager) -- distros like Fedora, Mandrake and Suse all use variants of this, and the other (Apt Get) based on variants of DEBIAN / SLACKWARE are used in Gentoo (popular linux often used as the small kernel for stand alone bootable products like acronis or partition manager) and Ubuntu.

(It's not actually as simple as that but conceptually that's how it works. The Kernel is basically the same but some of the add on bits and pieces are different as well as mechanisms for installing and maintaining the system).

Things move fast in Linux -- I rarely update software between releases so package manager systems might have changed -- to me I use Linux for running Virtual servers so I rarely need to update the system as I'm not running any "ordinary desktop" type software.


In general a user familar with one distro can easily use another -- terminal commands and scripts are almost identical -- some of the directories might be named a little differently such as one distro might have non system commands in a directory called /opt while another it might be in /user. The actual command and script would be very similar though.

Finally since most Linux software packages are available as SOURCE it's often possible simply to download the SOURCE component and simply compile it so it should work whtever distro you have (In theory --wish it was always so easy --however most of the time it does work assuming correct versions of libraries etc).

As a Linux user you have to be prepared to do a lot more work than as a Windows user -- rarely will you get a nice equivalent to an .EXE or .MSI install file.

cheers
jimbo

 

[FranzB]

As to the debate between the relevant differences between Windows and Linux, allow me to add my feelings.....

I have never used Linux and know little about it. I have seen Mandrake, Red Hat and other forms of Linux. How do they differ?

Four words with a question mark and you can spend days reading up on it!
From a practical point of view have a look at, e.g.
The best Linux distro of 2011! | TuxRadar Linux

 

[Maguscreed]

I read two features that may me realize that Microsoft is watching Linux. Windows8 will run on 300 Megs of Memory. That tells me that after 7 versions of Windows they finally optimized the code especially after Vista was bloatware, which is a positive direction. Another is that you can Live Boot Windows8, yet another Linux feature. And finally windows wants to separate them-self from the traditional start button U.I, hence the Metro look, which they should stick with on future versions of Windows. There is one thing that Windows is missing, team up with Linux and introduce a altered core of Windows and that core being Linux.

This is for the sole reason that it's meant to be used on windows phones.
1 gig as a base requirement would be too much.

 

[legacy7955]

There is one thing that Windows is missing, team up with Linux and introduce a altered core of Windows and that core being Linux.

Yep.

Linux is the answer.

 

[Maguscreed]

There is one thing that Windows is missing, team up with Linux and introduce a altered core of Windows and that core being Linux.

Yep.

Linux is the answer.

Must have been one messed up question.:devil:

 

[lehnerus2000]

Terminal here we come

There is one thing that Windows is missing, team up with Linux and introduce a altered core of Windows and that core being Linux.

Yep.

Linux is the answer.

You'd better brush up on your CLI skills then.

Linux GUI tools are awful.
Nautilus is better than Windows Explorer in several ways (tabs, multi-level copy/cut/paste) but it is still more painful to use.
Try viewing an image's dimensions in Nautilus.
You have to open the "Properties" window to do it (using Gnome 2.xx anyway).

Linux media players are worse, than Windows media players.
IMO the Windows media players aren't that good either, just slightly better than the Linux ones.
http://www.sevenforums.com/music-pictures-video/133171-why-media-players-so-awful.html

This year, Ubuntu has been twitchier than W7 (on my PC).

It has self-destructed 3 times (requiring HDD re-imaging):

• It deleted its own GUI config files (totally obliterated).
• It deleted its own Network config files (totally obliterated).
• It claimed that /etc/fstab was missing, so it wouldn't boot (it was present - I checked using a Live CD).

 

[ziggie]

Gads, I haven't totally moved to win 7 yet, I'm having trouble leaving XP pro

 

[Vince53]

Gads, I haven't totally moved to win 7 yet, I'm having trouble leaving XP pro

It;s okay, Ziggie. XP does most of what most people need.

I've installed three different versions of Linux on three different machines. At best, I found them to be as good as the current versions of Windows in certain areas, but worse in others. Less than 1% of all computers use Linux as their primary operating system. As a secondary OS on a partitioned drive, it's interesting to play with, though.

 

[ziggie]

XP was released around 2002 didn't it, wow, short run for Windows 7 :shock: