Which backup program is best? An unbiased opinion, please.

[rikkidegraz]

I have downloaded 30day trials on a couple of programs. The more I read online on this subject, the more confused I get. The one I am currently considering is Rebik 5. Well, until I read some of the writeups.

I also tried the built-in MS backup program. Man, it ran and ran and that bar never moved. It ran all night and still didn't finish, so I thought - I don't think so.

I used MiniTool Partition to set up my partitions because I really don't like the Library system that Win7 forces on you. XP was far easier to use - for me, anyway.

I do like the idea of a system image. That sounds like a good thing.

I have a Seagate 2TB external hard drive. They recommend Memeo backup program.

So, tell me. What do you think I should do before I dish out my hard earned money?

 

[prospero]

I use Windows own backup (from the Control Panel) and it has yet to let me down. It also can create a system image and a recovery disk and its free.

 

[Golden]

Keep your hard earned cash for something nice.

Use the Windows ROBOCOPY command in a .BAT file with the /MIR switch to mirror your backups saving plenty of time. If you want super-fast backups, you can also use the /MT switch to force the backup to use more than a single thread.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/187346-robocopy-create-backup-script.html

Also consider full system imaging using the FREE version of Macrium Reflect:

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/73828-imaging-free-macrium.html

Regards,
Golden

 

[wanchoo]

It is very difficult to give an unbiased opinion on this subject. A person would naturally be biased in favour of the Program that the person uses.

Since I started making backup images about 6 years ago I have used Acronis TrueImage. I now don't have the program on the C Drive and manage everything with the TrueImage Boot Disk that I have created and updated from time to time.

In the 6 years Acronis TrueImage has not failed me even once and therefore perhaps my biased opinion is that it is about the best backup application. On this Forum however the free Macrium is extremely popular and is perhaps an excellent program. Windows 7's native backup program is not spoken very highly of by Gurus but I have never used it and so am unable to comment on its performance.

 

[rikkidegraz]

Re the built-in backup - is there something I should know? I guess you have to close all programs before starting the backup so that the .pst file is saved.

I think I'll give the built-in program another chance. Thanks for your input.

 

[kado897]

Not really an unbiased opinion. We all have our favorites. my own is Macrium for imaging and FreeFileSync for file backup.

There is a tutorial for Macrium here. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/73828-imaging-free-macrium.html?filter[2]=Backup%20Restore . The download is in my sig.

I made a short YouTube video of FreeFileSync. Which you can view here. Backup With FreeFileSync - YouTube . The program can be downloaded from here. FreeFileSync | Free Security & Utilities software downloads at SourceForge.net

 

[jumanji]

I started off with Acronis (years back), changed over to ShadowProtect Desktop before zeroing on Paragon software. ( I use the paid version of Paragon Hard Disk Manager 2011 Suite,though.)

But for those who want a free version, I always recommend Paragon's Backup & Recovery 2012 Free - Free Backup Software: Paragon Backup & Recovery Free Edition - Overview

Try Both Macrium Reflect Free and also the Paragon Free and choose the one which you are comfortable with. (Since I do not use Macrium Reflect, I cannot give a comparative assessment.)

Acronis does not have a free version.

But if you have a Seagate or Maxtor Hard drive you can download the Disk Wizard - which is a version of Acronis. | Seagate.

If you have a Western Digital Hard drive you can download Acronis True Image WD Edition. WD Support

 

[pincushion]

As pointed out it is difficult to get an unbiased opinion since if we are happy with our own particular solutions and they have worked consistently then we will promote these.

I have used Acronis TrueImage (fortunately got a free edition given away with a magazine - a long time ago!) and now use Macrium Reflect free edition. Both of these have never failed me (yet!) and I have restored many times using both.

I also am quite happy with SyncBack free edition which again does all that I require.

 

[pparks1]

We all have different needs, thus differing opinions.

I store all of my "data" on a file server box at my house. For backing up this data, I use robocopy as described above wit the /MIR switch. The first backup copies everything, all subsequent backups only copy changes..so very fast. I copy to 2 different external hard drives and I always make sure to keep at least 1 of those drives offsite in case of fire, theft, etc.

For my workstation, i install the OS, activate it and run Windows update. I then use Acronis and take an image. That's my "plain vanilla image". I then load my apps that I use, and take a second image "standard config". From here on out, I image about once a month or once I make a significant change. This gives me an easy ability to snap back if "anything" goes wrong. I don't even hardly troubleshoot problems, I just restore images.

This method has worked great for for years. YMMV.

 

[jumanji]

..... I don't even hardly troubleshoot problems, I just restore images.

This method has worked great for for years. YMMV.

Same here. I haven't made any System Repair Disk. I do not know how to run Startup Repair - I get amused to read it has to be run three times and honestly I never bothered to know how to start Windows in Safe mode, clean boot and all that trouble-shooting process. Yep, that is the power of backing up.

I just remember richnrockville's mantra - 1. Backup 2. Backup and 3.Backup. And you will never come to grief.

 

[wanchoo]

So very true for many of us. Acronis in the TrueImage Window sums it up nicely. It says "Compute with Confidence". You need not learn anything if you have mastered the art of creating and restoring Disk Images.

..... I don't even hardly troubleshoot problems, I just restore images.

This method has worked great for for years. YMMV.

Same here. I haven't made any System Repair Disk. I do not know how to run Startup Repair - I get amused to read it has to be run three times and honestly I never bothered to know how to start Windows in Safe mode, clean boot and all that trouble-shooting process. Yep, that is the power of backing up.

I just remember richnrockville's mantra - 1. Backup 2. Backup and 3.Backup. And you will never come to grief.

 

[GeneO]

Our of the three I have used in the past few years, Acronis, Windows 7 and Macrium, I still use the last two. I just restore a system image with macrium last night as a matter of fact.

 

[wanchoo]

What caused you to give up using Acronis? Any special reasons?

Our of the three I have used in the past few years, Acronis, Windows 7 and Macrium, I still use the last two. I just restore a system image with macrium last night as a matter of fact.

 

[chris1neji]

My opinion is bias,
However currently I am enjoying ... somewhat Windows 7 Image backup.
For about 3 years i was using Acronis, then on their last version i was angry and my system ended up having terrible shutdown times. It would take about hours (2-8 hours) to shutdown. My system image wasnt that big either it was about 800GBs originally and about <400 once compressed and ready for backup.

Acronis was really good, they had a good GUI, Fast and Easy. Many useful and helpful tools. They still have those tools however with my system i encounter inconvininces.

Today i am using Win 7 System Image utility

 

[GeneO]

What caused you to give up using Acronis? Any special reasons?

Our of the three I have used in the past few years, Acronis, Windows 7 and Macrium, I still use the last two. I just restore a system image with macrium last night as a matter of fact.

Every release they changed the user interface and functionality, mostly for the worse, and every new release had bugs. I had to get rid of an older version, which I liked and which worked well, when I moved to Windows 7. I had to purchase their latest release which I found buggy and did not like the functionality or interface. Every release it seemed they provided a different way to do the same things, in a less intuitive way, and for no good reason IMO. I asked them if I could trade this for their previous release instead of getting my money back and they said no. So I got my money back and they lost a customer.

EDIT: Oh yes, I finally quit using it when I had a failed restore. The boot CD said (every one of) the backup files were of the wrong type or corrupted, tough they checked out fine in windows.

 

[mjf]

Unbiased then

File folder backup:
Sync Toy, Windows 7 inbuilt, GFI, drag & drop.
Imaging:
Windows Inbuilt, Macrium Reflect (free or paid), Acronis free for Seagate/WD drives, Easeus Todo (still a bit new).

If your system allows you to easily connect another internal HDD then I recommend you get one (maybe when prices drop). When you can confidently reimage to the new HDD you have a good imaging package.

 

[wanchoo]

I have only rarely installed Acronis on my Computer and that too for very short periods only for making the boot disk. Once the boot disk is there I uninstall Acronis TrueImage from my hard Disk and depend solely upon the the boot disk for imaging purposes.

I have found that the boot disk does an excellent job. The main program is not as good as the boot disk, may be for the reasons that you have outlined.

What caused you to give up using Acronis? Any special reasons?

Every release they changed the user interface and functionality, mostly for the worse, and every new release had bugs. I had to get rid of an older version, which I liked and which worked well, when I moved to Windows 7. I had to purchase their latest release which I found buggy and did not like the functionality or interface. Every release it seemed theey provided a different way to do the same things, in a less intuitive way, and for no good reason IMO. I asked them if I could trade this for their previous release instead of getting my money back and they said no. So I got my money back and they lost a customer.

 

[whs]

There seems to be a unanimous consensus that anything that works for you is OK. I have used (not only tried) Ghost 14 for Vista (costs money), free Paragon (is good but a bit complex), Windows Imaging (gave me all kinds of problems) and free Macrium which I like most because it is robust and reliable. So it is up to you to try any or all of the suggestions that were made.

 

[rikkidegraz]

Thank you all for your input. Guess what? I think I will buy Rebit 5. It sounds like it might just do the trick for me.

 

[whs]

What on earth is "Rebit 5". Has anybody ever used that. I have never heard of it.