Solved Newbie.....operation failed with 0x8007047f.... i cant install wmp!!!

[karlsnooks]

I forgot to mention:
The EU forced MS to sell Win 7 without WMP.
MS sells Win 7 without WMP, in europe, as the N version.
However, and here's the kicker, Microsoft charges the same price for the N version,
which does not have WMP, as the normal Win 7 that comes with WMP.

 

[NoelDP]

Unusual yes -
Counterfeit? that's a whole different consideration, and at the moment, I can see absolutely no reason for saying that it is.

 

[karlsnooks]

why would one buy a crippled version of Win 7, the N version, when you can get the healthy version for the same price?
This raises questions in my mind.
Why the spelling mistake of the word unknown?
This I find extremely unusual and unbelievable that such would exist in a legal version.

That's the way I see things.

 

[NoelDP]

You can install WMP/WMC/DVDMaker into the N Version if you want, from download - some people prefer not to have it present at all, either because they use their own alternatives, or simply don't 'do' media.

I see no cause for suspicion, apart from the source of the package in the first place.

 

[moogwai]

Definitely follow the suggestion from Golden. That version is not meant for sale to individuals.
Next time you want to buy Win 7 then go to a store which will be offering Win 7 in a Microsoft-logoed package from Microsoft.

Did your computer come with Win 7? Yes/no.

No karlsnooks it didn't....

 

[moogwai]

here is a screen shot of the description of the windows i brought from the fella

 

[moogwai]

and just for the record i didnt know i was buying an "n" version......and wouldnt even known the difference until i had problems!!
I have invited the seller to take a look at this thread so i'll see what he thinks.

oh and it wont let me install winamp or vlc either!!

 

[karlsnooks]

moogwai,
I suggest you report the retailer to Microsoft.

 

[NoelDP]

and just for the record i didnt know i was buying an "n" version......and wouldnt even known the difference until i had problems!!
I have invited the seller to take a look at this thread so i'll see what he thinks.

oh and it wont let me install winamp or vlc either!!

Please note the licensng terms contained in the Retail EULA -

18. TRANSFER TO A THIRD PARTY.
a. Software Other Than Windows Anytime Upgrade. The first user of the software may make
a one time transfer of the software and this agreement, by transferring the original media, the
certificate of authenticity, the product key and the proof of purchase directly to a third party. The
first user must remove the software before transferring it separately from the computer. The first
user may not retain any copies of the software.
b. Windows Anytime Upgrade Software. You may transfer the software directly to a third party
only with the licensed computer. You may not keep any copies of the software or any earlier
edition.
c. Other Requirements. Before any permitted transfer, the other party must agree that this
agreement applies to the transfer and use of the software.

(emphasis mine)

 

[Dwarf]

The alarm bells should be ringing here, especially given this excerpt from the comment you posted above:

...The DVD and Licensing information is NOT in its original packaging...

 

[moogwai]

just a quick update....i have requested a full refund from the seller and will report him if he doesn't come through with it.

thanks all for your help and will let you know the outcome.

 

[karlsnooks]

Sounds like a good plan. The seller's reply/action will be interesting.

 

[moogwai]

the seller has contacted me and given me a full refund aswell as offering expert technical help to sort it out if i wanted.
To be fair to the chap he was very honest and helpful and can't complain about him. Reading his reveiws on play.com it seems this is the first time anything like this has happened so i guess this is just one of those things.

thanks again guys.

will be buying a version from ebuyer now.....unless anyone can point me in the right direction of a slightly cheaper supplier!!

 

[NoelDP]

Check the prices from Dabs.com and scan.co.uk - I usually find them to be cheapest.

 

[moogwai]

Check the prices from Dbs.com and scan.co.uk - I usually find them to be cheapest.

will do noel, thanks for your help.

 

[moogwai]

one more question.....i see there are oem versions with sp1 that are around £130 are these ones ok? or am i better off going for the full retail boxed ones that are around £160?? if i'm paying more for just a box then i'm not bothered about that!!

 

[NoelDP]

The biggest difference between OEM licenses and Retail ones is that an OEM license is locked forever to the first motherboard on which it is activated. If the motherboard dies 5 minutes later, MS would be within their rights to refuse to allow activation on a new one.

Also, the OEM System Builder license (to which you agree by opening the pack) requires that the installation is made using the OPK, for sale of the installed system to a third party.

 

[moogwai]

The biggest difference between OEM licenses and Retail ones is that an OEM license is locked forever to the first motherboard on which it is activated. If the motherboard dies 5 minutes later, MS would be within their rights to refuse to allow activation on a new one.

Also, the OEM System Builder license (to which you agree by opening the pack) requires that the installation is made using the OPK, for sale of the installed system to a third party.

so best get the retail one in case my pc dies then!!

thanks.

 

[NoelDP]

You're very unlikely to need all the bells and whistles in Ultimate - Professional haas pretty much everything except Bitlocker and multiple Language support.

 

[karlsnooks]

moogwai,

If you want multi-language support, then you need the Ultimate version.
I, and many of the people working on this forum, use ultimate although you can get by with less.

Do NOT buy over eBay. Buy from a reputable store where you can see the packaging. You will pay more,but that's because the version is legal.

Legal is the key word. Do you want the same kettle of fish you had?

Now to save money: Use the OEM version. If I recollect correctly MS lost a suit against the EU and must accept the use of the OEM version by individuals just like with the other versions. This suit originated in germany and went all of the way. MS does not like to speak of this.

Another solution is to use an UPGRADE version which is every bit as full as a FULL version, but is cheaper. Now I'm not going to get into a long discussion with anyone on these matters but I researched the matter, Paul Thurott researched and published the how, Ed Botts did the same.

We have a tutorial on using an upgrade version and performing a virgin install.

You will have people say, but...etc. believe me you will be OK.

Enjoy your OEM version.