Computer doesn't start cant get into bios or advanced start up setting

[marimuda]

gregrocker love your responds " Where in the tutorial did it say to short the pins with a screwdriver? " checked some information on the internet found two pins on the board where i should put a jumper on to reset (since there was no bottom on the cmos reset pins) then i did some search on the internet and saw that several have used some metal object to lead the charge from one pin to the other. which is basically what the jumper does.
Tried it and now it is killed..
Currently looking at ways to check my PSU to see if it is dead.
think i need to get in touch with someone that has a functional stationer and is willing to test it on my computer to figure out what is wrong.
will try to get my hands on a repair disc since i cant find mine.
Thanks for your time guys, gonna try my luck in the hardware apartment, when my computer got a pulse again i will come back and whine here if i can't figure the things out.
hehe just crap that i can't afford having my computer dead :banghead:

 

[gregrocker]

Let us know what you find out.

 

[proudtobegreek]

Would you believe it,that its suggested in his manual to short-circuit his jumper with a screwdriver?I ll just show it to you
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[gregrocker]

In that case I would contact the mobo manufacturer to ask what has happened when following their procedure from Manual, which is located on it's Support Downloads webpage.

 

[alphanumeric]

Normally, even when there are only two pins, the plastic jumper will still be there, only connected to one pin. Inside the plastic shell is a metal contact that shorts whatever two pins its connected to. Shorting the two pins with a metal object is the same as putting the jumper on and then taking it back off again. If the power supply is unplugged, and any residual power drained, nothing bad should happen when you short the pins. Pressing the power button with the supply unplugged will drain off any residual power. The only other thing to watch out for is a static discharge when using a screwdriver or other similar device. If you fingers are touching the metal shaft a static discharge can happen and damage the motherboard. That's why the jumpers have a non conductive shell. CMOS chips are especially susceptible to static discharge damage. It sounds like, even though proper procedures were followed that something got damaged on the motherboard.

 

[marimuda]

Just bought a new motherboard, and it didn't fix anything still totally dead..
Might be malfunctional motherboard I've bought but most likely is the problem else where.. what would you do now in this situation if you were in it?... Return the motherboard and maybe try to buy a new power supply?

 

[alphanumeric]

If it was me I would try to borrow a power supply and try it with the new motherboard. If it now works, put the old motherboard back in and make sure it works before you return the new one. Also try a different power cord in the power supply. I've had one of those actually fail on me and it was the last thing I suspected. It had me scratching my head for a while.

 

[Layback Bear]

Also pick up a PS2 keyboard if you don't have one. That is if you don't have one. It makes things like this easier. I checked your specs and motherboard you posted and that board has a PS2 capability.

 

[alphanumeric]

You meant PS2 Keyboard, didn't you? It can be a pain sometimes getting into the BIOS with a USB keyboard on some motherboards. That's why I keep and old generic PS2 keyboard in the closet.

 

[proudtobegreek]

Cant the operator just do the paperclip test with a molex fan for makin sure the PSU powers up?

 

[Layback Bear]

You meant PS2 Keyboard, didn't you? It can be a pain sometimes getting into the BIOS with a USB keyboard on some motherboards. That's why I keep and old generic PS2 keyboard in the closet.

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Sorry I changed it to keyboard.

 

[lehnerus2000]

Also try a different power cord in the power supply. I've had one of those actually fail on me and it was the last thing I suspected. It had me scratching my head for a while.

Agreed.
I had boot problems caused by a broken power wire or dodgy power connector on one of my optical drives.
The drive couldn't power up and that prevented Windows from booting (somehow).

 

[Layback Bear]

Cant the operator just do the paperclip test with a molex fan for makin sure the PSU powers up?

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To answer your question; all that test is the switching to prove the power supply turns on and can power a fan. It does not prove that it can power up everything else in the computer. You can buy a power supply tester which puts a simulated load on the power supply or most computer repair shops have one for testing power supplies.

 

[alphanumeric]

Cant the operator just do the paperclip test with a molex fan for makin sure the PSU powers up?

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To answer your question; all that test is the switching to prove the power supply turns on and can power a fan. It does not prove that it can power up everything else in the computer. You can buy a power supply tester which puts a simulated load on the power supply or most computer repair shops have one for testing power supplies.

Exactly, Its a quick and dirty test to see if its completely shot. If it won't turn on thats a very good sign that you need a new power supply. Even if it does turn on, it could still have issues. I do believe the OP has already done that. There are two threads on the go dealing with this problem.