Anyone else kind of disappointed?

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I really wish MS would've added new featured from the RC to RTM timeframe. A lot of icons are left unchanged from Vista's, plus the taskbar could've been reworked a lot.
 

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The point of an RC is not to add new features, it is to basically provide a feature-locked OS and only change showstopper-type bugs.
 

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I'm not surprised at all. The point of a release candidate is a final check to ensure on real computers with real people that everything is working as it should. Only problems that were discovered and fixed should be implemented between RC and RTM.
 

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"Anyone else kind of disappointed?"

No. Not at all.
 

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I have to agree with the OP. I am completely bummed that my $300 version doesn't contain any untested and potentially dangerous features.
 
Overall I am very happy with this os.

One thing I am unsure about is the fact it attempts to install drivers during the installation without asking the user, so we end up not knowing exactly what was installed and what hasn't. I don't know, I just expected it to be a bit smarter, to advice users better on drivers. A lot of people might get inferior performance due to thinking they have all right drivers installed.
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate x64 build 7600
Nope. I'm actually surprised how clean it works and looks.

The only thing that didn't go as planed was with my new HDD. Neither XP nor the Windows 7 disc were able to create the propper partition for Windows 7 installation, but a simple, maybe even scratched, XP disc. :shock:
 

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Intel S1155 Core i7 3770K 3.50Ghz Quad Core
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"Anyone else kind of disappointed?" -- YES

Yes I am still disappointed :mad:

I am still having bug and freeze problems on all of the computers that I have been testing on since the first release in November.

I am currently testing both x64 and x86 versions on 4 of my PC's and still having minor bug issues, and the major freeze problem.

I do not Just use my PC's for e-mails, browsing the web and gaming. I primarily use them for Engineering Design Work and they need lots of resources to operate efficiently. My primary Base unit is the one I do most of my work on and the Most efficient Operating system on it is Windows XP x64 (sp2) and customized. (Not the Basic install of services and registry sets).

The freeze issue is random and it happens when my PC's go into sleep mode. Some times the will wake up normally, but way to often they will not wake at all, I have to force re-boot. And no error logs related to sleep mode issues, only the E-ID 41 (forced re-boot). This has happened on all the releases from 7000 to 7127, and now 7600, the releases from 7137 to 7229 never had this problem. And this has happened on all my test PC's including Laptops and Desktops.

I have tried many changes in settings for Power Settings (Advanced), Network Adapter Settings, Monitor settings.

Ideally I want my Network Adapter to stay Active on my main box so I can access files from my other computers any time I need them, I want my HDD's to go to sleep when not in use so they will live for a while. and My Monitors to shut down when not in use.
All computers are Multi-Boot

Any one have any Ideas??

Here are some Hardware details.
Main System
Windows 7 7600 RTM x64 Ultimate
Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3, Intel C2Q 6600 64Bit
Marvell Yukon 88E8053 PCI Gigabit
8 Gig Ram
Dual nVidia 9400 GT (PCI-e and PCI)
7 HDD's @ 5.5 TByts (SATA II and IDE)
4 Monitors 3-LCD Hanns G, 1-AOC

2nd Test System
Windows 7 7600 RTM x64 Pro
Gigabyte GA-G31M-ES2L, Intel C2D E6450 64Bit
Realtek RTL8111C (PCI) Gigabit
4 Gig, nVidia 7200 GS (PCI-e)
5 HDD's @ 1.75 TByts (SATA II and IDE)
2 Monitors, 1 LCD-Hanns-G, 1 CRT-Samtron

3rd Test Laptop
Windows 7 7600 RTM x86 Home Premium
Lenovo 3000 N100, Intel C2D T2060 32Bit
Intel Pro Wireless3945ABG
2 Gig, Mobile Intel 945 Graphics Chip Set
1 HDD - (SATA II)

4th Test Netbook
Windows 7 7600 RTM x86 Home Basic
Acer AspireONE, Intel C2-ATOM N270
Atheros AR5007EG Wireless, Realtek RTL8102E PCI - NIC
1.5 Gig RAM, Mobile Intel 945 Graphics Chip Set
1 HDD, WD 120 SATA II
 

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Windows 7 7600 x86 &x64, Windows XPP sp3 (x86...C2Q 6600, C2D 6420, C2D T2060, C2-ATOM N2708 Gig, 4 Gig, 2 Gig, 1.5 GignVidia 9400 GS, 7200GT, FX 5200
OS
Windows 7 7600 x86 &x64, Windows XPP sp3 (x86) & sp2 x64
CPU
C2Q 6600, C2D 6420, C2D T2060, C2-ATOM N270
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3, GA-G31M-ES2L, Lenovo 3000 N100, Acer A
Memory
8 Gig, 4 Gig, 2 Gig, 1.5 Gig
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nVidia 9400 GS, 7200GT, FX 5200
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2-Hanns-G HW191D, 1-Hanns-G JC199D, 1-AOC 720LM, 2-Samtron
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1440x900, 1280x1024
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Seagate Barracuda 11 & 12 series
2-500G, 2-1Tb
WD My Book 1Tb
Samsung 3-500G
Maxtor Diamond 9 - 11 80G to 300G about 8 diff.
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many from 1000w to 250w
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many
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Massive fans on all, and my home build AC unit
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MS Natural Multimedia
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MS IntelliMouse 3.0
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10Mbs d/l 768Kbs u/l
...Any one have any Ideas...
Because the issue propogates across platforms and OS builds, it is reasonable to conclude that the cause is not in the hardware or the OS build.

Are you applying a setting at any level that is drawn from your legacy bag of tricks?

For more than a year, I dealt with XP booting to svchost running at 50%/100% due to a customized network setting on my slipstream CDs. I knew it was somewhere in those settings because I finally solved the problem by installing from a slipstream that used default network settings. I burned an entire pack of CDs testing different slipstream configs. I still do not know what the actual setting was that caused the problem.

Something I "learned" and applied caused a major XP "bug". It spanned XP, XP SP1 and XP SP2 on every machine I ever installed it on.
 
I'm pretty happy overall. It's seeming stable and slick.

The RC was feature complete, and it's purpose was to test for bugs -- not add new features. I'm glad they didn't go trying to do anything extra. It's really truly a "Release Candidate," meaning you tell us the disasters that makes this something we can't release, not tell us what icons to add.

They can add doodads like icons and taskbar tweaks, etc. over time. Right now the foundation needs to be solid.

I'd mainly like to see more drivers, etc. I'd indeed like more input on what drivers are installed originally, and I'm finding there are some things like my Canon scanner where Vista drivers actually don't work (and what it installs by default doesn't work either).

But disappointed, no. They actually got this solid a lot faster from the RC than I expected.
 

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I have to agree with the OP. I am completely bummed that my $300 version doesn't contain any untested and potentially dangerous features.
lmao...very nice
 

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Compal JFT02 (Custom Build Laptop)
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Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64
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Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 2.5 GHz
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JFT02
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4GB Kingston DDR2-800
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NVIDIA Geforce 8600M GT (512MB Model)
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Realtek HD Audio
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WUXGA Standard Laptop Display
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1680*1050
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Toshiba 320GB 5400RPM Laptop HD
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Standard Laptop Power Supply
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Standard Laptop Case
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Standard Laptop Cooling
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Standard Laptop 105 Key-Keyboard
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Synaptics Touchpad
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Because the issue propogates across platforms and OS builds, it is reasonable to conclude that the cause is not in the hardware or the OS build.

Are you applying a setting at any level that is drawn from your legacy bag of tricks?

For more than a year, I dealt with XP booting to svchost running at 50%/100% due to a customized network setting on my slipstream CDs. I knew it was somewhere in those settings because I finally solved the problem by installing from a slipstream that used default network settings. I burned an entire pack of CDs testing different slipstream configs. I still do not know what the actual setting was that caused the problem.

Something I "learned" and applied caused a major XP "bug". It spanned XP, XP SP1 and XP SP2 on every machine I ever installed it on.

Yes Antman, I have dealt with that issue in Win XP as well, and found the solution to the problems in the settings for network controls and services related to them.
That is what I am trying to solve in Win7. Not massive resource demands, just the freeze problem.

I do a lot of experimenting in my design work on my laptop (the Lenovo, the Acer is my Wife's toy) and them Sync the files to my main box, then intigrate the design work and run simulation testing on my main box (cause It has the needed resources).

The only Network services that I have not used yet is the HomeGroup, I did test it in the beginning, but It will not communicate with any other OS but Win 7 and Server 2008. But I don't think that it would be related to the Freeze problem.

One point that I can not figure out, When my System (my main box) goes to sleep and then freezes, it turns off the Network Adapter and USB ports.
I have gone through the Advanced settings and disabled the shut-down options on them, but they still shut down on the 7600 version, that one didn't happen on the earlier versions, (that I recall).
 

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Windows 7 7600 x86 &x64, Windows XPP sp3 (x86...C2Q 6600, C2D 6420, C2D T2060, C2-ATOM N2708 Gig, 4 Gig, 2 Gig, 1.5 GignVidia 9400 GS, 7200GT, FX 5200
OS
Windows 7 7600 x86 &x64, Windows XPP sp3 (x86) & sp2 x64
CPU
C2Q 6600, C2D 6420, C2D T2060, C2-ATOM N270
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3, GA-G31M-ES2L, Lenovo 3000 N100, Acer A
Memory
8 Gig, 4 Gig, 2 Gig, 1.5 Gig
Graphics Card(s)
nVidia 9400 GS, 7200GT, FX 5200
Monitor(s) Displays
2-Hanns-G HW191D, 1-Hanns-G JC199D, 1-AOC 720LM, 2-Samtron
Screen Resolution
1440x900, 1280x1024
Hard Drives
Seagate Barracuda 11 & 12 series
2-500G, 2-1Tb
WD My Book 1Tb
Samsung 3-500G
Maxtor Diamond 9 - 11 80G to 300G about 8 diff.
PSU
many from 1000w to 250w
Case
many
Cooling
Massive fans on all, and my home build AC unit
Keyboard
MS Natural Multimedia
Mouse
MS IntelliMouse 3.0
Internet Speed
10Mbs d/l 768Kbs u/l
Mr. Laser, it is bedtime here in DC. Let's pick this up tomorrow. Create a thread and copy your two posts from here. SF can help you fix this.

The Ozarks are beautiful.
 
Yep

Yea Mr. Antman
Its past my Bed time too.
I will start a post in this and see if any one else has these problems, I have been posting on the TechNet Forum, but still no solutions.

Thanks.
 

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Windows 7 7600 x86 &x64, Windows XPP sp3 (x86...C2Q 6600, C2D 6420, C2D T2060, C2-ATOM N2708 Gig, 4 Gig, 2 Gig, 1.5 GignVidia 9400 GS, 7200GT, FX 5200
OS
Windows 7 7600 x86 &x64, Windows XPP sp3 (x86) & sp2 x64
CPU
C2Q 6600, C2D 6420, C2D T2060, C2-ATOM N270
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3, GA-G31M-ES2L, Lenovo 3000 N100, Acer A
Memory
8 Gig, 4 Gig, 2 Gig, 1.5 Gig
Graphics Card(s)
nVidia 9400 GS, 7200GT, FX 5200
Monitor(s) Displays
2-Hanns-G HW191D, 1-Hanns-G JC199D, 1-AOC 720LM, 2-Samtron
Screen Resolution
1440x900, 1280x1024
Hard Drives
Seagate Barracuda 11 & 12 series
2-500G, 2-1Tb
WD My Book 1Tb
Samsung 3-500G
Maxtor Diamond 9 - 11 80G to 300G about 8 diff.
PSU
many from 1000w to 250w
Case
many
Cooling
Massive fans on all, and my home build AC unit
Keyboard
MS Natural Multimedia
Mouse
MS IntelliMouse 3.0
Internet Speed
10Mbs d/l 768Kbs u/l
Yea Mr. Antman
Its past my Bed time too.
I will start a post in this and see if any one else has these problems, I have been posting on the TechNet Forum, but still no solutions.

Thanks.
TechNet lacks the technical expertise available here. :rolleyes:
 
As it happends I got 965P-DS3 in one of my seven boxes and I have seen one resume failure on that box but only one and i do use that function a lot. Running 64 bit Enterprise on it with a nvida 7600 Gt
 

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Windows7 EnterpriseC2D E67004 GByte7600GT
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C2D E6700
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965P-DS3
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4 GByte
Graphics Card(s)
7600GT
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Dell 2407
Screen Resolution
1920X1200
Case
Mcubed HFX Mini
Cooling
Passive

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Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 2.5 GHz4GB Kingston DDR2-800NVIDIA Geforce 8600M GT (512MB Model)
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Compal JFT02 (Custom Build Laptop)
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 2.5 GHz
Motherboard
JFT02
Memory
4GB Kingston DDR2-800
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA Geforce 8600M GT (512MB Model)
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
WUXGA Standard Laptop Display
Screen Resolution
1680*1050
Hard Drives
Toshiba 320GB 5400RPM Laptop HD
PSU
Standard Laptop Power Supply
Case
Standard Laptop Case
Cooling
Standard Laptop Cooling
Keyboard
Standard Laptop 105 Key-Keyboard
Mouse
Synaptics Touchpad
Internet Speed
Verizion Online DSL 3360/864 kbs (dl/up)

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Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) SP1Intel 3770k 4.6GHz8GB (2x 4GB) Crucial BallistixSapphire 7950 (1060/1600)
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
tw33k
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) SP1
CPU
Intel 3770k 4.6GHz
Motherboard
ASUS Maximus V Formula
Memory
8GB (2x 4GB) Crucial Ballistix
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire 7950 (1060/1600)
Sound Card
On Board Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
27" Acer B273HU (via HDMI)
Screen Resolution
2048 x 1152
Hard Drives
Crucial M4 128GB
2TB WD Black
1TB Samsung F3 SATA
1TB WD Elite External
2TB WD USB 3.0
PSU
Corsair AX750 Gold
Case
Corsair Obsidian 800DW
Cooling
Corsair H100 (2x AP-121/2x UK-3000 push/pull)
Keyboard
Microsoft Wireless 5000
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless 5000
Internet Speed
5mb/s
Other Info
Logitech z-2300 2.1 speakers
Lamptron FC-5 v2
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