Looking to Upgrade to a New SSD

[kbrady1979]

I was just commenting on what 99% of users will see and feel. The numbers that determine real world speed are highlighted above.

 

[whs]

Gene, I own 8 SSDs ranging from a 2008 Gen1 Intel to an OCZ Vector. They are all very fast. And although they are in very different systems ranging from a 1.8GHz duo core with 2GB of RAM to an i7 with 8GB of RAM.

The 'felt speed' is more or less the same in all those systems. That's why I stopped looking at benchmarks. Yes I keep buying newer models like the Vector, but not because I expect an extraordinary performance jump. It is more out of academic curiosity.

 

[Pantz]

Hello again, well i got my SSD today. so i am ready to install it. just a refresher WHS

1 install the SSD
2 Check Disk management to see if SSD is is recognized
3 Format SSD ?

44GBs of data will easily migrate to a 128GB SSD - no problems. If this is a Dell system though, it will also migrate the recovery partition because that's where the bootmgr is - if not, you get only the small 100MB system partition. That we can fix later.

Hello again, this is not a dell. its a custom build. so i guess i don't have to shrink the 312 C:\ partition ?

Just install the SSD and run the Samsung migration software reboot, let the migration finish, reboot and change the SSD to the 2nd Boot device after the CD/DVD drive, and its done.?

Thanks in advance.

You got it. No need to shrink. If the data fits, the tool will migrate the C partition and do proper alignments. Check the alignment anyhow once you run from the SSD - just to make sure. http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/113967-ssd-alignment.html?ltr=S

i also remember seeing something about Memory ? i have 8 Gigs DDR 3 installed

 

[Pantz]

Hello again.... This is my Current boot and System Performance.

134676 / 1000 = 135 Seconds on boot up

i also timed it, 65 seconds to windows logo from power on, 60 seconds to full desktop load up.

 

[linnemeyerhere]

Well these numbers are going to be in your distant past. You're going to quantum leap into a whole new speed platform, enjoy.

 

[whs]

I don't know how you plan to deal with the SSD now. I think you plan to migrate your current OS. If you follow the steps in this tutorial, you should have no problems. But if you have questions on any particular step, post back.

Regarding the 8GB of RAM: There are 2 files on your C partition that mirror the RAM. Those are the pagefile and the hiberfile. With 8GB of RAM they occupy 16 GB of SSD space (both together). Since few people use hibernation, I always recommend to get rid of the hiberfile. The command is powercfg -h off. Same for the pagefile. With 8GB of RAM, it will probably hardly ever be used. That's why I recommend to reduce it to 1GB. If you do these 2 actions, you save 15GB of space on your SSD. You can do that before you migrate your OS to the SSD or after.

 

[Pantz]

Hello Again... Phew..... Successfully Cloned SSD Drive........ took all of 7 mins, @ 98MB/sec ..... i need a break.... LOL

 

[whs]

Looks good. With the migration tool it was a piece of cake - chicken, LOL.

 

[Pantz]

Hello again..... LMAO @ WHS....... i can breath now.... just need to make the SSD the Boot Drive now...... i am going to get something to eat.... is there any thing i should be aware of ?

 

[whs]

Look at my prior posting regarding the 8GB of RAM. That may be something you want to consider. In the boot orde, set the SSD second, the CD/DVD reader should always be first. Once you are up and running, post back and tell us how you like it.

You may want to run Atto to see how it is performing. Disk Benchmark | ATTO

 

[Pantz]

Hello Again. i have turned off Both page file and Hibernation as per WHS...

The command is powercfg -h off. Same for the pagefile. With 8GB of RAM, it will probably hardly ever be used. That's why I recommend to reduce it to 1GB. If you do these 2 actions, you save 15GB of space on your SSD. You can do that before you migrate your OS to the SSD or after.[/QUOTE]



I have also downloaded the ATTO Disk Benchmark Software...............i will not reboot untill tomorrow... hopefully my next post will be from the SSD. i would like to thank WHS and others for all their help.

 

[whs]

You are very welcome.

 

[Pantz]

Hello Again... this post is brought to you from my New SSD. been a very interesting morning .. LOL, well i booted up into windows from my SSD Drive. I had to choose the SSD from the BIOS to boot up from.
All went well. See Attachments.

(UNTIL)

So i went back to the BIOS and checked to see if the SSD was there, it was, but it was in the advanced mode of the BIOS. So i just let the machine boot up. It booted up with the HDD and not the SSD, so i then disconnected the HDD, and rebooted, the SSD booted up to the windows Login Screen, but for some reason it would not go to the Desktop. ( not panicking yet LOL )

So i Re attached the HDD and windows wanted me to so a System repair. OK. so i ran the System repair and it was unable to repair the HDD. ( Getting a lil antsy now LOL ). ok so i disconnected the HDD and rebooted With the SSD.... and here i am...... i just completed a Image of the SSD....

I have a few questions about the SSD while i am still here ... as you can see from the Attachments,

1 Samsung magic says should check for a firmware upgrade ?
2 Also what the best Optimization for the SSD ? max performance, max capacity. max readability ?
3 Trim ?. how do i know its set up right ?
4 i understand you should not defrag the SSD ?, how do i turn of defrag

I guess i am going to have to do another Reinstall on the HDD ? unless someone know of a FIX ? ( WHS )

Thanks

 

[Pantz]

Hello again, Oh Other then the issues i had with the previous post. the SSD boot up time was cut in half. the System seems more Responsive. i can hardly hear my Machine now, which it GREAT...... so yeah i am very happy with the SSD

Thanks

 

[Pantz]

Hello again, after a few reboots i am satisfied the SSD is Working Correctly. its the only Drive thats Connected at the moment.

 

[whs]

1. I would not update the firmware unless there is a known problem

2. Max performance sounds best. That must be something Samsung. I have never seen that before

3. For Trim, do this:

Open Command Prompt (Run as administrator) and enter the follow command

fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify

If the result is '0' TRIM is enabled.

4. put defrag into start/search and go from there

 

[kbrady1979]

Like whs said.....you are probably good on the firmware. I have the same options in Samsung Magician and I would configure them manually rather than use pre-configured templates. When you install an SSD in a computer running Windows 7, it automatically turns off the disk defragmenter for THAT drive. It will still automatically defragment mechanical hard drives though.

 

[whs]

When you install an SSD in a computer running Windows 7, it automatically turns off the disk defragmenter for THAT drive

That is definitely true when you make a fresh install on the SSD. The installer will turn defrag off. But I am not sure whether that would apply when you move the OS with an image to the SSD. I never checked that.

 

[kbrady1979]

I think I read in another post a while back that it will detect the SSD in either situation, but I cannot say that as a fact..........glad you brought that up, maybe someone else will chime in and let us know.

 

[COMPUTIAC]

When you install an SSD in a computer running Windows 7, it automatically turns off the disk defragmenter for THAT drive

That is definitely true when you make a fresh install on the SSD. The installer will turn defrag off. But I am not sure whether that would apply when you move the OS with an image to the SSD. I never checked that.

I used Paragon Migrate a few days ago and the answer is No, it does not turn off Defragment to the SSD. It does, list it 1st in the order to defrag.

I turned off the scheduled defragment option.