What people here seem to be making an error on is that they seem to want a "newer W7" -- well for all sorts of reasons it can't reasonably be done --hence the need to design new OS'es. - By the logic expressed on this Forum by some people we'd sill be using XP (assuming we ever got beyond Windows 98 in the first place).
Putting aside small changes like the removal of the "classic" Start Menu and addition of security features like UAC, fundamentally there's nothing different between Windows XP and 7 in their design besides improvements to better support newer hardware (ie: SATA HDDs, and SSDs) and newer BIOS/UEFI software, and improvements to increase general performance.
A "newer Windows 7", which we would indeed love to have, would consist of kernel improvements we've seen in Windows 8 (faster boot tiemz!!!111!11one11!eleven) while keeping the desktop environment of Windows 7 and improving on it even further with improved support for newer hardware/software such as native USB3 support. It's all very reasonable to do and most end-users would prefer that over Windows 8/Metro/RT on desktops and laptops, it's just MS decided to be unreasonable and make us go their way or the highway; personally, I'm taking the highway on this one.
Hi there
Oh Dear -- there's a HUGE difference in XP and W7. For starters W7 has the ability to run (decently) 64 bit hardware although most of it is actually done via WOW (Windows on Windows).
XP did have a 64 bit version but trying to design proper 64 bit drivers and a decent security system was just not on -- as is the standard version of XP -- too many glaring holes in the security system meant that without a radical re-write of the OS XP was never going to survive frequent attacks in the new era.
If you are doing ANY sort of engineering there comes a point whether you can keep plugging leaks / applying patches to essentially an old design or whether you should start again from scratch and design the system taking into account advances in hardware / technology etc.
Even the I/O subsystem of XP had reached its limit -- it doesn't support USB3 or even SATA natively (if you try and install XP on a computer with no IDE drives you'll get the message "No Hard disks found". You have to slipstream the SATA drivers into the install process to make it work). Similarly trying to hive off really fast powerful GPU's away from the standard CPU functions also requires considerable jiggling with the OS to make the multi-tasking work successfully. Some of the modern graphics cards would just blow away the stuff that was around during the (original) lifetime of XP.
Windows 7 whilst a lot newer also has design limitations -- OK for a lot of people who are satisfied with their present hardware -- but the same considerations apply which is why Ms decided to go for an OS that can work in a modular capacity over all sorts of devices.
Another area that requires a whole slew of OS changes is to hive off the WOW (Windows on Windows) element in the OS which effectively means you are running a lot of applications in 32 bit rather than 64 bit mode. W8 is starting to reduce the reliance on WOW - and I would expect to see soon the dropping of the 32 bit OS completely with another kernel method used to run legacy 32 bit applications. This type of stuff requires a total kernel re-design and re-write so any W7 users hoping fr an "Improved" W7 unfortunately are going to be sadly disappointed.
OK some like W8 some don't --however as I've previously said NO ONE HAS to use it - but actually those that DO use it find it's nothing like as bad as the original complaints seemed to make it.
(If you were a Car manufacturer for example would you keep trying to jury rig an old model or would you decide at some point - we can't really upgrade this model any more -- we really DO have to design a new one that incorporates all the latest technological advances).
Cheers
jimbo
My Computer
At a glance
Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and se...Intel i7 Intel i58GB, 16GBOn Motherboard
- Computer type
- PC/Desktop
- Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
- Custom built, several laptops HP/ASUS
- OS
- Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
- CPU
- Intel i7 Intel i5
- Memory
- 8GB, 16GB
- Graphics Card(s)
- On Motherboard
- Sound Card
- Realtek HD audio
- Monitor(s) Displays
- Apple Cinema display, Samsung LCD
- Screen Resolution
- 1920 X 1080
- Hard Drives
- 4 X 1TB SATA
- Mouse
- Toshiba wireless laser
- Internet Speed
- > 20MB up

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