Building a High-end to Mid-end PC

[linnemeyerhere]

I'm running a Samsung 830 series and it's freaking great, they are long gone in the states but you may find one around in your neck o woods and could be at a nice discount....worth asking some local sources and sites?

 

[essenbe]

I own the Samsung 830, Samsung 840 pro and the Crucial. My take on them is, the 840 Pro will out benchmark either one of the others, but mostly because of the higher write speeds. The read speeds on all of them are pretty similar. But, I'm sure Alan owns them too and I agree with him, go with the Samsung 840 Pro rather with the lower priced 840.

 

[kbrady1979]

I finally got all the parts.
Case:
Newegg.ca - COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Mobo:
Newegg.ca - ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
RAM:
Newegg.ca - G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-17000CL9D-8GBXM
CPU:
Newegg.ca - AMD FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor FD8350FRHKBOX
PSU:
Newegg.ca - CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX850 (CMPSU-850AX) 850W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply
HDD:
Newegg.ca - Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
Heatsink: (I couldnt find a better one if you could find one please post it)
Newegg.ca - COOLER MASTER DK9-7E52A-0L-GP CPU Cooler Compatible with AMD AM3/AM2
Card Reader:
Newegg.ca - Rosewill RCR-IC002 74-in-1 USB 2.0 3.5" Internal Card Reader w/ USB port / Extra silver face plate
SSD: (Don't know which one to get)

Please tell me if there is any compatibility issues, I am also maybe reusing my ASUS GTX 650Ti Video Card, DVD-R + RW Drive, and my Crosair CX500 Builders Series with 500Watts which I don't think would be enough. My whole build total is under $800 right now.

PSU: As much as I like that power supply, it is a country mile more than what you'll ever use. Save some money and get something a little more suited to your needs. This is closer to what you need: SeaSonic X650 Gold

HDD: The Seagate 1TB drives are nice, but the sweet spot for capacity/price is probably either the 2 or 3TB model. Actually, I just bought some of the new Seagate 4TB hard drives on sale from Newegg @ $150 each. I know you think you will never use 1TB, but you will probably find that you will, and it is easier to go ahead and buy a bigger drive than buy another drive later and go through testing, and transferring data if you decide to. For just a few dollars more than the 1TB model, you can get double the capacity. At least get the 2TB HDD if not bigger. Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD

SSD: Samsung 840 Pro, OCZ Vector, Plextor M5 Pro, OCZ Vertex 4, Corsair Neutron GTX, Crucial M4. Any of those will blow your mind. They are all reliable, and some of the fastest on the market. Best advice for an SSD is stay away from any with a Sandforce controller, which none of those I listed have.

CPU Cooler: The Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO is probably the best bang for the buck cooler out there. Many people like the Hyper 212 Plus, but I think the newer EVO is better.....and currently cheaper. Just make sure your case has enough internal depth for it. Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

Those are the changes I would make........everything else looks great.

 

[COMPUTIAC]

Amazon has the 840 Pro for less:
Amazon.com: Samsung Electronics 840 Pro Series 2.5-Inch 256 GB SATA 6GB/s Solid State Drive MZ-7PD256BW: Computers & Accessories

It might be a good idea to wait on the CPU cooler, so the final measurement's can be taken after everything is in the case. It will prevent $$ being wasted on a RMA.

 

[Razor505]

I'm running a Samsung 830 series and it's freaking great, they are long gone in the states but you may find one around in your neck o woods and could be at a nice discount....worth asking some local sources and sites?

I own the Samsung 830, Samsung 840 pro and the Crucial. My take on them is, the 840 Pro will out benchmark either one of the others, but mostly because of the higher write speeds. The read speeds on all of them are pretty similar. But, I'm sure Alan owns them too and I agree with him, go with the Samsung 840 Pro rather with the lower priced 840.

I finally got all the parts.
Case:
Newegg.ca - COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Mobo:
Newegg.ca - ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
RAM:
Newegg.ca - G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-17000CL9D-8GBXM
CPU:
Newegg.ca - AMD FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor FD8350FRHKBOX
PSU:
Newegg.ca - CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX850 (CMPSU-850AX) 850W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply
HDD:
Newegg.ca - Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
Heatsink: (I couldnt find a better one if you could find one please post it)
Newegg.ca - COOLER MASTER DK9-7E52A-0L-GP CPU Cooler Compatible with AMD AM3/AM2
Card Reader:
Newegg.ca - Rosewill RCR-IC002 74-in-1 USB 2.0 3.5" Internal Card Reader w/ USB port / Extra silver face plate
SSD: (Don't know which one to get)

Please tell me if there is any compatibility issues, I am also maybe reusing my ASUS GTX 650Ti Video Card, DVD-R + RW Drive, and my Crosair CX500 Builders Series with 500Watts which I don't think would be enough. My whole build total is under $800 right now.

PSU: As much as I like that power supply, it is a country mile more than what you'll ever use. Save some money and get something a little more suited to your needs. This is closer to what you need: SeaSonic X650 Gold

HDD: The Seagate 1TB drives are nice, but the sweet spot for capacity/price is probably either the 2 or 3TB model. Actually, I just bought some of the new Seagate 4TB hard drives on sale from Newegg @ $150 each. I know you think you will never use 1TB, but you will probably find that you will, and it is easier to go ahead and buy a bigger drive than buy another drive later and go through testing, and transferring data if you decide to. For just a few dollars more than the 1TB model, you can get double the capacity. At least get the 2TB HDD if not bigger. Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD

SSD: Samsung 840 Pro, OCZ Vector, Plextor M5 Pro, OCZ Vertex 4, Corsair Neutron GTX, Crucial M4. Any of those will blow your mind. They are all reliable, and some of the fastest on the market. Best advice for an SSD is stay away from any with a Sandforce controller, which none of those I listed have.

CPU Cooler: The Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO is probably the best bang for the buck cooler out there. Many people like the Hyper 212 Plus, but I think the newer EVO is better.....and currently cheaper. Just make sure your case has enough internal depth for it. Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

Those are the changes I would make........everything else looks great.

Amazon has the 840 Pro for less:
Amazon.com: Samsung Electronics 840 Pro Series 2.5-Inch 256 GB SATA 6GB/s Solid State Drive MZ-7PD256BW: Computers & Accessories

It might be a good idea to wait on the CPU cooler, so the final measurement's can be taken after everything is in the case. It will prevent $$ being wasted on a RMA.

I was able to find a local deal for the 840 Pro:
http://otvtech.com/catalogue?page=s...ge_stock.tpl&product_id=16961&category_id=365
http://otvtech.com/catalogue?page=s...ge_stock.tpl&product_id=16284&category_id=365
http://otvtech.com/catalogue?page=s...ge_stock.tpl&product_id=16962&category_id=365
http://otvtech.com/catalogue?page=s...ge_stock.tpl&product_id=16666&category_id=365

 

[Razor505]

Well I have another computer shop that is close by, and I might be able to get a more powerful gaming computer from there for a cheaper price, but I might have to get some stuff from Newegg. Is it okay if someone could help me pick out some parts for my computer? My budget is below $900.
http://otvtech.com/

 

[kbrady1979]

I thought that's what we were doing?

 

[essenbe]

I thought that's what we were doing?

My thoughts exactly.

 

[Layback Bear]

Okay I have been reading this thread for 3 days. What did I miss. Was the first 66 post just a test or what?

 

[Razor505]

I am just choosing parts to find whats best for gaming, but I need help finding parts. But since my budget is around $900, and I pretty much passed it, but then I remembered that my local computer store, had some parts for a cheaper price so I thought if I could get some parts cheaper there, maybe I could get a whole computer built from buying parts from both Newegg and OTV to get a better deal, because the whole time I was looking at Newegg. If you know what I mean

P.S. The first part was not a test.

 

[kbrady1979]

NCIX is big in Canada too, you can look there as well. All of these places have pretty much the same hardware, just make a list of what parts you want, and check around. Make a final list of what you want in this build, and we can go from there.

 

[smarteyeball]

Razor, re-list what you currently have and reusing and re-list what you need.

 

[Razor505]

Razor, re-list what you currently have and reusing and re-list what you need.

-Reusing-
Video Card:
Asus GTX 650 Ti OC Edition 1GB
DVD Drive:
DVD-RW
PSU:
Crosair CX500 Builders Series (Might be getting a new one because its non-modular)
HDD:
Western Digital 250GB
-Have-
CPU:
AMD FX8350
Case:
Cooler Master HAF 912 (Might need to choose another one for more space, my computer desk is small so I need (L)19" x (W) 8" x (H) 17" or anything below)
OS:
Windows 7 x64 Home Premium

-Needed-
Motherboard
PSU
RAM
Heatsink/CPU Cooler
HDD
SSD
Case

Budget: $1000

 

[essenbe]

Use the PSU you have, it is an excellent brand and 100W above the recommended for your Graphics card. If you want modular, you can upgrade later when you can afford it.
Use the motherboard, CPU and Ram you've already picked out.
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 200R Black Steel structure with molded ABS plastic accent pieces ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Newegg.com Should meet your dimension requirements and will fit a CPU cooler up to 160mm in height. The CPU cooler you picked out is 159mm tall, so it will be close, or you could consider this one which is 144mm tall but wider COOLER MASTER GeminII S524 120mm Long Life Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with Intel 2011/1366/1155/775 and AMD FM1/FM2/AM3+ - Newegg.com. I believe you picked G Skill Ripjaws ram which is 40mm tall and the Gemini has 47mm of clearance for the ram. It's within a couple of dollars of the same price. You have a 250GB hard drive and could go for the 128GB version of the samsung 840 Pro. You'll be at or under budget and can upgrade it as you get more money.

Check around for better prices on the same items. Don't neglect Amazon.com. They sell the same products, Just be sure it is sold by Amazon. There is nobody who has better customer service and many times they are slightly cheaper.

 

[Razor505]

Use the PSU you have, it is an excellent brand and 100W above the recommended for your Graphics card. If you want modular, you can upgrade later when you can afford it.
Use the motherboard, CPU and Ram you've already picked out.
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 200R Black Steel structure with molded ABS plastic accent pieces ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Newegg.com Should meet your dimension requirements and will fit a CPU cooler up to 160mm in height. The CPU cooler you picked out is 159mm tall, so it will be close, or you could consider this one which is 144mm tall but wider COOLER MASTER GeminII S524 120mm Long Life Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with Intel 2011/1366/1155/775 and AMD FM1/FM2/AM3+ - Newegg.com. I believe you picked G Skill Ripjaws ram which is 40mm tall and the Gemini has 47mm of clearance for the ram. It's within a couple of dollars of the same price. You have a 250GB hard drive and could go for the 128GB version of the samsung 840 Pro. You'll be at or under budget and can upgrade it as you get more money.

Check around for better prices on the same items. Don't neglect Amazon.com. They sell the same products, Just be sure it is sold by Amazon. There is nobody who has better customer service and many times they are slightly cheaper.

Thanks for the suggestion of the case, but it is a bit too high, but I guess I could live with it. Could you also explain about Cooler Master's HAF cases, are they good? Does it have good cable managements? and Why do they have so many different models like the HAF 912, 922, and their X series, whats the difference between these models?

 

[smarteyeball]

Could you also explain about Cooler Master's HAF cases, are they good? Does it have good cable managements? and Why do they have so many different models like the HAF 912, 922, and their X series, whats the difference between these models?

They are great cases. I also personally love the look ( I had a 932, the precursor to the X).

912 = Small/Mid Tower
922 = Mid Tower
X = Full Tower

It's a matter of size basically.

 

[essenbe]

Could you also explain about Cooler Master's HAF cases, are they good? Does it have good cable managements? and Why do they have so many different models like the HAF 912, 922, and their X series, whats the difference between these models?

They are great cases. I also personally love the look ( I had a 932, the precursor to the X).

912 = Small/Mid Tower
922 = Mid Tower
X = Full Tower

It's a matter of size basically.

+1 I Sold my last computer in a HAF X case. I missed it so much, I bought another one. The 932 is very close to the same as the HAF X, Smarteyeyball explained the rest, pretty well. HAF stands for High Air Flow, and you get plenty of that and they have good cable management. In the HAF X and HAF 932, you can build a rig and still have enough room to put a lawn chair inside. (well, close) You appreciate the room if you're the one having to work inside them and there's no such thing as 'will that fit my case'. But, a lot of people don't like full tower cases, so they made several sizes with various features.

 

[Razor505]

Could you also explain about Cooler Master's HAF cases, are they good? Does it have good cable managements? and Why do they have so many different models like the HAF 912, 922, and their X series, whats the difference between these models?

They are great cases. I also personally love the look ( I had a 932, the precursor to the X).

912 = Small/Mid Tower
922 = Mid Tower
X = Full Tower

It's a matter of size basically.

Could you also explain about Cooler Master's HAF cases, are they good? Does it have good cable managements? and Why do they have so many different models like the HAF 912, 922, and their X series, whats the difference between these models?

They are great cases. I also personally love the look ( I had a 932, the precursor to the X).

912 = Small/Mid Tower
922 = Mid Tower
X = Full Tower

It's a matter of size basically.

+1 I Sold my last computer in a HAF X case. I missed it so much, I bought another one. The 932 is very close to the same as the HAF X, Smarteyeyball explained the rest, pretty well. HAF stands for High Air Flow, and you get plenty of that and they have good cable management. In the HAF X and HAF 932, you can build a rig and still have enough room to put a lawn chair inside. (well, close) You appreciate the room if you're the one having to work inside them and there's no such thing as 'will that fit my case'. But, a lot of people don't like full tower cases, so they made several sizes with various features.

I guess I have to do some renovation on my computer desk to make one of these beasts fit.:roflmao:

 

[Layback Bear]

My basic rules for any computer case.

1. Lots of room which makes it easier to work with and add things later if desired.
2. Lots of fans and possibility to add more if needed.
3. The ability for clean and neat cable management.
4. The ability to access the back of the motherboard for cpu cooler removing without removing the motherboard.
5. A quality brand name you can trust such as HAF, Corsair and a few others.
6. Looks is in the eye of the beholder.
****
Two things all computers hardware have in common is the case they fit in and the prower supply. Chose wisely and don't cheep out on either.

 

[Razor505]

My basic rules for any computer case.

1. Lots of room which makes it easier to work with and add things later if desired.
2. Lots of fans and possibility to add more if needed.
3. The ability for clean and neat cable management.
4. The ability to access the back of the motherboard for cpu cooler removing without removing the motherboard.
5. A quality brand name you can trust such as HAF, Corsair and a few others.
6. Looks is in the eye of the beholder.
****
Two things all computers hardware have in common is the case they fit in and the prower supply. Chose wisely and don't cheep out on either.

1. I agree with my Acer has no room left in it, since the GTX 650 Ti is pushing onto the side panel
2. I only got 1 fan in the back, 3 if you count the CPU and the GPU
3. No cable room left, I just tied everything up to the drive bays, and the RAM sticks are pushed down from the PSU wires
4., 5., 6. I might as well go with a HAF 922 and just take the drawer off the computer desk.