Can I use my laptop Windows 7 code elsewhere now I bought Windows 8?

[rogerthat]

Can I use my laptop Windows 7 code on a new desktop I just built, as I bought a separate independent Windows 8 Disk set (32/64) from Amazon for the laptop last month and it runs great now?

(i.e. a Windows 7 OS of mine is going unused; and I need an OS for my new desktop) (only a few days till Activation day)

Or

Should I wipe my laptop hard drive and install the windows 7 on that and re-register the Windows 8 for my new desktop.

I mean Are Microsoft so bothered about which of my computers which OS is on?

I just dont want to mess about too much; MS caused me hundreds of hours of difficulties already; over the years (anyone remember the MS Office smashing documents all over the place when Office 2007 autosaved open Office Word 2000 Docs??). Weeks of destroyed documents I had to fix or lose and re-write (hundreds of pages) until a fix/update came along.

:huh:

 

[Bongo]

If the laptop came preinstalled with Windows 7 is most likely a OEM which is tied to that laptop motherboard if that is the case then no you cannot transfer it to your new build, if it is a retail version of Windows 7 then you can.

As you said you have installed Windows 8 on it did you buy a retail or a OEM copy of Windows 8?

If you installed and activated the Windows 8 and it is an OEM it is most likely tied to the laptop now also so you may not be able to wipe the laptop and put it on the new build.

Jerry

 

[rogerthat]

If the laptop came preinstalled with Windows 7 is most likely a OEM which is tied to that laptop motherboard if that is the case then no you cannot transfer it to your new build, if it is a retail version of Windows 7 then you can.

As you said you have installed Windows 8 on it did you buy a retail or a OEM copy of Windows 8?

If you installed and activated the Windows 8 and it is an OEM it is most likely tied to the laptop now also so you may not be able to wipe the laptop and put it on the new build.

Jerry

Hi Jerry,

The 7 came with the laptop (OEM); but I bought the W7 ULTIMATE Update Retail. (I was forced to buy the Ultimate UPGRADE because the laptop could not get into ENGLISH any other way).

The Windows 8 Pro is a retail version.


ALSO; I already had to re-activate the Windows 7 to that laptop after the motherboard fried in the summer after the Tsunami here (Japan) when we were not supposed to use Air-con.

 

[Bongo]

I am not sure the ULTIMATE UPGRADE can be moved because it's tied to the OEM Windows 7. Was it and Upgrade or a retail?

But it sounds like you need to put Windows 7 back on the laptop and Windows 8 on the Desktop.

Jerry

 

[gregrocker]

In addition if Ultimate is Anytime Upgrade, it must be used to Upgrade only a Win7 lesser version. If that lesser version you've upgraded came with that laptop then it can't move.

If it's not Anytime Upgrade but a retail Upgrade Win7 to move to another PC it would need a qualifying XP or Vista, even though neither would need to be installed. Just boot the installer, if its sees no other OS on the drive it will refuse Upgrade version key during install, so wait until afterwards to do the quick Option Two workaround in Clean Install with a Upgrade Windows 7 Version.

 

[rogerthat]

I am not sure the ULTIMATE UPGRADE can be moved because it's tied to the OEM Windows 7. Was it and Upgrade or a retail?

But it sounds like you need to put Windows 7 back on the laptop and Windows 8 on the Desktop.

Jerry

The ULTIMATE upgrade is a small black box with a rounded corner with a code in it. I dont know what version it is as its all written in Kanji, which I cant read.
e.g. Something like this;-
Windows 7の究極の箱入りのアップグレード版

And darn it, I was hoping for an alternative. Its a lot of work that, I can get more money from working, that the ten hours it will consume of my life trying to do that switcheroo. Microsoft really SEEM to have studied how to get customer to buy twice/thrice (I already have a spare Vista and two 32-bit Windows XP and a few unused copies of Millennium in my stash), knowing the difficulties they code/arrange into the product line.

C'est la vie. No easy solutions. Many thanks for your considerations though. I will look at the link in your other post; not sure what that is yet though.

Lets hope Toyota/Ford/Renault/Ferrari dont eventually follow suit with Microsoft, and prevent you selling your car to someone else; or ban you from changing the garage or engine.

 

[PeaB4YouGo]

(I already have a spare Vista and two 32-bit Windows XP and a few unused copies of Millennium in my stash), knowing the difficulties they code/arrange into the product line.

There's your answer. Put Vista on the desktop, then upgrade to Ultimate. Put 8 on your laptop and you're golden.

 

[gregrocker]

If you upgraded Windows 7 lower version to Ultimate then this is normally done by Anytime Upgrade which merely unlocks the few extra features in Ultimate from the OS which you had, and can still revert to at any time by clean reinstalling.

Anytime Upgrade cannot be used to do a Clean Install, or to upgrade from XP or Vista.

It would need to be a retail Windows 7 Upgrade disk to upgrade Vista or XP.

What is in the Upgrade package? It should have a product key. Does it also have a disk? Can you boot that disk and does it proceed as shown in Clean Install Windows 7 ?

 

[rogerthat]

(I already have a spare Vista and two 32-bit Windows XP and a few unused copies of Millennium in my stash), knowing the difficulties they code/arrange into the product line.

There's your answer. Put Vista on the desktop, then upgrade to Ultimate. Put 8 on your laptop and you're golden.

What I said in my last post about `I get more money from Working` meant that `for me`, it is quicker and easier to buy another copy of Windows 8 for all the time and hassle it will take to fix everything afterwards from going via older OS systems. W8 Pro is around $100 here. I think I can go the W8 `Update` route?; or will the fact that I have not `Activated` Win 7 yet cause me yet more problems? (As I recall ULTIMATE upgrade giving me a similar denial to Upgrade as W7 is not activated yet?). Maybe I should just buy a new W7 key...which is almost the same price as a W8 licence.

`Magic button`, doko des ka?

Exasperated. As I have spent dozens of hours sorting all the software and files these past few days.

At least you answered my question fully ("Are Microsoft so bothered about which of my computers which OS is on?" [the answer being;- `Ja, ve do not vant you ze cuztomer yuzing ze diffrent mozerboardt for ze produkt you rent; Seig Heil`).

Gotta see the funny side.

 

[gregrocker]

Just answer all the questions I asked and we will sort out what you have. There is no reason to be in doubt.

Once again, Win7 is upgraded only using Anytime Upgrade which is merely a Product Key that is inserted to unlock the few extra expensive features (like Language packs) in the higher version. But if you have AU then it cannot be used from Vista or XP - it must have a lower version of Win7.

 

[rogerthat]

Just answer all the questions I asked and we will sort out what you have. There is no reason to be in doubt.

Once again, Win7 is upgraded only using Anytime Upgrade which is merely a Product Key that is inserted to unlock the few extra expensive features (like Language packs) in the higher version. But if you have AU then it cannot be used from Vista or XP - it must have a lower version of Win7.

We are on crossed paths slightly; so I will try one last time.

1) I`m not going to put Vista on my Dynabook (and try the Ultimate update bought in Japan [Which I bought for Windows 7 Japanese (and the Vista is English)]). I have a better alternative. I think. It should be obvious?

2) I have already put an English .iso Windows 7 Home Premium back on my i7 laptop. Its running now. Had to get all the Toshiba drivers/Progs back. Most of them anyway.

3) I can Install the non-OEM DVD version of Windows 8 Pro I bought from Amazon (not OEM), which I can register onto the New i5 PC. It came with 2-discs (32 & 64 bit).

4) Only problem may be that I cannot find a JAPANESE Windows 7 Home Premium (or any version) of the ISO anywhere on Earth. I can find spanish and Italian and Korean versions. But not Japanese.

So,
When I go to Register/Activate the Genuine code on my laptop I get the Microsoft middle finger again. And again. And.... you get the picture for days and ...

Is the problem:-

A) Because the Windows 7 Home Premium Codes was for a Japanese version of Windows 7 Home Premium only?
OR
B) Is it because I have not `De-Registered/De-Activated the Windows 8 Code from the laptop? And Microsoft registration process will not let a new OS register on top of an existing OS (a security measure?)?
OR
C) ???

 

[AddRAM]

Ya your partiticular key might only work with Japanese, it`s a region thing.

The closest I can find here is Korean.

Official Windows 7 SP1 ISO from Digital River « My Digital Life

 

[gregrocker]

No one even slightly suggested you put Vista on any PC, nor would anyone I know suggest such a thing. In fact I specfically showed you how to use XP or Vista as a qualifying OS for Upgrade version (if applicable) without having to install it since some advice given you was unclear on that.
If you reimported "all the Toshiba programs" back into a Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7 then it defeated the purpose of doing one since this is meant to get rid all of the bloatware and duplicate factory utilties which interfere with better versions built into Win7. You really don't even have native perfect Win7 until you do the actual Clean Reinstall shown in the tutorial, which discusses whether any OEM software is really required. Did you read it?

Is the touchscreen tablet OS you mention installing going on a touchscreen PC? If not I would stick with Win7 which works best on non-touchscreens.

As Brian says, languages are most often restricted to regional groups, although there are some exceptions. What you might try is pleading your case with MS during activation: How To Activate Windows 7 by Phone Step-by-Step Guide . Let us know what they say, especially about there being no Japanese version available that you can find.

 

[rogerthat]

Ya your partiticular key might only work with Japanese, it`s a region thing.

The closest I can find here is Korean.

Official Windows 7 SP1 ISO from Digital River « My Digital Life

Thank you for looking.
However, I also already tried there.
And it would be a nightmare of a gamble trying to install in Korean; far worse than trying to decipher the Enigma Code.

 

[rogerthat]

No one even slightly suggested you put Vista on any PC, nor would anyone I know suggest such a thing. In fact I specfically showed you how to use XP or Vista as a qualifying OS for Upgrade version (if applicable) without having to install it since some advice given you was unclear on that.

Thank you for your enduring patience. I really did not want to install my by-passed Vista disc and did not know I would not have to install it and use wishful thinking that the Japanese Ultimate Upgrade would get that English Windows Vista to register and update to Windows 7 Ultimate using some Star Wars Jedi force? , when the English Version of Windows 7 will not register on the Windows 7 laptop that came with the Japanese version pre-installed.

If you reimported "all the Toshiba programs" back into a Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7 then it defeated the purpose of doing one since this is meant to get rid all of the bloatware and duplicate factory utilties which interfere with better versions built into Win7. You really don't even have native perfect Win7 until you do the actual Clean Reinstall shown in the tutorial, which discusses whether any OEM software is really required. Did you read it?

In response; can I say that the Windows 7 iso does not have and drivers on it beyond the basic set to get the thing booted up in 800x600. No LAN internet, no sound, no nothing.
I downloaded and installed all the Toshiba programs and chipset drivers and can use the laptop on 720p again and get the internet with LAN and wirelessly now. With HD sound.

Is the touchscreen tablet OS you mention installing going on a touchscreen PC? If not I would stick with Win7 which works best on non-touchscreens.

Touchscreen?
I never mentioned touchscreen. Although my wife can pick bugs off the screen like a frog.

As Brian says, languages are most often restricted to regional groups, although there are some exceptions. What you might try is pleading your case with MS during activation: How To Activate Windows 7 by Phone Step-by-Step Guide . Let us know what they say, especially about there being no Japanese version available that you can find.

I did suggest what you think Brian thinks.
And you are right; nobody here can find a free downloadable ISO of Windows 7 in Japanese. You would have to be an expert in Kanji to have a hope.
Example (if you are even only `reasonable at speaking Japanese` you still cannot read the following Kanji [and `Alphabet of up to 60,000 `Characters`]).
携帯電話で縦撮りした動画の向きを修正、必要な箇所の切り抜き(カット編集)必要部分の拡大表示(クロップ)、彩度コントラスト調整、透かし、テキスト追加等、シンプルで高性能なビデオ編集機能を搭載。

But the other two Japanse alphabets (Hiragana and Katakana) I can just about read. But useless to find what may be essential.
A Japanese/English interpretor comes on duty in 5-minutes at Microsoft Japan product registration. Back to the wheel.

 

[gregrocker]

Win8 is best installed on a touchscreen, and is IMO not a desktop OS at all.

It explains how to handle drivers in Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7. In fact the portions pertaining to drivers are in bold red type so you wouldn't miss them.

Let us know what MS Phone Activation says. You may need to explain to them fully what you need to do.

 

[rogerthat]

Still on the phone with Microsoft who tell me that Toshiba are responsible for the software that Microsoft sell.
But I paid for Microsoft Windows Home Premium, not Toshiba Home Premium. And I register with Microsoft, not Toshiba.
The warranty for the hardware the Microsoft Home Premium on the Toshiba laptop ran out after one year; the onus then reverts to Microsoft for the softare.

So, what the company is doing is a con because Toshiba do not cover warrantly after a year for hardware; and especially not for Microsoft software.

Microsoft send us to toshiba and Toshba send us to Microsoft who send us back to Toshiba.

Now the Microsoft representative keeps telling us that Toshiba is responsible for the licence and they have to provide us with a download, and yet the other day Toshiba told us that Microsoft is responsible for providing us with the download the Microsoft software for our Windows 7 Japanese Home Preminum licence.

We have paid for the licence to use the software; but they both refuse to provide a place to get a download/copy after the HDD hardware with the install has failed after the Toshiba warranty ran out.

Toshiba want $350 for a non-SSD HDD with Windows 7 on it (but I dont want to buy a HDD out of warranty); and Microsoft want $100 or more.

 

[SIW2]

A) Because the Windows 7 Home Premium Codes was for a Japanese version of Windows 7 Home Premium only?

Not sure, first I heard of that.

If you really want a Japanese version, I think I have it. Which bit version?

 

[SIW2]

The OP obviously doesn't want it.

 

[rogerthat]

Microsoft Japan customer support said Microsoft do not have to provide what the customer paid for via the licence.

I have a legthy recording.

After a long time of discussing the law on contractual obligations, Microsoft then pretended to not be on the phone; and after a couple of minutes I had not put the phone down they started saying the same Microsoft fraudulent tirade over and over again.
e.g. "Toshiba have to provide you with the Windows 7 software, not Micorosft" etc...

But Toshiba said on the phone that after the warranty runs out, then Microosft is who should provide the Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium part of the software. Toshiba still provide their own part of the Toshiba software and drivers for the hardware parts years after the warranty has run out.

Microsoft Japan just said they don`t provide the Windows 7 Home Premium software the licese pays for. Then they hung up the phone.