Take Ownership tweak removes Run as Admin

[tylor]

Hi Guys,

I am about to reformat my system and reinstall all programs and settings etc.. One question I have is around the registry tweak to add a "Take Ownership" icon to the right click contect menu.

I generally install this tweak as it's extremely useful and saves messing around with calcs commands. It seems however that once this is done in Windows 7 RTM 64 it replaces the icon to run as administrator (which is also extremely useful).

Is there a way to keep both icons/features in the context menu?

Thanks in advance
Tylor

 

[jfar]

Try this.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/1911-take-ownership-shortcut.html?ltr=T

 

[tylor]

Apologies if I have missed something here but the link you posted is simply what I already use and am referring to.

When I implement the tweak it does add the take ownership to the context menu which is great, the downside is that it overwrites the 'run as admin' context menu. My question was asking if it is possible to have both context menu's on the right click option.
Kind Regards
Tylor

 

[DeaconFrost]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but why would you need a tweak to take ownership of files on your own system? The only time taking ownership should be an issue, is if you pulled a drive from another system and attached it, and needed to pull files out of some of the previous system's sys volume.

Once you get all files transferred to your system, you shouldn't ever need to take ownership of them again. Ownership is a permissions issue, that can be resolved once, and it sticks.

 

[tylor]

There are several times you may wish to take ownership of protected files.

Say I want to add a custom theme to my Media Centre backdrop, if I try and edit a file like ehres.dll Windows will throw an error advising that I do not have the sufficient rights to do this.

 

[DeaconFrost]

Wouldn't that be more related to UAC, and not taking ownership? I'd be willing to bet, as a test, if you disabled/lowered UAC, you wouldn't see those prompts. Taking ownership of a file/directory is making a change to the actual permissions...a permanent change, not a temporary one that UAC handles.

 

[tylor]

I'm afraid Not, I don't use UAC at all.

I know all about changing file properties and access rights per user group. Unfortunately there are still certain files that you need to take ownership of which is why the tweak was developed to make the process easier.

If you try and alter the file permissions for ehres.dll for example via the standard method by right clicking and selecting properties - Security - Permissions, you will just get an error message.

 

[DeaconFrost]

Well, I'll be damned. I did get the error message. I guess it's a good thing I don't go mucking with system files.

I'm still feeling the pain from the whole "taking ownership" fiasco that's been going on since Vista's release, where people would actually store their data on the system volume, and then move it to another computer, encountering permissions issues because they didn't set the new system up with the same username and password. When I see "taking ownership", and I'm done convulsing, I assume it has to do with just that...taking ownership in the permissions. I've never seen it called taking ownership for something temporary like this. Ah well, good to know, should I decide to edit any system files.

 

[Snufffed]

I use "Take Ownership" via right click and also "Run as Admin" via Right click.

It depends on the type of file which shows... are you sure you lost "Run as Admin"?

find - locate an .exe file then right click..."Run as Admin" should be there.

 

[Brink]

Tylor,

As Snuffy posted, the Take Ownership shortcut will be added to the context menu for all folders and files in Vista. The application files, (ex: EXE, CMD, MSI), will still have Run as administrator in addition to Take Ownership when you right click on them. Non application files (ex: txt, jpg) never had Run as administrator in their context menu.

Hope this helps,
Shawn

 

[kenabi]

taking ownership of files may also be needed to circumvent a few existing bugs involving start menu icon creation, network profile saving, etc.

it comes in handy now and again ;o

 

[tylor]

Tylor,

As Snuffy posted, the Take Ownership shortcut will be added to the context menu for all folders and files in Vista. The application files, (ex: EXE, CMD, MSI), will still have Run as administrator in addition to Take Ownership when you right click on them. Non application files (ex: txt, jpg) never had Run as administrator in their context menu.

Hope this helps,
Shawn

I wish that was the case Shawn, but as you can see from the screenshot I only have the take ownership item

http://www.wezsweb.com/web-clipart/TakeOwnership.jpg

 

[Snufffed]

Strange because when I go to REGEDIT I have RUN AS ADMIN not take ownership.

where did you get your copy of 7600.?

Are you logged in as Admin?

are you the only user?

 

[Brink]

Strange indeed. If you press and hold Shift, then right click on it, do you have it?

 

[tylor]

My RTM build is from my MSDN subscription, I have also just re-formatted and installed freash to try and solve my problem with corrupt recycle bins.

After reapplying the take ownership reg tweak I still loose the run as admin. I am logged into my account which is an admin account (but obviously not THEY admin account).

If I hold shift it does give the extra option to Run As a different user but not sure what to type here, as typing administrator doesnt work!

 

[tylor]

Can I ask where/which take ownership tweak you used so I can ensure I used the same registry settings?

Thanks in advance
Tylor

 

[Tews]

Can I ask where/which take ownership tweak you used so I can ensure I used the same registry settings?

Thanks in advance
Tylor

Brinks tutorial and link -=> Here

 

[tylor]

Ok so I uninstalled the take ownership reg tweak I implemented and tried the one posted above, unfortunately the same problem occurs - Take Ownership works great but run as admin is missing.

So I checked the tutorial section of the forum in relation to context menu tweaks and I have managed to implement a work-around so I can have both features on the right click context menu.
:->

 

[Brink]

Tylor,

I'm happy to hear that you got it sorted, but the Take Ownership contect menu addition from either location below should have both "Take Ownership" and "Run as Administrator" in the context menu for application files.

Context Menu - Take Ownership - Vista Forums

or

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/1911-take-ownership-shortcut.html

 

[tylor]

Yeah I fully expected the tweak to do as you suggested and leave both options available, but as you can see from my screen shot it didn't. As soon as I install the take ownership tweak I loose the function to run as admin when right clicking a .exe file! strange I know, at least I have now got a work-around...

Thanks for your suggestions... now I just need to crack the corrupt recycle bin errors ;->