Solved Re-purposing an old hard drive

[Senator]

I have an old hard drive that was originally drive C in my laptop so it contained a recovery partition, a data partition and a couple of other smaller partitions. I'm admittedly confused about partitions, formatting, etc.

I'd like to use the drive to either be a new drive C and install Windows 7 or as an external data / backup device. I'm afraid I may have erased or corrupted some important files or partitions on the drive because I am unable to install Windows 7 on it.

I was hoping someone could either explain or point me to instructions for how I can return the drive to the condition it was in when it came from the hard drive manufacturer (not the laptop manufacturer).

Many thanks

 

[ignatzatsonic]

I was hoping someone could either explain or point me to instructions for how I can return the drive to the condition it was in when it came from the hard drive manufacturer (not the laptop manufacturer).

Is it now connected to a PC of some type? If not, do you know how to connect it?

Do you have any reason to believe it is broken or defective?

If not broken, the general procedure would be to simply "reformat" the drive. That will wipe out all existing partitions and data. The drive would then be as it was from the hard drive manufacturer, less any wear and tear.

You'd connect it to another PC and then reformat using certain menus within Windows, taking care to select the drive in question and NOT SOME OTHER DRIVE.

You'd be left with an empty drive containing a single partition.

Here's a tutorial:

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/168358-format-hdd-usb.html

 

[BJB]

Just to clarify, use Windows Disk Management by typing diskmgmt.msc in Start > Search, right clicking and deleting each partition on the drive and then creating a new simple volume.

Be very sure you are deleting on the right disk

 

[Senator]

Here is what the drive looks like.



Because I am not confident in my understanding of formatting, partitioning, boot records, file managers, etc., I don't know if I should format both Drive L and Drive M. They are both on the same physical drive. Notice that drive M is a recovery partition from when this was Drive C in my old laptop. I believe the Recovery partition contains Windows XP, which I have no interest in using or saving.

What should I do with each of the four partitions?

Cheers

 

[ignatzatsonic]

What should I do with each of the four partitions?

IF, I say IF, repeat IF you want to clean that drive completely and put it in the state it was when it was built, you would DELETE all of those partitions.

That would leave you with 100 percent unallocated space.

You'd then make a partition (volume) from that unallocated space and format it.

You could then do what you want with the drive--put Windows on it, put data on it, etc.

Choose the "NTFS" file system when you format.

 

[Sergeant Steve]

Actually there are only three partitions, between the first and second there is 8Mb that is unallocated.

However the easiest thing to to is what BJB said to do. That is to right click drive L and drive M (separately) & left click Delete Volume, you will be notified that you will lose any data stored on these partitions, click OK or Yes, also delete that 1Gb partition at the end of the drive, no drive letter assigned to it so I assume you haven't written anything important there.

Once you have deleted all the partitions, again following what BJB said, right click the drive and left click Create New Simple Volume. It should automatically set it to be the maximum amount of space available, also not that it shows available space to partition in MB, as against GB as you may expect, so it can be confusing to people not expecting a large number.

Good luck, if you're still not sure after you've deleted the three partitions then post another screenshot of what you have left.

 

[Senator]

This is a bit embarrassing. Could someone tell me how to use the Quote feature on this forum? I've just spent the last two hours and can't seem to figure it out.

But back to the issue at hand. Let's say that I plan to perform the steps we have been discussing using this computer, the one I'm on now, where the drive is currently connected. But I plan to use the drive in my other computer, a laptop, as the new Drive C, and I plan to install Windows 7 from a DVD.

Just to be clear, there is nothing on the drive now I want to keep, unless it is needed for some system-level function, like a master boot record or some basic file manager or directory. There is no data I need to save.

Should I delete all "volumes" all "partitions" so there is only one partition remaining?

If I intend to load Windows 7, should I create a new Recovery partition. If so, how big should it be? Is it a separate volume or just a partition?

Sorry to be so ignorant or anal about this.

Many thanks

 

[Senator]

Sorry, but I have no idea what you mean here "See the Youtube. The next one to the left # the next one is Quote."

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Just to be clear, there is nothing on the drive now I want to keep, unless it is needed for some system-level function, like a master boot record or some basic file manager or directory. There is no data I need to save.

Should I delete all "volumes" all "partitions" so there is only one partition remaining?

If I intend to load Windows 7, should I create a new Recovery partition. If so, how big should it be? Is it a separate volume or just a partition?

Yes, you should delete all partitions.

That will NOT leave you with one partition.

It will leave you with NO partitions. Just unallocated space. Unallocated space is NOT a partition.

You cannot create a recovery partition. That's something that manufacturers like HP and Dell do.

To install Windows, you'd then boot from the Windows installation disc with the drive connected. At that moment, the drive is 100 percent unallocated space.

You'd come to a screen where you are asked "where do you want to install Windows"? You choose the unallocated space. Windows will then automatically format that space and make partitions as necessary. You'd end up with a very small "system reserved" partition and a very large C partition covering the rest of the drive.

Alternatively, you could first make a single partition from that unallocated space and then tell Windows to install to that single partition. You'd end up with no system reserved and just a single C partition.

Either way will work. Take your pick. One way you have a system reserved and C. The other way you have just C. Most people have both system reserved and C. I don't.

For practical purposes, you can consider partitions and volumes as synonyms. Drives are not partitions. Partitions are not drives. Unallocated space is just that and nothing more.

Here's an analogy: a drive is an empty cigarette carton, originally containing only unallocated space. The cigarette packs within the carton are analogous to partitions within the drive. If you remove one pack of cigarettes from a full carton, you have 9 partitions left and some unallocated space where the 10th pack used to be.

 

[Layback Bear]

I remove that post because it was to hard to understand.

From your post #7

This is a bit embarrassing. Could someone tell me how to use the Quote feature on this forum? I've just spent the last two hours and can't seem to figure it out.

I was trying to give instruction on how to post a QUOTE.

You will get this

when you tick on the quote in your replies.
Right tick between the two center brackets and paste the quote.



Sorry if I got in the way.

 

[Senator]

OK, now the drive looks like this...



I did not attempt to format the drive. Is it ready to go into the laptop and install Windows 7?

Thanks

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Looks OK to me. I'm assuming it's not broken and has the appropriate connectors. Boot from the Windows installation disc. Within a few screens you'll come to one that asks "where do you want to install Windows"? You point Windows to that unallocated space.

 

[Senator]

Sorry if I got in the way.

No worries. I think I may have it! I'm doing a Quick Reply so I can't preview.

Cheers

 

[Senator]

Looks OK to me. I'm assuming it's not broken and has the appropriate connectors. Boot from the Windows installation disc. Within a few screens you'll come to one that asks "where do you want to install Windows"? You point Windows to that unallocated space.

Well, it didn't go very well. Perhaps there is a problem with the drive. The installation was "cancelled" and the error message reads....

"Windows cannot install required files. Make sure all files required for installation are available, and restart the installation. Error code: 0x8007045D"

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Describe what you are installing from:

A burned disc your friend gave you?

A factory disk you got from Ebay?

A USB thumb drive with installation files you got somewhere?

A burned disc you made from something?

A factory disk you bought from Best Buy?

Tell us about its pedigree with as much detail as you can provide.

When you begin the installation, you should only have 1 hard drive connected: the one to which you are installing Windows. Any others should be disconnected.

Since this drive was originally in a laptop, it could have some hidden code on it that is interfering. You could get rid of that code.

To what ports is this hard drive connected?

 

[Layback Bear]

Sorry if I got in the way.

No worries. I think I may have it! I'm doing a Quick Reply so I can't preview.

Cheers

Well done.
I will get out of youalls hair and go back to watching.

 

[Slartybart]

See if this helps the process along:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/219487-clean-reinstall-factory-oem-windows-7-a.html
Create your install media as detailed in Steps# 1 & 2
Read and ask questions first so you get a better idea of what you'll be doing.

 

[Senator]

UPDATE: I have put the disk in question aside because it may have hardware issues. However, I have another disk with the same lineage (former drive C on my laptop). I followed the instructions as recommended and it worked!

Perhaps I should mark this thread as "Solved", but I'm going to press on unless one of you think otherwise.

Windows 7 is running on the laptop and looks good. Thank you.

Next, I want to install / Recover a Windows 7 Image I created on this computer to the laptop. I'll deal with the license key later. I'm more interested in the process right now. Here is what the drive looks like when it is attached to this computer.



The disk containing the Image files is now connected to the laptop through a USB enclosure.

When I go through these steps: Control Panel > System and Security > Backup and Restore, under the Restore section I see the message "Windows could not find a backup for this computer". Even though I can see it clearly in Windows Explorer.

If I use the Advanced feature, I can navigate to the folder by simply typing "E:" and it automatically completes the path "E:\WindowsImageBackup". However, when I select the path and it is in the Browse box, the "OK" button will not turn active. My only option is Cancel.

Where do you suppose I have gone wrong?

Cheers

 

[Slartybart]

If you're interested in the process, it would be better to start with an image from the laptop.

It's not just the licensing you'll have to deal with, it's all of the drivers. Possibly fighting BSODs or other boot issues.

The image you created is not for that laptop and won't be available for restore. The image tags the computer name and probably lots of other information specific to the machine when the image was created.

There might be a way to fool restore, but I don't know it or recommend it.

 

[BJB]

I believe the WindowsImageBackups created by Win 7 are rather different from backups created by third party imaging software such as Acronis or Macrium Reflect. The latter can be restored to any computer - though that doesn't necessarily mean they will work - but system images created by Win 7 are limited to being restored to the computer they were created on. This may be Microsoft trying to protect users from restoring images that aren't suitable, :sarc: or just maybe it's to try to stop ppl from cloning licensed installations.

You could of course re-image using Macrium and do it that way.

Sorry Slartybart, I'm sort of duplicating what you have said, I'm just a lot slower