Win7 to Win10 Possibilities?

[despuit]

My problem with the new operating system is the metro UI. I don't understand the point of it all beyond the potential of stream lining devices of all forms through cloud based applications or whatever means they're thinking of. Is so simple I find it's counter productive. Like the main reason for hardware improvements is not because of video rendering, or development rather multi-tasking. Most main stream websites, and applications take your pc spit on it and start to choke it till the point it is about to die, let it catch its breathe and goes again. I am not a bell and whistle sort of person and I if I want to multitask I don't need a million things up to do so. And if I do need a lot resource intensive programs there are methods to put them into sleep when you switch out of them to reserve memory instead of how windows handles it.

Windows 8 seemed to be developed for the average run of the mill person with no more thought outside of facebook, and playing bejeweled or whatever it is. Then all the data saves to the app data folder and is just a nightmare personally. Like if I had windows 8 I would set up another computer for the people I know to use because all they would do is download apps and kill it with bloat ware. Though the performance increases of it was impressive regarding boot times and that.

Though I find with every revision they add new layers to their modules and it just makes doing things take longer. Windows XP to 7 was pretty straight forward though when I used 8 I was at a lost. I just want a run command or a command prompt and I'd be happy. Then having the ability to change every file as I will it. As it is now a lot of things I want to do with Windows 7 are still unanswerable, why move up to another revision to have a million other problems. Until the day software support goes out the window to the point I can no longer do things I need to do day to day will not give it up.

Winodws 10 does seem to bring back the functionality of Windows we've grown accustom too. And is how windows is take two steps forward and one step back. Though I don't particulary like the steps forward they made, and am glad they took the step back. Though Windows 11 or 12 I don't look forward to it at all.

With whatever inprovements they make like Windows 8 with the boot times there are ways to replicate this on older systems just takes a little of bit intuitive thinking. Windows 7 is about 40 seconds normally not end of the world to logon completely. But if set up a partition or a usb to store data of the computer on it when it shutdowns so adds a bit of time to the shutdown it will use that data to do quick boots.

I like windows xp, and would still be using it today had it been installed. The only thing I see from xp to 7 is how they handle memory operations even then like I'd say I'd be tempted to downgrade to windows xp over upgrading to the new stuff. Everything loads instantaneously now as it is, no lags nothing. Boots fast, no need to upgrade. Simple as that.

 

[ThrashZone]

Win-10 will replace 8.1 for me personally,
7 will still be here on another ssd

I believe with a custom install 10 is pretty good and then get all of the apps out of the way,

Funny thing now that I can finally stack pinned start menu items in a single column,
Microsoft goes and makes the start menu twice as wide
There you have the one step forward and one step back lol

 

[PeaB4YouGo]

To quote the System Requirements page for Win10: "To access the Windows Store and to download and run apps, you need an Internet connection, a screen resolution of at least 1024 x 768, and a Microsoft account."

What constitutes a Microsoft Acct? Is it as simple as having a hotmail account?

 

[mxia123]

I installed it the beginning of October and haven't been back to Windows 7 since. It is faster, feels more modern, and I like the Explorer improvements including graphing of copy operations. I thought I'd miss Aero but haven't. I find using my MS Account to Log On unintrusive, so I can root User folders in Skydrive as a convenient way to backup and sync devices easily.

For desktop users, the Windows 8 style apps are pushed to the side of a real Start menu where they can be trialed, ignored, hidden or uninstalled. But so far I like the Mail app where i've merged all 5 of my web mailboxes in one GUI which alerts me with a chime and "toast" popup when I have mail and from whom.

So for this desktop user appalled by how MS in Windows 8 seemed to abandon a billion customers who they had raised on the desktop, it offers a solid and logical successor to Windows 7 with enough improvement to justify transition in due time. What's more, even though it's not even in beta yet, it is as stable as Win7 ever was up to the RTM.

thanks for the detailed information! definitely getting the feeling that i must give it a try

 

[mxia123]

To quote the System Requirements page for Win10: "To access the Windows Store and to download and run apps, you need an Internet connection, a screen resolution of at least 1024 x 768, and a Microsoft account."

What constitutes a Microsoft Acct? Is it as simple as having a hotmail account?

yes, it does. a microsoft account may be a @hotmail or @live email address of yours. of course there were more, but i cannot seem to recall

 

[Slartybart]

My problem with the new operating system is the metro UI.
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That is the problem then - not understanding.
Since Win8 (8.1) there has been a great misunderstanding. I've been running Win8.1 for about 10 months and only use the Modern GUI as a very large start menu. It really isn't operationally that much different from the Win7 start menu. The GUI is different (bigger and better, IMO).

Pin to Start Screen is the same as Pin to Start (often used programs)
Apps is the same as All Programs

It takes some adjustment and acceptance to use the Start Screen - but as I said, it's bigger and better, IMO

The Modern Apps are for the most part duplicates of desktop apps, newer in function and form. I uninstalled the duplicates and exclusively use the desktop apps. So there isn't any change from Win7 to Win8 except where and how my list of programs are located and launched. Really not that much of a difference - I still open something, find the application I want and click it to launch it.

Almost everything you could do in Win7 you can still do in Win8.

I never understood why people talked about these things before they understood Win8.

This is a thread about Win7 to Win10 possibilities and with the January Technical Preview release of Win10, it stands on it's own. From what I've seen, it improves on an already improve OS, including the GUI. There's still work that MS has to do, but Win10 has grown up and is separate from the Win8 base.

Once you understand how things are organized in Win8.1, it will be easier to appreciate that and understand Win10.

It's everyone's decision on what OS gets installed and operated on their machine.
Win7, Win8.1 and Win10 are all good Operating Systems. Each one improves on the previous version. There's more to the OS than the GUI, but that's what you see - if you don't like what you see, you won't use it.

The really good thing about Win10 Technical Preview is that you can tell MS if you like or dislike something. You have to join the Insider program - but you do have a say in the development. That dowsn't mean, of course, that your feedback will make it into the final releas, but every piece of feedback is being reviewed, catalogued and considered.

 

[Slartybart]

To quote the System Requirements page for Win10: "To access the Windows Store and to download and run apps, you need an Internet connection, a screen resolution of at least 1024 x 768, and a Microsoft account."

What constitutes a Microsoft Acct? Is it as simple as having a hotmail account?

Yes, your Hotmail account is also a Microsoft Account (MSA).

What this means is that you can log into other MS services using your Hotmail eMail address.

MS is still transitioning from LiveID to MSA - just think of MSA when you see live.com or LiveID

Try signing in to the Microsoft account using your Hotmail eMail address and password here:
https://login.live.com/

More information: Microsoft account - A single login to services and devices

 

[despuit]

As I said before for me it's about functionality. I understand how it is organised, I just don't see the point in all of it. Everything I need is on the desktop now, doesn't add anything for my personalised expirence to have a metro UI. With windows 7 I know the resources running and shutdown every thing but a command prompt to access any programs. What ever speed increases you see you can replicate them locally by learning how it works. Though I agree windows 10 is better over 8. Will stick to windows 7 though until the new hardware revolusition begins and they can't operate this type of code anymore on new hardware period as I don't need those additonal resources or functions. If it works without any lag, there is no need to change it.

 

[gregrocker]

I've never seen the Metro UI in Windows 10 and I've stuck with it now for almost 4 months.

OK I cheated and already have the new build. Interrrresting. Cortana needs to be more interative, not just open a Bing page for italian restaurants when I ask. Why isn't location already known?

 

[whs]

Cortana needs to be more interative, not just open a Google page for italian restaurants when I ask. Why isn't location already known?

:roflmao:

Just another toy that makes good demos - after weeks of preparations and tuning. Or do you really think you will ever get what they demo'd

 

[Slartybart]

As I said before for me it's about functionality. I understand how it is organised, I just don't see the point in all of it. Everything I need is on the desktop now, doesn't add anything for my personalised expirence to have a metro UI. With windows 7 I know the resources running and shutdown every thing but a command prompt to access any programs. What ever speed increases you see you can replicate them locally by learning how it works. Though I agree windows 10 is better over 8. Will stick to windows 7 though until the new hardware revolusition begins and they can't operate this type of code anymore on new hardware period as I don't need those additonal resources or functions. If it works without any lag, there is no need to change it.

That's what I meant when I said:
It's everyone's decision on what OS gets installed and operated on their machine.
Win7, Win8.1 and Win10 are all good Operating Systems.
Each one improves on the previous version.
There's more to the OS than the GUI, but that's what you see - if you don't like what you see, you won't use it

If you're happy with Win7, it is a good OS. Stick with what you know and like. I'm not trying to convince anyone to change ... but the free upgrade offer is something everyone should seriously consider.

That's all I was trying to say. The good thing is I think we found some common ground.

Bill
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[gregrocker]

Cortana needs to be more interative, not just open a Google page for italian restaurants when I ask. Why isn't location already known?

:roflmao:

Just another toy that makes good demos - after weeks of preparations and tuning. Or do you really think you will ever get what they demo'd

It's said to be able to learn, so I should have already know or have asked my location and figured that in.

I meant Bing search, which is fine if that's what it wants to give me back an answer but I don't want to look at Bing myself. I want a reply based on my present location or a different one if I give that. If it can't do something that simple then it needs more work, or it needs to say it has to get to know me better and ask me initialization questions. Until then it's annoying.

 

[whs]

It's said to be able to learn, so I should have already know or have asked my location and figured that in.

It's like the speech recognition thing. It probably needs 10 years of learning before it can spell 'mama'.

 

[AddRAM]

It would only take HAL 10 seconds