Workgroup/network sharing Mac OS X(I have searched)

[opsis]

I cannot get this to work for the life of me. I have searched this forum, and others.

-I have set the workgroup identically on my windows 7 machine and my 10.6 MBP.

-I CAN smb to my windows 7 machine successfully.

-Neither my windows 7 or mac os x recognize one another in their respective network "browsers"

-With iTunes open on both machines, it successfully recognizes the libraries.

I am not a networking genius, but I'm fairly literate if someone could help me out, please.

This could be a whole separate issue, but even when connected to my windows 7 machine through VPN, the machines don't show up on their respective network "browsers"

Thanks

 

[SquonkSC]

I cannot get this to work for the life of me. I have searched this forum, and others.

-I have set the workgroup identically on my windows 7 machine and my 10.6 MBP.

-I CAN smb to my windows 7 machine successfully.

-Neither my windows 7 or mac os x recognize one another in their respective network "browsers"

-With iTunes open on both machines, it successfully recognizes the libraries.

I am not a networking genius, but I'm fairly literate if someone could help me out, please.

This could be a whole separate issue, but even when connected to my windows 7 machine through VPN, the machines don't show up on their respective network "browsers"

Thanks

Hi Opsis, and welcome.

1. What do you mean by network browsers?

2. You gave the same network name on both machines?

3. Have you created at least one shared folder on the machines?

4. Do you have them connected through a router?

5. DCHP or fixed ip's?

6. Can the machines ping each other?

7. Can you post a command prompt after entering ipconfig /all,
and respective command on the mac?
(I don't know abything about mac's.)

Greetings

 

[opsis]

Hi Opsis, and welcome.

1. What do you mean by network browsers?
Just the networks "maps". So in the windows 7 my computer, under the network, the MBP doesn't show up.

2. You gave the same network name on both machines?
Both are connected to my router and both are under the same workgroup name

3. Have you created at least one shared folder on the machines?
I do have a shared folder

4. Do you have them connected through a router?
Yup

5. DCHP or fixed ip's?
DHCP but I know the IP's through router interface

6. Can the machines ping each other?
I successfully pinged the MBP

7. Can you post a command prompt after entering ipconfig /all,
and respective command on the mac?
(I don't know abything about mac's.)

Not sure what you're looking for exactly here...


Thanks for the reply!

 

[SquonkSC]

7. Can you post a command prompt after entering ipconfig /all,
and respective command on the mac?
(I don't know abything about mac's.)

Not sure what you're looking for exactly here...

On the W7 machine, go to start -> in the searchbox type cmd (press enter)

in the command prompt window type ipconfig /all

Is there a way to ping from the mac to the W7?

Another thing.
If you have firewalls on either machine, please disable them,
and see if the machines can see each other.

Report back pls.

Greetz

 

[opsis]

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Blake>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : i5
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : client.pavlovmedia.net

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : client.pavlovmedia.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-24-1D-D2-18-37
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::9ca4:321c:a8b5:8998%11(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.199(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, October 10, 2009 5:06:18 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, October 11, 2009 6:36:24 PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 234890269
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-12-4D-3D-73-00-24-1D-D2-18-37

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 216.146.35.35
216.146.36.36
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Tunnel adapter isatap.client.pavlovmedia.net:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : client.pavlovmedia.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 11:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:4137:9e50:1c6b:12ec:bb4b:a9b7(Pref
erred)
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::1c6b:12ec:bb4b:a9b7%13(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled



I was able to ping the windows machine from the Mac... Tried disabling the firewalls

Thanks

 

[opsis]

Okay, now for some reason, my w7 machine sees my MBP but my MBP still does not see my w7. Haha, unreal, I've messing with this all day.

 

[SquonkSC]

Okay, now for some reason, my w7 machine sees my MBP but my MBP still does not see my w7. Haha, unreal, I've messing with this all day.

That reason is the firewall I presume?

Can't help you on the mac, but maybe there's a firewall running there?

 

[opsis]

Actually I don't believe it was the firewall as I re-enabled it and I still could connect to the MBP. I cannot connect to my W7 though still other than through smb.

 

[SquonkSC]

Actually I don't believe it was the firewall as I re-enabled it and I still could connect to the MBP. I cannot connect to my W7 though still other than through smb.

I suspect it is something on the mac, but like I said, I know nothing of macs.

Look for something that allows or disallows network discovery.

Can't help you further I'm afraid.

good luck

 

[TauTau]

I'm in the same boat...
For clarification: On MacOS shared windows folders are visble by themselves if the mac has access to it. In the Finder there's a heading "Shares" where visible Windows machines are listed.

I have a 2003 server here, also with shares, it shows up fine (shares are "everybody/change")
I *had* XP with shares, the machine was listed on the MBP.

Now I have windows 7, with the same folder shared as before, and it's not listed on the MBP.
I can however, in the finder do a "connect with server" (which is the same as "map network drive") and connect to the Win7 share with smb://Userassword@win7-pc.

Seems something changed with the smb handling in Win7...

 

[SquonkSC]

I take it you are not using the new homegroup thing.

At the share tab of the folders you shared, do you have the user "everyone" set with full permissions?
That is the best way to set it.

You can always restrict access through the security tab.

Further in the advanced network settings of W7 there is a list of things you can set,
like network discovery, which bit level for security (default is 128bit),
enable file and printer sharing, share with or without password,

the last one is most important, it's "let windows control the homegroup" or "use useraccounts and passwords".
You need the set latter.

Maybe you should have a look there.

Rightclick on network icon (next to the clock) and select "open networkcenter".

Then on the left pane go to advanced settinngs for sharing..

Hope this helps.

Good luck

 

[TauTau]

I am a step further... I made the 2003 server an AD server, and joined the Win7 machine to the domain. On the Macbook I added the AD domain, which was successful (you have to use the IP of the AD server!). I now still see the server shares, can access them. I also see my own macbook (on the macbook), but funnily can't access it over that object (probably because the macbook didn't really join the AD domain, but only uses it's directory for search path etc). Though I still don't see the Win7 machine on the macbook...

Edit: What I forgot: on the Win7 machine I see the macbook now, and can access it

 

[jonnymd]

This is a known issue

I have been troubleshooting this issue with Apple for months. It is a known issue, as far as Apple is concerned. Using the Windows 7 RC I have modified every setting under the sun and spent hours on the phone with very capable technicians (they don't use offshore IT...it's amazing).

There is definitely something different with the SMB protocol since Windows 7. I have the sneaking suspicion it is related to homegroup, and potentially known, if not on purpose. I don't say that as the usual conspiracy theorists (I see value in both Mac and Windows) but as if Microsoft had to adjust its network to advance it. The tough thing is, no solution so far.

I'll keep you posted when I find a REAL solution (ie: I don't have the ability to create a 2003 Server, nor should we have to).

 

[TauTau]

I have my Win7 machine now visible on the mac. It seems that the broadcasting in the local network is different now. When you enable the Homegroup thing, it makes the machine visible again, seems that it is broadcasting again then...

 

[jonnymd]

TauTau,
What changed?
You say that it is different now and working. I have homegroup enabled. What did you do differently, besides "re-enabling" homegroup?

 

[TauTau]

hm, nothing else as far as I remember... M$ always did the broadcast thing to the xxx.xxx.xxx.255 adress, so every computer on the same network saw each other (up to a network-switch). Obviously they changed that behaviour with windows 7, and the homegroup thing brings it back for easier networking. At least that sound plausible, gotta gogle that up a bit...

btw, I didn't enable the homegroup on *my* computer, but on my wifes