Part 2: Microsoft silently preparing your PC for Win 10

[MilesAhead]

W10 is slower than W8.1 on my system. They are both in VMware Player and maybe that distorts reality.

why vmware? you could native boot w10 in a vhd[x] file container. It has the same effect as being in an isolated vm, but runs at native speed. I ain't never gonna install w8+ on a real partition again thanks to this feature.

Do you have a link to a step by step? The only time I tried a VHD I think it didn't work right because it was from an XP installed on D: that saw its system partition as H:. Now that everything is on C: again I'd like to give it a go.

(Sorry for hijack)

 

[whs]

W10 is slower than W8.1 on my system. They are both in VMware Player and maybe that distorts reality.

why vmware? you could native boot w10 in a vhd[x] file container. It has the same effect as being in an isolated vm, but runs at native speed. I ain't never gonna install w8+ on a real partition again thanks to this feature.

I guess that is an option. But I have many systems installed under VMware Player. So it is just the most convenient way for me. And I can operate the systems side by side without bringing my host system down. Plus I can carry it form one PC to the next without having to worry about drivers and such.

 

[eatup]

W10 is slower than W8.1 on my system. They are both in VMware Player and maybe that distorts reality.

why vmware? you could native boot w10 in a vhd[x] file container. It has the same effect as being in an isolated vm, but runs at native speed. I ain't never gonna install w8+ on a real partition again thanks to this feature.

Do you have a link to a step by step? The only time I tried a VHD I think it didn't work right because it was from an XP installed on D: that saw its system partition as H:. Now that everything is on C: again I'd like to give it a go.

(Sorry for hijack)

This article can explain it better than I can:

Native VHD Boot to Windows 10 Technical Preview Dual Boot with Windows 7 or Windows 8 | Next of Windows

Who needs VMWare when you could native boot/test drive the new OS with all the benefits of a sandboxed virtual machine without the performance hit...

 

[eatup]

W10 is slower than W8.1 on my system. They are both in VMware Player and maybe that distorts reality.

why vmware? you could native boot w10 in a vhd[x] file container. It has the same effect as being in an isolated vm, but runs at native speed. I ain't never gonna install w8+ on a real partition again thanks to this feature.

I guess that is an option. But I have many systems installed under VMware Player. So it is just the most convenient way for me. And I can operate the systems side by side without bringing my host system down. Plus I can carry it form one PC to the next without having to worry about drivers and such.

I have never known a system that didn't work with the drivers provided by Microsoft (other than the touchpad driver on laptops to disable tapping). And you can in fact carry that vhd file to another computer, so long as you originally installed it in a non-machine specific environment (ie. Imagex/VirtualPC/Hyper-V) and sysprep it. When you native boot that vhd image, it will go thru all the processes of setting itself up for the new machine as if it were a fresh new install (but with everything else you did to it including hotfixes, installed apps, etc.) There isn't a point to using the modern OSes running at "emulator" speeds. Everything should be native...

 

[whs]

I guess it is a matter of preference. Using the VHD is an option but I don't like to reboot my system. With VMware Player I can bring up any of my many virtual systems in less than 30 seconds from an external SSD. And the performance impact is really very minimal. Plus I can carry my external SSD to any of my PCs and I always have up-to-date systems.

A couple of my Linux systems I even run on my $99 Asus 11.6" laptop with only 2GB of RAM and an Atom processor. Booting is a bit slower because I have only USB2 ports, but once it's running, it is fine.

 

[eatup]

Well, to each his own. But VMWare can't make full use of all your hardware. Have that brand new 3D card? Running games in native boot can...

 

[whs]

In my 55 years of computer involvement I have never played a single game, LOL Like I have not been to the movies since 1964. For me that's all a waste of time.

 

[eatup]

What's the point of test driving W10 if you can't test out the new DirectX, which isn't just for games...? Anyways, one thng we agree on, I haven't watched a Hollywood movie (at the theater) since Avatar 6 years ago...

 

[whs]

I rest my case.

 

[groze]

In my 55 years of computer involvement I have never played a single game, LOL Like I have not been to the movies since 1964. For me that's all a waste of time.

You never played Microsoft solitaire (you can turn off the time option and scoring option if you want).?

 

[groze]

What's the point of test driving W10 if you can't test out the new DirectX, which isn't just for games...? Anyways, one thng we agree on, I haven't watched a Hollywood movie (at the theater) since Avatar 6 years ago...

I haven't been to the movies myself do to cost but I still rent dvd from family video. I hope watching videos doesn't move from the store to online. Family video does keep opening up new stores. I actually prefer watching dvds on my tv. They had vhs in the past.

 

[whs]

You never played Microsoft solitaire (you can turn off the time option and scoring option if you want).?

I would not know how to play it. The only real game I know is chess. And then some games we played as kids. But that was 70 years ago.

 

[groze]

You never played Microsoft solitaire (you can turn off the time option and scoring option if you want).?

I would not know how to play it. The only real game I know is chess. And then some games we played as kids. But that was 70 years ago.

Here is how if you want to try it someday.

Solitaire: how to play - Windows Help

That what I do, when I get really bored. I turn off the timed game and score options and choose draw one card option. Feel free to choose what options you would prefer.

If you can't access the games here is how.

To access games:

- go to start menu
- search for "Turn windows Features on or off"
- check "Games" and press ok
- your games should then be available in the start menu

 

[whs]

Found it. It's a dumb game. I don't have the patience for it. But thanks anyhow.

 

[Layback Bear]

I use the Windows 7 built in Chess Game and have yet to over heat my computer.

What I don't like about the Chess Game is when I move up a level Windows 7 cheats and starts beating me to often. It must be a Windows 7 Update causing my problem.

 

[groze]

I use the Windows 7 built in Chess Game and have yet to over heat my computer.

What I don't like about the Chess Game is when I move up a level Windows 7 cheats and starts beating me to often. It must be a Windows 7 Update causing my problem.

I never really could figure out chess.

 

[ThrashZone]

Found it. It's a dumb game. I don't have the patience for it. But thanks anyhow.

Yea I have the games features turned off on both my systems
Media center as well saves a little bit of resources
Gadgets too.
I know you love your gadgets though

 

[lehnerus2000]

Do you have a link to a step by step? The only time I tried a VHD I think it didn't work right because it was from an XP installed on D: that saw its system partition as H:. Now that everything is on C: again I'd like to give it a go.

Here is the procedure I used to create my W8 Preview VHDs:
Mister Goodcat | Installing Windows 8 Developer Preview as bootable VHD

I haven't tried it with the W10TPs.

 

[BrightBlessings]

I use the Windows 7 built in Chess Game and have yet to over heat my computer.

What I don't like about the Chess Game is when I move up a level Windows 7 cheats and starts beating me to often. It must be a Windows 7 Update causing my problem.

Yep, when that happens it's like you are playing against all of these players at the same time.
Garry Kasparov
Anatoly Karpov
Emanuel Lasker
Wilhelm Steinitz
Jose Capablanca
Bobby Fischer
Alexander Alekhine
Mikhail Botvinnik
Paul Morphy
Deep Blue

 

[Ranger4]

I use the Windows 7 built in Chess Game and have yet to over heat my computer.

What I don't like about the Chess Game is when I move up a level Windows 7 cheats and starts beating me to often. It must be a Windows 7 Update causing my problem.

:roflmao: Yes, it's definitely an update that's responsible.