No, Windows 7 isn't slower than Vista, even at booting

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The manufacturer of a Windows maintenance toolkit featured on our Fileforum told CNET's Ina Fried last week that it believes boot times for Windows 7 are typically slower than boot times for Windows Vista. Iolo Technologies told Fried that it gauged the amount of time required for the CPU to reach a "true idle state."
As many veteran Windows users already know, the operating system doesn't actually boot to an "idle state" -- it's not DOS. Since that time, Iolo has been characterizing the time it stops its stopwatch as the time that the CPU is "fully usable," which seems rather nebulous.
The discussion over whether this means Win7 is slower was declared moot today by TG Daily's Andrew Thomas, who wrote, "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury: I put it to you that there are no occasions when the boot time of a PC is important in any way whatsoever."
Unfortunately, there is one situation where the boot time of a PC is important: It affects the public's perception of whether the PC is actually faster, and thus better. And as we have seen with Vista, an operating system that was by all scientific measures much more secure than Windows XP, the perception that it was less secure -- by virtue of its highly sensitive behavior -- was as bad, if not worse, from the public vantage point as being insecure to begin with.
The public at large typically perceives the boot sequence of a computer as the period of time between startup and the first moment they're asked to log in. Betanews tested that interval this afternoon using an external stopwatch, and our triple-boot test system: an Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600-based computer using a Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 motherboard, an Nvidia 8600 GTS-series video card, 3 GB of DDR2 DRAM, and a 640 GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 hard drive. Both Vista and Win7 partitions are located on this same drive.
The interval we tested is between the pressing of Enter at the multi-boot selection screen, and the moment the login screen appears. While the tools I used for timing were an ordinary digital stopwatch and my eyeballs, I will gladly let everyone know that I use these same tools to test qualifications at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, and my measurements vary from those at the Timing & Scoring booth usually by about 0.05 seconds.
In tests of what I'll call the "perceived boot interval" on the same machine, Windows 7 posted a five-boot average time of 24.214 seconds. Windows Vista, booting from the exact same machine and the exact same disk (just a different partition) posted an average of 36.262 seconds -- just about 50% slower. Exactly how much time is required for a Windows-based system to start idling down and doing relatively nothing -- the "fully usable" state that Iolo is looking for -- typically varies wildly depending on what drivers are installed, and what startup applications may be running. On a well-utilized XP-based system (and we have a truckload of those), that time may officially be never.
However, it's worth noting that in a separate test conducted by ChannelWeb's Samara Lynn this afternoon, she discovered that boot times for a system running Windows 7 with Iolo's System Mechanic software installed were typically slower than for the same system with System Mechanic not installed. This may be because System Mechanic was authored with Vista in mind -- which could explain a lot of things about Iolo's own evaluation.

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Wow, this sheds a whole new light on the subject!
 

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Some people will try so hard to put 7 down and I think some of those people were some how invested in vista and therefore are trying to justify a reason to hang on to that even though it was a poor decision.
 

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Great article QuackPot. Thanks for sharing.
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Some people will try so hard to put 7 down and I think some of those people were some how invested in vista and therefore are trying to justify a reason to hang on to that even though it was a poor decision.

Exactly.
 

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mine boots in 16-17 secs from the bios going of to the desktop.
 

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Please would somebody explain to me why this is important. As long as your computer starts up why is it important whether it does it in 20 seconds or 55 seconds.

To the average Joe computer user it doesn't. To them it is magic, and that is all that matters.

Please lets hope this is the last of this topic we will see.
 

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Hi there
I don't wish to disparage keeness and the willingness of people to do research

but isn't this whole topic a LOAD OF

Cheers
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I agree that boot time is not the nec plus ultra. I do, however, question those whole measurements unless I know whether the 2 systems are identical in the number and type of programs that are on them. E.g. a "virgin" Win7 with a 10GB footprint will boot faster than a loaded Vista with a 60GB footprint - or vice versa. Stating only the Hardware environment parameters is no proof of apples to apples.
 

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Lee boot times are important as people dont like to wait. I tried telling my dad to switch of his pc when hes not using it and he said no as it takes so long to boot (his reboot time is about 50 seconds). So he switches it on in the morning and then switches it off at night, which is just a complete waist of energy.

There are loads of reasons to wanting faster boot times like you are a student with a laptop and have to switch of your pc due to power requirements and then have to wait in class while it boots up. You have work to do etc etc etc
 
Hi there
I don't wish to disparage keeness and the willingness of people to do research

but isn't this whole topic a LOAD OF

Cheers
jimbo

Just like the topics that state Vista as being faster?
 

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The rare time I wanted to re-boot it seemed quite a bit faster.

And really it doesn't matter under 7. Why? Edit--well reading a post above, for some people it might.

Because the OS has proven so reliable and stable I really haven't had the need but once or twice.

Even though XP was pretty darned good I still rebooted maybe an average once ot twice a week. I can see with 7 it might be that many times in a month.
 

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Lee boot times are important as people dont like to wait. I tried telling my dad to switch of his pc when hes not using it and he said no as it takes so long to boot (his reboot time is about 50 seconds). So he switches it on in the morning and then switches it off at night, which is just a complete waist of energy.

There are loads of reasons to wanting faster boot times like you are a student with a laptop and have to switch of your pc due to power requirements and then have to wait in class while it boots up. You have work to do etc etc etc


Well, there is a cure to it. It's called SSD. You might even beat 10 seconds.
 

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But that's a cure that might be worse than the disease. High end SSD's cost upwards of $400, but I could get a high end server hard drive for less than half that.
 

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Well, there is a cure to it. It's called SSD. You might even beat 10 seconds.

Not sure about that. I've got an Intel X25-M SSD running my Windows 7 64-bit OS and I think my boot times after the post are about 20 seconds to logon.

But that's a cure that might be worse than the disease. High end SSD's cost upwards of $400, but I could get a high end server hard drive for less than half that.

The 80GB Intel X25-M Gen 2 SSD drive can be found for $249 at various websites...including mwave.com. Not only did it speed up my boot times, but apps load almost instantly and video game loading has improved tremendously. Seriously, the game performance increase is the biggest noticeable change since I switched to an SSD.

I do agree though that the use of SSD is really too expensive to justify except for the people who want sheer performance or are tech nerds.
 

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Cheers whs il take this one - SSD :D Just let me know when youve posted it.

But seriously they are far to expensive just now, i and many others will have to wait.
 
Cheers whs il take this one - SSD :D Just let me know when youve posted it.

But seriously they are far to expensive just now, i and many others will have to wait.

Stay away from the Generation 1 versions of the Intel drives. You can spot them by the G1 at the end of the model number. The reason that you want a G2 is that only the G2 models support the TRIM feature.
 

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Yeah i havent really looked into it as they are way to expensive just now. All i know is i want a SLC one and now that it has to be a G2 as well. Il wait till they are cheaper and any problems with them have been found and solved.

So it will be next year il get one.
 
Whilst I agree that boot times are relatively unimportant in real terms, as they are so often quoted by the technology press they are an important part of the perception of an operating system.

I actually find that the perceived speed of an OS start is more important than the actual figures.

I find that on Windows 7 I can be actually doing productive work quicker than I can on a Vista system. The system may still be performing start-up tasks but it does not stop me from opening an application therefore it is perceptibly quicker
 

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