Microsoft sets stage for massive Windows 10 upgrade strategy

[groze]

I always wondered IF Microsoft does get data, couldn't someone else get into & deliver viruses back to the computers or even get the data it records? As I said before, I think some of the reports of what data Microsoft gets is a little far fetched but that is just my opinion.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

I always wondered IF Microsoft does get data, couldn't someone else get into & deliver viruses back to the computers or even get the data it records? As I said before, I think some of the reports of what data Microsoft gets is a little far fetched but that is just my opinion.

Read the EULA for Win 10. It's worse than a horror story.

 

[Callender]

Microsoft Updates “Get Windows 10” Prompts, No Longer Offers Reject Option.

The “Get Windows 10” app that’s being used by Microsoft to push the new operating system to computers running Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 has received another makeover, this time becoming even more aggressive than before.

Basically, if you’re running an older version of Windows, and you haven’t yet disabled the Get Windows 10 app, the prompt linked to the upgrade is now recommending you to install the new OS and even gives you two different options. But unfortunately, the “no” option is not there anymore.

Full story here:

Microsoft Updates ?Get Windows 10? Prompts, No Longer Offers Reject Option

 

[groze]

I always wondered IF Microsoft does get data, couldn't someone else get into & deliver viruses back to the computers or even get the data it records? As I said before, I think some of the reports of what data Microsoft gets is a little far fetched but that is just my opinion.

Read the EULA for Win 10. It's worse than a horror story.

Yes, I have.

I am not as concerned as I was before but I am still cautious.

Right on my windows 10 partition.
I have a local account.
I have most privacy settings disabled.
I have location on, that because of apps.
I have Cortana turned off. (She never worked for me)
I use Firefox browser.

I do use Microsoft outlook web based email but I also access this using Thunderbird. Microsoft always has access to my emails even with windows 7, just like any other internet service provider does. I stopped using Gmail & closed Gmail because their filters was not doing the job and got some really bad stuff. I still use Google Chrome browser occasionally.

I think the tracking info was releated to Cortana, one drive folder, favorites you save in edge/internet explorer and passwords you save in edge/internet explorer and app purchases.

One thing I don't like is Microsoft shouldn't remove legit software that you have installed. Spybot S&D newer version now keeps a copy of itself, so you can reinstall without having to download it again.

 

[Borg 386]

Microsoft Updates “Get Windows 10” Prompts, No Longer Offers Reject Option..

Similar article here...the title says it all.

Once a small box begging for a reservation in the corner of the screen, the “Get Windows 10” pop-up prompt has morphed to consume the majority of the display, and worse, it only presents users with two clear actionable buttons: Upgrade now, and Start download, upgrade later. There’s no immediate “No thanks” option whatsoever.

'Get Windows 10' prompt adopts malware-like tactics to lure you into upgrading | PCWorld

 

[groze]

Microsoft Updates “Get Windows 10” Prompts, No Longer Offers Reject Option.

The “Get Windows 10” app that’s being used by Microsoft to push the new operating system to computers running Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 has received another makeover, this time becoming even more aggressive than before.

Basically, if you’re running an older version of Windows, and you haven’t yet disabled the Get Windows 10 app, the prompt linked to the upgrade is now recommending you to install the new OS and even gives you two different options. But unfortunately, the “no” option is not there anymore.

Full story here:

Microsoft Updates ?Get Windows 10? Prompts, No Longer Offers Reject Option

:huh: What about just hitting the "X" button? This comment is directed toward the article not Callender.

 

[Borg 386]

:huh: What about just hitting the "X" button? This comment is directed toward the article not Callender.

Apparently it's there, probably small & inconspicuous. Probably like when the decline button is greyed out on unwanted PUP's to make it look like they are inactive.....or you have a little tiny "x" somewhere on a program offering you something extra.

To be fair, you can still simply close the window using the X in the upper-right corner, and if you click through the itty-bitty inconspicuous chevron on the right-edge of the window there may be a “Nope” prompt somewhere further down the line. (I closed the prompt before exploring the auxiliary pages.) But having the only two large, clearly actionable options on a pop-up page both lead to a Windows 10 download feels inherently icky—like Microsoft’s trying to trick less-savvy computer users into downloading the operating system with tactics often used by spammers and malicious websites.

The most annoying behavior has yet to come for people who have chosen to stay pat with Windows 7 or 8.1, however.

 

[groze]

:huh: What about just hitting the "X" button? This comment is directed toward the article not Callender.

Apparently it's there, probably small & inconspicuous. Probably like when the decline button is greyed out on unwanted PUP's to make it look like they are inactive.....or you have a little tiny "x" somewhere on a program offering you something extra.

To be fair, you can still simply close the window using the X in the upper-right corner, and if you click through the itty-bitty inconspicuous chevron on the right-edge of the window there may be a “Nope” prompt somewhere further down the line. (I closed the prompt before exploring the auxiliary pages.) But having the only two large, clearly actionable options on a pop-up page both lead to a Windows 10 download feels inherently icky—like Microsoft’s trying to trick less-savvy computer users into downloading the operating system with tactics often used by spammers and malicious websites.

I saw that "X" in the article you posted. The softpedia article didn't say anything about the "X". We posted almost at the same time.

 

[OvenMaster]

Uncle Sam doesn't want encryption for a reason along with other countries.


1. Terrorist would use encryption and it would make it impossible to catch them in a timely fashion.
Finding this information after the shootings and or bombings from the perpetrators computers really doesn't help.

2. Smugglers of guns, drugs, chemicals, people, and many other things would also use encryption to hide their activities.

3. Those with ill-gotten money from illegal activates would also use encryption to hide the movement of their money. One way of catching the bad guys is following the money.

Like most things in life, it's like a playing card; their is two sides.

When companies monitor my internet use then I get unwanted email, phone calls and junk snail mail.
When the government monitor my internet use I get no such things.
They just leave me alone.

For those that don't want anybody or anything to monitor their use of the internet, your plum slick out of luck as long as you use the internet.
At this point and time in the computer world it's not a good or bad thing. It's just a fact that you and I will be watched on the internet.
I'm thinking that 99.9% of us don't really need encryption. I can't think of anything in my personal life I ever needed to encrypt.
I not a criminal and I'm not a terrorist and I still believe in one woman at a time so I have no need to encrypt.

Uncle Sam doesn't want encryption for a reason along with other countries.


1. Terrorist would use encryption and it would make it impossible to catch them in a timely fashion.
Finding this information after the shootings and or bombings from the perpetrators computers really doesn't help.

2. Smugglers of guns, drugs, chemicals, people, and many other things would also use encryption to hide their activities.

3. Those with ill-gotten money from illegal activates would also use encryption to hide the movement of their money. One way of catching the bad guys is following the money.

Like most things in life, it's like a playing card; their is two sides.

When companies monitor my internet use then I get unwanted email, phone calls and junk snail mail.
When the government monitor my internet use I get no such things.
They just leave me alone.

For those that don't want anybody or anything to monitor their use of the internet, your plum slick out of luck as long as you use the internet.
At this point and time in the computer world it's not a good or bad thing. It's just a fact that you and I will be watched on the internet.
I'm thinking that 99.9% of us don't really need encryption. I can't think of anything in my personal life I ever needed to encrypt.
I not a criminal and I'm not a terrorist and I still believe in one woman at a time so I have no need to encrypt.

I would not want my personal finances to be viewed by every Tom, Dick, and Hacker. It would be a good way for my money to go bye-bye faster than it already does. Encryption and privacy does have its place, no matter how innocent one may be.

For me, giving up my privacy is simply not a credible option. No one... Micro$oft, my family, hackers, criminals, nor any level of government has any need to know or see what I do with my computer. Giving up privacy = giving up basic freedom of thought. I'm not a criminal nor a terrorist either. But I'll be damned if I don't try my very best to keep as much of my private data private with all means at my command.

I saw a great response on another forum to those who think they have nothing to hide: by all means, these people should feel free to publicly post their login credentials and passwords to their bank, email, medical, ISP login, utility, etc. accounts and see what happens. If they don't then they have something to hide.

Everyone has data that needs to stay private. The government says that we have to take cybersecurity seriously. Well, it starts at home and at the office with individuals taking as many precautions as possible, especially encryption.

Back to our regularly scheduled thread.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

Uncle Sam doesn't want encryption for a reason along with other countries.


1. Terrorist would use encryption and it would make it impossible to catch them in a timely fashion.
Finding this information after the shootings and or bombings from the perpetrators computers really doesn't help.

2. Smugglers of guns, drugs, chemicals, people, and many other things would also use encryption to hide their activities.

3. Those with ill-gotten money from illegal activates would also use encryption to hide the movement of their money. One way of catching the bad guys is following the money.

Like most things in life, it's like a playing card; their is two sides.

When companies monitor my internet use then I get unwanted email, phone calls and junk snail mail.
When the government monitor my internet use I get no such things.
They just leave me alone.

For those that don't want anybody or anything to monitor their use of the internet, your plum slick out of luck as long as you use the internet.
At this point and time in the computer world it's not a good or bad thing. It's just a fact that you and I will be watched on the internet.
I'm thinking that 99.9% of us don't really need encryption. I can't think of anything in my personal life I ever needed to encrypt.
I not a criminal and I'm not a terrorist and I still believe in one woman at a time so I have no need to encrypt.

Uncle Sam doesn't want encryption for a reason along with other countries.


1. Terrorist would use encryption and it would make it impossible to catch them in a timely fashion.
Finding this information after the shootings and or bombings from the perpetrators computers really doesn't help.

2. Smugglers of guns, drugs, chemicals, people, and many other things would also use encryption to hide their activities.

3. Those with ill-gotten money from illegal activates would also use encryption to hide the movement of their money. One way of catching the bad guys is following the money.

Like most things in life, it's like a playing card; their is two sides.

When companies monitor my internet use then I get unwanted email, phone calls and junk snail mail.
When the government monitor my internet use I get no such things.
They just leave me alone.

For those that don't want anybody or anything to monitor their use of the internet, your plum slick out of luck as long as you use the internet.
At this point and time in the computer world it's not a good or bad thing. It's just a fact that you and I will be watched on the internet.
I'm thinking that 99.9% of us don't really need encryption. I can't think of anything in my personal life I ever needed to encrypt.
I not a criminal and I'm not a terrorist and I still believe in one woman at a time so I have no need to encrypt.

I would not want my personal finances to be viewed by every Tom, Dick, and Hacker. It would be a good way for my money to go bye-bye faster than it already does. Encryption and privacy does have its place, no matter how innocent one may be.

For me, giving up my privacy is simply not a credible option. No one... Micro$oft, my family, hackers, criminals, nor any level of government has any need to know or see what I do with my computer. Giving up privacy = giving up basic freedom of thought. I'm not a criminal nor a terrorist either. But I'll be damned if I don't try my very best to keep as much of my private data private with all means at my command.

I saw a great response on another forum to those who think they have nothing to hide: by all means, these people should feel free to publicly post their login credentials and passwords to their bank, email, medical, ISP login, utility, etc. accounts and see what happens. If they don't then they have something to hide.

Everyone has data that needs to stay private. The government says that we have to take cybersecurity seriously. Well, it starts at home and at the office with individuals taking as many precautions as possible, especially encryption.

Back to our regularly scheduled thread.

Thank you very much!

 

[lehnerus2000]

1. Terrorist would use encryption and it would make it impossible to catch them in a timely fashion.
Finding this information after the shootings and or bombings from the perpetrators computers really doesn't help.

Any "proper" criminal and/or terrorist already knows (and knew before Snowden) that standard communications are continuously monitored.

I've heard reports that suggest those responsible for the Paris Attacks actually met face-to-face to discuss the details.

I guess the Government will have to declare Martial Law (including a 24 hour curfew) to prevent people from leaving their homes, thus eliminating terrorism once-and-for-all.

Everyone has data that needs to stay private. The government says that we have to take cybersecurity seriously. Well, it starts at home and at the office with individuals taking as many precautions as possible, especially encryption.

Step one is to make it as difficult as possible for the Government to monitor/steal your information.
This should mean that only determined and competent cyber-criminals can get access.

 

[Layback Bear]

Remember I think simple.
When slave traders, gun runners and drug czars ect. use the internet to communicate, governments around the would need to have the ability to monitor.
Governments really don't care if someone sends a email to their girlfriend about the two wife's they have.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

...Governments really don't care if someone sends a email to their girlfriend about the two wife's they have.

Unless they blackmail you with it. What worries me more are the governments and corporations that collect my data (aka spy on me) not being secure enough to keep that data out of the hands of malicious hackers.

 

[Ranger4]

...Governments really don't care if someone sends a email to their girlfriend about the two wife's they have.

Unless they blackmail you with it. What worries me more are the governments and corporations that collect my data (aka spy on me) not being secure enough to keep that data out of the hands of malicious hackers.

You also have to worry about who these corporations might sell your private information to. Money overrides all scruples & decency.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

...Governments really don't care if someone sends a email to their girlfriend about the two wife's they have.

Unless they blackmail you with it. What worries me more are the governments and corporations that collect my data (aka spy on me) not being secure enough to keep that data out of the hands of malicious hackers.

You also have to worry about who these corporations might sell your private information to. Money overrides all scruples & decency.

Pretty much.

 

[Iforgot]

What gets me about all this privacy thing is..
Corporate/enterprise editions are able to switch privacy on or off, or any state in between via deployment image packages.

But full retail or OEM are not.
Which leads me to believe, It's not a government/security issue, It's just data mining, to be sold off for marketing purposes. ie google

Allan

 

[gemhunter]

...Governments really don't care if someone sends a email to their girlfriend about the two wife's they have.

Unless they blackmail you with it. What worries me more are the governments and corporations that collect my data (aka spy on me) not being secure enough to keep that data out of the hands of malicious hackers.

THIS is the best reason to avoid back-doored encryption. The three-letter agencies, other gov agencies, and their corporate lackeys aren't capable of protecting a bag of donuts, let alone everyone's encryption keys.

Google "opm hack details" for relevant info. This hack is THE worst thing they could have lost.

 

[Borg 386]

....

 

[ThrashZone]

Classic

 

[Diosoth]

After I had issues with updates nearly rendering my PC inoperable, I disabled both automatic install or even automatic downloading of updates.

Crap like this makes me glad I did just that. It means I never ended up with this junk in the first place. If MS somehow find a way to force a download past those settings I will shut Windows Update off totally.