Worth upgrading from Win 7/64 Pro to Windows 10?

[Vista32toWin7]

I purchased my laptop in 2009, which came with Vista 32 bit OS.

I had lots of issues with the Vista OS, so I upgraded to Win 7/64 Pro OS in October of 2014.

I haven't had any major issues with the Win 7/64 Pro OS as of date and it has been fairly consistent. So I'm kind of reluctant to just jump on the free MS Win 10 upgrade.

I haven't used Win 10 before, so I have no clue what advantages Win 10 has over Win 7/64 Pro, if any, to make it worth upgrading to Win 10?

Any thoughts or input on this subject appreciated, thanks.

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Also my CPU is running at 62 degrees celcius or 143.6 degrees Fahrenheit.

My Motherboard is currently running at 143-150 degrees Fahrenheit.

Are these temps normal?

Thanks again.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Millions of words have been written on the net about whether or not to upgrade to 10.

There's no over-riding reason to do it if you are happy with 7. 10 does have some new doodads that you may or may not appreciate. Sooner or later, you'll probably be forced into it unless you ditch Windows entirely, but Win 7 will be supported until Jan 2020, so many people are sitting tight.

There are some complaints about 10's intrusiveness, but many are indifferent to that.

Windows 7 is still by far the most commonly used operating system at about 55%. Windows 10 is under 10%.

Many can't resist it because it's currently free.

Those temps are quite high if the PC is idling, but low to OK if the PC if under a severe load. You didn't say.

Ambient temp has a near 1:1 effect on reported internal temps, so that's important as well. A machine that idles at 29 when ambient is 22 might idle at 34 if ambient is 28.

And laptops are nearly always hotter than desktops.

Over 80 for an extended period is shaky, regardless of circumstances.

I'd have no qualms about running in the 70s at all, but a desktop would rarely get that hot. Laptops, more frequently.

 

[whs]

There are no advantages in Win10. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

 

[Layback Bear]

Well I also don't know why anybody would want W-10 but if your curious and want to try W-10 I suggest putting in on a separate hard drive or ssd so you don't mess up Windows 7.

Then you can look under the hood and kick the tires on W-10 and give it a test drive.

 

[whs]

Exactly - I put mine into a virtual partition.

http://www.sevenforums.com/virtualization/355103-virtual-os-tutorial-install-setup-operate.html

 

[Vista32toWin7]

Millions of words have been written on the net about whether or not to upgrade to 10.

There's no over-riding reason to do it if you are happy with 7. 10 does have some new doodads that you may or may not appreciate. Sooner or later, you'll probably be forced into it unless you ditch Windows entirely, but Win 7 will be supported until Jan 2020, so many people are sitting tight.

There are some complaints about 10's intrusiveness, but many are indifferent to that.

Windows 7 is still by far the most commonly used operating system at about 55%. Windows 10 is under 10%.

Many can't resist it because it's currently free.

Those temps are quite high if the PC is idling, but low to OK if the PC if under a severe load. You didn't say.

Ambient temp has a near 1:1 effect on reported internal temps, so that's important as well. A machine that idles at 29 when ambient is 22 might idle at 34 if ambient is 28.

And laptops are nearly always hotter than desktops.

Over 80 for an extended period is shaky, regardless of circumstances.

I'd have no qualms about running in the 70s at all, but a desktop would rarely get that hot. Laptops, more frequently.

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The last Windows 7 update I got was in July 2015.

The fact that the Win 10 upgrade is free, is the draw.

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I currently have 3 Internet windows open, plus listening to iTunes radio, and 2 MS Works word processor pages open. Not sure this would be considered a severe load, but rather normal, at least for me it is. I don't do gaming or photo stuff. I do have it on for several hours at a time.

My apartment is at 74 degrees Fahrenheit, if that makes any difference?

My Wise Care 365 System Monitor says my Processor/CPU is at 145-155 degrees Fahrenheit.

My SSHD drive temp is 118 degrees Fahrenheit.

When you say over 80 I presume you are referring to Celcius? If so, then I also presume according to your answer, that my max CPU temp of 155 degrees Fahrenheit is within the 70's degree Celsius temps you say is within reason.

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On another note: Underneath my laptop is a vent located near the SSHD that is blocked. Not sure why it is, but can you think of any reason why I couldn't/shouldn't remove the blockage to help vent & reduce the heat buildup in that area?

I was also thinking of drilling some small holes in the bottom plastic laptop housing heat buildup areas. (With the cover off of course.) Any reason why I couldn't/shouldn't do this to alleviate the heat buildup?

Thanks again.

 

[Vista32toWin7]

There are no advantages in Win10. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

I was going to say that in my OP: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

I'll take your word for it on Win 10.

Thanks.

 

[Vista32toWin7]

Well I also don't know why anybody would want W-10 but if your curious and want to try W-10 I suggest putting in on a separate hard drive or ssd so you don't mess up Windows 7.

Then you can look under the hood and kick the tires on W-10 and give it a test drive.

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Thanks for the info. My neighbor just bought a used laptop with a Win 10 upgrade, I'll test drive his Win 10 when he gets it running right?

 

[ignatzatsonic]

I currently have 3 Internet windows open, plus listening to iTunes radio, and 2 MS Works word processor pages open. Not sure this would be considered a severe load, but rather normal, at least for me it is. I don't do gaming or photo stuff. I do have it on for several hours at a time.

My apartment is at 74 degrees Fahrenheit, if that makes any difference?

My Wise Care 365 System Monitor says my Processor/CPU is at 145-155 degrees Fahrenheit.

My SSHD drive temp is 118 degrees Fahrenheit.

When you say over 80 I presume you are referring to Celcius? If so, then I also presume according to your answer, that my max CPU temp of 155 degrees Fahrenheit is within the 70's degree Celsius temps you say is within reason.

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On another note: Underneath my laptop is a vent located near the SSHD that is blocked. Not sure why it is, but can you think of any reason why I couldn't/shouldn't remove the blockage to help vent & reduce the heat buildup in that area?

I was also thinking of drilling some small holes in the bottom plastic laptop housing heat buildup areas. (With the cover off of course.) Any reason why I couldn't/shouldn't do this to alleviate the heat buildup?

Thanks again.

Of course, you should clean out any clogged vent--as a matter of habit. Keep your eyes on it.

I wouldn't drill anything personally.

There are cooling pads if you think you need one.

Most people use Celsius when referring to PC temps. That's the convention.

74 F is about 23 C.

SSD at 118 F is about 48 C; that would be high in a desktop but may be OK in a laptop.

CPU of say 150 is 66 C. That's OK.

But you need to determine what's "normal" for you on your laptop at your standard room temp at your typical load.

Your Wise utility may tell you something about CPU load. If not, you can get it directly from Windows. You may be under 10 percent most of the time--relatively low load.

For all I know, your temps 2 weeks ago were much lower and are high only recently. That would point to a problem of some type.

But we don't know what your "normal" is because apparently you've been keeping track only recently and can't say what temps were last March or August.

Blow out the vents.

Confirm your fans are spinning.

Develop an idea of "normal" and check once a month or so. Look for any aberrations.

You can research the absolute max temp that CPU should withstand. It's likely 90 or higher.

 

[Layback Bear]

From post #6

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The last Windows 7 update I got was in July 2015.

The fact that the Win 10 upgrade is free, is the draw.

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Dog do-do is free but I don't go look for some to take home.

 

[Vista32toWin7]

Dog do-do is free but I don't go look for some to take home.

R. I take it you don't like Win 10.

 

[Vista32toWin7]

Exactly - I put mine into a virtual partition.

http://www.sevenforums.com/virtualization/355103-virtual-os-tutorial-install-setup-operate.html

R. Watched the 3 videos, interesting stuff, looks like you know what your doing. Thanks.

I'll wait an try out my neighbors Win 10 soon, a bit easier for me.

 

[Vista32toWin7]

Of course, you should clean out any clogged vent--

R. Vents are cleaned with canned air and spinning freely.

I wouldn't drill anything personally.

R. Does sound a bit archaic for a computer, but its just a plastic cover.

But you need to determine what's "normal" for you on your laptop at your standard room temp at your typical load.
For all I know, your temps 2 weeks ago were much lower and are high only recently. That would point to a problem of some type.

R. The temps I listed have been fairly consistent in that range since I installed Win 7.

But we don't know what your "normal" is because apparently you've been keeping track only recently and can't say what temps were last March or August.

R. The temps I listed have been consistent.

Thanks again, appreciate your input.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Yep if you want to try 10 go for it
Just make a good system image first so you can reliably get back to where you started before the upgrade
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/73828-imaging-free-macrium.html

But yes v-m is a pretty safe way too.
Personally I hate to see anything go over 60c
Realtemp is pretty good to monitor temps.
Download Real Temp 3.70 | techPowerUp

I do have to say no updates since July is pretty whacky :/
The first windows 10 prep update was 1 day before April fools day 2015

 

[Vista32toWin7]

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Thoughts on this add, Windows 10?
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[ThrashZone]

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[Vista32toWin7]

I do have MSE on my Windows 7 SP1 laptop, so no to sure what difference (security wise) it would be on Windows 10?