Solved Win7 x64 OS Home Premium Problem

[Whazzupdoc]

Hi...and thanks! Here's the snippet. This is an eBay item.

 

[Layback Bear]

Well I have been doing some looking.

I found these.

What is the difference between win pro 7 DSP OEI DVD and the normal - Microsoft Community

https://social.microsoft.com/Forums...35/oem-and-dsp-diffrences?forum=genuinewindow

They seem to be legal but very old. Make sure they have SP-1 included.

I personally would never buy a operating system off of eBay.
Beware of cheep prices.

 

[Whazzupdoc]

Bear, thanks! I see on the ad that SP-1 is included...and of course Win7 is not a new OS and since MS has done away with issuing new Win7 OEM OS what's left? But thanks,...I am being very cautious on this as I don't trust eBay sellers either.

Rather than being led by the nose with these licensing issues, what is your opinion about setting up Ubuntu 14 instead?...or in some manner on our desktops? Can we partition a 2TB new HD without going out of the frying pan into the fire? Or would it be better to have a 2nd HD so I can choose between which OS I want to use? I have no experience with Ubuntu but started to do some reading yesterday afternoon before we had a power outage that lasted til 9:30pm.

Look forward to your reply!

 

[Layback Bear]

Personally never care for Ubuntu or any Linux operating system.
I have tried several and will now and again try some more to see if I find one I like.

I install operating system on their own drive and see if I like them.
I have tried VM with Linux. Didn't care for that much either. VM worked but I just haven't found a Linux I care for.

It's just a trial and like or dislike personal thing.
When I get in the mood again I will give Linux another go.
I haven't found anything better than Windows 7.

Just for backup, I have a new Windows 7/64 Pro in my desk. It's never been used and I don't worry about it being a legal Windows 7 because I'm positive it is because of where I bought it.
Price is a clue.
Windows 7/64 Pro sells for $140.00. Wholesale is $125.00. When you see very cheap prices (beware).

Note:
Their are several members that also use Linux and Windows 7 and are happy doing so.

Here are some very nice tutorials that can help you.


By Golden
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/257048-dual-boot-windows-7-linux.html

By whs
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/278957-vmware-player-install-setup-zorin-2.html

By Kari
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...ndows-7-virtual-machine-using-virtualbox.html

Take your time going through them.

 

[legacy7955]

Personally never care for Ubuntu or any Linux operating system.
I have tried several and will now and again try some more to see if I find one I like.

I install operating system on their own drive and see if I like them.
I have tried VM with Linux. Didn't care for that much either. VM worked but I just haven't found a Linux I care for..
When I get in the mood again I will give Linux another go.
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@Layback Bear:

I look forward to your possible trials of a Linux OS, I am looking to go that way once Windows 7 is
no longer supported by MS....

I have heard that Linux Mint and Linus Puppy are very good versions that users claim are very
similar to what we know and like about Windows 7.

I would love to see a review by you of these two OS versions.

 

[Layback Bear]

Don't hold your breath because I have no idea when such a thing will happen.

 

[legacy7955]

Don't hold your breath because I have no idea when such a thing will happen.

Thanks for the response, I can always hope.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
The only place I would buy from is if was sold and shipped by Amazon or Newegg.com
Forget all the garage venders.
And definitely do not accept a download and a emailed activation key that is a red flag for stolen or salvaged of an old oem machine...

 

[ignatzatsonic]

I have heard that Linux Mint and Linus Puppy are very good versions that users claim are very
similar to what we know and like about Windows 7.

Linux Mint has a high-volume forum that will answer most of your questions. Find it with Google.

Zorin is another "Windows-like" Linux distribution that is often recommended for newcomers to Linux.

You can rather easily get a Linux Mint desktop to highly resemble Windows, but that's only part of the battle.

There's still a considerable learning curve to understand the Linux file structure and how to do the things you now do on Windows---locate suitable apps, install apps, upgrade apps, maintain and upgrade the OS as needed, backup the OS, backup data, trouble-shoot unexpected problems, etc, etc.

It's not as easily done as some would have you believe. The temptation is to backslide and go back to Windows. You aren't likely to have a reasonable grasp of Linux unless you spend several hundred hours on it--and during that time your productivity will be low and your frustration level will be higher than you would like.

There's no substitute for trying it--I would put Linux on a totally different hard drive, rather than on a separate partition of a Windows drive.

 

[Layback Bear]

ignatzatsonic Post #29

Very well stated.

 

[Whazzupdoc]

Thank you. You know the old saying "the hurrieder I go...the behinder I get"? Well I spent most of yesterday afternoon trying to become a functional member off the Ubuntu One forum as a starting point. I went through all of their steps (becoming a member as well as setting up an account which are two different things requiring the same user name and password). Apparently gMail can be a problem. So they tell you if you have a problem to contact the Administrator but then in order to contact the Admin you are required to be a full-fledged Member which I'm not...but trying to be. Lord, it should not be this difficult!

What I'm looking at is all the ins-and-outs of a Type 2 HyperViser. A software that can be loaded onto a fresh drive but which will allow multiple 'instances' of all kinds of OS's to be loaded onto into this type of private 'cloud' rather than the hardware of the computer. What do you know about this work-around? It may be called VMWare but I understand even MicroSoft offers such a hypervisor software. Only one HD actually loaded onto the computer but with instant access to all of the instances of OS's your heart might desire accessible much like opening a file. It sounds interesting to me and less threatening. Your thoughts?

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Virtual machines are a way to run multiple operating systems, as you've discovered.

The other way is a dual-boot setup. Either by using 2 partitions on the same drive or by using 2 discrete drives. You reboot when you want to go from Linux to Windows--or vice versa. Virtual machines don't require that rebooting.

Either can work and each has certain advantages--and disadvantages.

However----both dual boot and virtual machines are a complication.

Your bigger problem will be learning and using the alternate operating system---which is a large enough challenge in itself. I don't think I'd want to try to do a virtual machine if I had no experience whatsoever with the alternate OS. A steep learning curve becomes even steeper.

But it's your choice.

I wouldn't think Ubuntu would be at the top of the list of Linux distributions for someone without any Linux experience at all.

But I don't know anything about your expectations or your frustration tolerance. Maybe you've got 500 hours of free time you'd love to spend on it. Maybe your blood pressure has never been known to rise.

 

[Whazzupdoc]

A good heads-up! Thanks.

I'll continue looking into the Type2 (not the actual Vm rack idea...that doesn't interest me in the least!). But if I can learn all I can about the software Type2 and then load a Win7 on it plus whatever other (say, Linux Puppy or Mint as has been suggested), I should be able to buy myself the time needed to learn the ins and outs of that new OS. Man, even my friends have had their hands full just dealing with their 'progressive switch' to Win10. So they all have a learning curve. My hair can't get much more gray (at 77) and I've only started learning this stuff since 1/16 so hopefully what I'm trying to do won't be fatal!
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[Layback Bear]

Whazzupdoc

I believe you found out the same thing that I did on any Linux forum.
If you don't already know everything about Linux that really don't have any use for you on the forum.

People try to learn Linus as a beginner are just trash taking up forum space.

Lots of luck finding a Linux forum that is will to help and share information like this forums members.
If you do find one share it with the rest of us.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
I had some good luck with this one
"Solved" Clock 6 hours advanced switching back to win-7 - Linux Mint Forums

 

[legacy7955]

Thanks!

I wouldn't think Ubuntu would be at the top of the list of Linux distributions for someone without any Linux experience at all.

But I don't know anything about your expectations or your frustration tolerance. Maybe you've got 500 hours of free time you'd love to spend on it. Maybe your blood pressure has never been known to rise.

Thanks for your insight!

I would stick with MS IF they would relent and allow manual updates in 10 on Home and Pro...
I simply will not pay a fortune for the enterprise version just to be able to do something that should be simple as pie like it is on Windows 7. Considering the huge amount of problems users have had with the result of errant updates especially drivers you would think that MS would have relented and allowed manual updating on all versions of 10. I still have some hope that MS will change their minds possibly allow manual updating in the next year or two.

If MS continues to force auto updates on 10 I will be moving to Linux Mint.

 

[Whazzupdoc]

Thanks for drawing my attention to these fine posts...for me, actually the VM with Kari was the most meaningful. Truthfully, I am an a journey with this. It has just started but I intend to lay a firm foundation.
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