Windows 7 Release Candidate (RC) Branch Builds Get Tweaked

[pooch]

With Windows 7 Beta wrapped up since December 2008 and available as a public download starting on January 10, 2009, Microsoft has moved onward with the development of the operating system. The company is cooking builds in the Release Candidate branch, namely 70XX, and revealed that it would tweak a controversial security feature introduced with Windows Vista in accordance with user input. Jon DeVaan, senior vice president, Windows Core Operating System Division, together with Steven Sinofsky, senior vice president, Windows and Windows Live Engineering Group, indicated that, following user feedback, the way in which User Account Control worked would be optimized for Windows 7 Release Candidate (RC) in comparison with the Beta Build 7000 variant.

More;Windows 7 Release Candidate (RC) Branch Builds Get Tweaked - To increase the security of the operating system - Softpedia

 

[SIW2]

Hi,

Apparently M$ initially said there was no flaw and they were not going to do anything about it

Microsoft denies Windows 7 security feature contains bug

- now they say they have fixed it. Let's hope so.

See also http://www.itworld.com/windows/62169/microsoft-caves-will-change-windows-7-uac

SIW2

 

[pooch]

Apparently M$ initially said there was no flaw and they were not going to do anything about it

That's because there is no flaw

now they say they have fixed it. Let's hope so.

They have just changed it


I can understand them bowing to public pressure though as this would not have gone away

 

[SIW2]

That makes no sense - there must have been a flaw otherwise they wouldn't change it.

No shame in that - it is what early releases are for - to find bugs and vulnerabilities and fix them.

People complained about UAC in Vista - but it is very secure.

SIW2

 

[pooch]

That makes no sense - there must have been a flaw otherwise they wouldn't change it.

SIW2

Hi SIW,

As I understand it no. The only flaw was making UAC more user friendly with the results that your article points out. However to change UAC something must first get onto the computer and this has not yet happened.

My point is if you choose to switch UAC off or turn it down what do you expect??

It is like switching the Firewall off as it is asking to many annoying questions

 

[z3r010]

That's because there is no flaw



They have just changed it


I can understand them bowing to public pressure though as this would not have gone away

Totally agree m8, I couldn't see any way they could keep it as it was without the negative reporting putting down any future releases.

 

[SIW2]

Hi Pooch,

Yes I agree, if you use the lower level of UAC it is obvious to you and me that is not as secure as the higher levels.

Unfortunately, the general public is not you and me. They would likely be lulled into a false sense of security by having the pop ups set at the low level - in reality that could have easily been breached.

If I may quote Oscar Wide again - "Never overestimate the intelligence of the audience"

SIW2

 

[pooch]

Hi have a look at this new post that I have just found;
http://www.sevenforums.com/news/3589-windows-7-uac-fix-doesnt-address-uacs-fatal-flaw.html
It clears things up a bit

 

[SIW2]

They seem to have fixed it without going back to the Vista system - so should still be less intrusive.

The article is right, though, about people just clicking ok and not paying any attention - but it's your own fault if you do that.

SIW2

 

[pooch]

Totally agree m8, I couldn't see any way they could keep it as it was without the negative reporting putting down any future releases.

Thankyou, This is the problem

Hi Pooch,

Unfortunately, the general public is not you and me. They would likely be lulled into a false sense of security by having the pop ups set at the low level - in reality that could have easily been breached.

If I may quote Oscar Wide again - "Never overestimate the intelligence of the audience"

SIW2

I think it all depends on which angle you see it from.

You cant protect joe public if he is not willing to protect himself, but you can try!

Vista's UAC is right. But to many are complaining so now we have a no win solution because Microsoft is bowing to Peer pressure

 

[pooch]

they seem to have fixed it without going back to the vista system - so should still be less intrusive.

The article is right, though, about people just clicking ok and not paying any attention - but it's your own fault if you do that.

Siw2

 

[ittech]

you pay your nickel, and take your chances. life is all about making a long series of choices, and living with them. the general public at large I would put it to you cannot put a pic of their dog on their templated web page first time out of the blocks. i personally would like to see enhanced warning, not just the ms subtle advisory, but a two liner worst case warning of potential consequences given specific user input. i'm overworked as it is.

 

[Barman58]

Hi ITTech

One thing I've learned in this business over the years is, as with any other to be honest, Never complain you have too much work

Though I can understand your feelings with some of the users that are out there

 

[ittech]

i guess my point is, a dialogue box written over the tech head of the average user invokes..."well, i don't know....." click. today reloading an op sys runs around a hundred, unfortunately, that is significantly cheaper than for me to attempt to survey and correct what has gone south. the vast majority of users out there, can't load their own op sys either, never mind attempting to get their stuff off before they do.

 

[djhallucn8]

Hi ITTech

One thing I've learned in this business over the years is, as with any other to be honest, Never complain you have too much work

Though I can understand your feelings with some of the users that are out there

I run my own repair business & I have found that people are just as dumb as dirt, I love them to death & they are my customer but whoa, some of these people need major technology training or something. I started to charge for on phone tech support for matters that were simple & that I knew the customer could handle otherwise I would have to go out to their home.

 

[Mark]

After helping so many people in these forums I'm seriously thinking of doing the same thing.