Windows 7 extended support ends on January 14, 2020

[Melchior]

ooh joy something else I probably cannot afford... >_< >_>

 

[wither 2]

You mentioned earlier that there are still updates for Vista until 2020. The only updates I'm aware of are a few for 2008 R2 that can be applied to Vista.

From Lehnerus2000- "Remember to install Macrium Reflect (or other Imaging software) and make regular Backup Images, just in case some devastating malware does get released."

Also remember to create a boot disc from Macrium Reflect.

I'm running Vista on this system and have had no problems since it was dumped by Microsoft. I also use Norton Security and it has stopped anything that has tried to insert itself for the purposes of causing problems. The last thing I read said that less than 1% of computer users are using Vista. Not sure why anybody would want to go to the trouble of writing malware/viruses, etc. for it. The biggest problem is getting a workable browser (there's a big thread on that in the Vista forum) and, so far, both Firefox and Opera seem to do everything I want. IE 9 is not usable at some websites.

I plan to go the same route with the two Win 7 systems I have. Those have all the updates and I'll continue to update them.

Honestly, I don't think it would bother me that much to go to Win 10 but I would customize the hell out of it. I'll probably do that when this desktop finally dies (It turned eleven years old last week) and I need to buy a new system.

 

[Aardvarkly]

I had a look at the link lehnerus2000 posted above. It makes interesting reading. It shows W10 consistently worse than W7 for vulnerabilities. There should be a law preventing the sale of products that are clearly so unfit for purpose.

 

[NICK ADSL UK]

The only problem I've found from XP to Windows 10 on my 5 boot OS system is that the web stops to work in the way it once did with XP and Vista and in general, your computer becomes sluggish as the years go by despite having a fast spec.
there's no doubt about it for me in that windows 8 and 10 are the worst in the way they should work and leave a lot to be desired

 

[Brds7t7]

You mentioned earlier that there are still updates for Vista until 2020. The only updates I'm aware of are a few for 2008 R2 that can be applied to Vista.

Yes, they're just the server updates for 2008 R2 so not "official" Vista updates, but still applicable.

 

[townsbg]

Yes, they're just the server updates for 2008 R2 so not "official" Vista updates, but still applicable.

That would be 2008. 2008 R2 is the server version of 7. However jan 14, 2020 isn't just the support end date of 7 but also 2008/2008 r2.

 

[Brds7t7]

My mistake, was just replying to Wither who mentioned R2 in his post. Anyway, whichever version it is, they're easily available online. Googling "Post EOL updates for Vista" and they're all available in one mega link, so very easy to find.
Haven't used Vista myself since 7 came out, although never had any issues with it when I did use it.

Although I'm aware 7 and its Server equivalent both have the same dates for EOL, if businesses are getting paid updates I wouldn't be surprised if some repository crops up somewhere to download them. Again, I have no idea how those updates are being delivered so I can't comment on it until it happens in 2020.

If I'm not able to get the updates post 2020, I'm still not concerned about it, but if they're available I'll happily install them.

 

[wither 2]

I'm glad we had this discussion. I was going to ask about where to get the updates. Thanks for that link. Man, do I have the updating to do.

Thanks townsbg for the correction. Somewhere I had gotten the impression that the later updates to Vista were the same as R2.

 

[Brds7t7]

For anyone who wants to know the price for extended enterprise support, here's some info from ONMSFT:

Year 1 (January 2020 through January 2021): Windows 7 Pro is $50 per device, Windows Enterprise (add-on) is $25 per device.

Year 2 (January 2021 through January 2022): Windows 7 Pro is $100 per device, Windows Enterprise (add-on) is $50 per device.

Year 3 (January 2022 through January 2023): Windows 7 Pro is $200 per device, Windows Enterprise (add-on) is $100 per device.

Want to stay on Windows 7 past next year with extended support? Here’s what it will cost OnMSFT.com OnMSFT.com

 

[Paul Black]

For anyone who wants to know the price for extended enterprise support, here's some info from ONMSFT:

Year 1 (January 2020 through January 2021): Windows 7 Pro is $50 per device, Windows Enterprise (add-on) is $25 per device.

Year 2 (January 2021 through January 2022): Windows 7 Pro is $100 per device, Windows Enterprise (add-on) is $50 per device.

Year 3 (January 2022 through January 2023): Windows 7 Pro is $200 per device, Windows Enterprise (add-on) is $100 per device.

Want to stay on Windows 7 past next year with extended support? Here’s what it will cost OnMSFT.com OnMSFT.com

There's certainly a theme going on there!

 

[Melchior]

But I am running Windows 7 ULTIMATE x64... the article doesn't say how to actually do it...

 

[Brds7t7]

But I am running Windows 7 ULTIMATE x64... the article doesn't say how to actually do it...

Again, it isn't aimed at home users, it's meant for large businesses/enterprise customers. We won't get them offered to us, even if using 7 Pro.

 

[Melchior]

Again, it isn't aimed at home users, it's meant for large businesses/enterprise customers. We won't get them offered to us, even if using 7 Pro.

M$ sucks... some times.... Win7 is the best! Win10 I'm not so sure about..

 

[Fantail]

Being ready to rebuild my desktop, the thing I need to decide on is stick with 7, or drop 10 on it and deal with it.
If I could quote Thor Strindberg from anno 2070, "Now you can't even be bothered, to conceal your snooping!"

 

[BlueGuy]

ooh joy something else I probably cannot afford... >_< >_>

My feeling exactly.
EDIT: I know and love Linux, but my most used applications are in John Haller's PortableApps suite.
It doesn't run in Linux, AFAIK, but I haven't logged on to their forum in ages, so I don't know, since it was designed just after Sandisk's U3 came out {and died}. Migrating all the Mozilla data will be the greatest headache. Then there's the non-Mozilla stuff. IIRC, what I did was go into each U3 application and extract/copy/move those data files to their equivalent PAsuite programmes, made easy by the spellings being identical in most cases and their sub-folders. Not sure if that would be possible in any distro of Linux. Another thing, in light of several NAND memory failures that the PA suite actually runs faster on an old fashioned disk drive, so now it resides on its own 1TB 2.5inch laptop drive inside this all SATA workstation that also includes my backup Fonts collection and other legacy stuff going way back to W'98.
With W10, if I have to, I just move the drive over, with Linux a lot of hard work to get where I am now, but at least these days Linux can read NTFS.
Still don't know what path I'm taking.:sa: