Solved Why would I want Win-7 Ultimate?

[TechnoMage2016]

If, I wanted to install Windows 7 and I had a choice of Win-7 Pro or Win-7 Ultimate, why might I want to install Ultimate instead of Pro? (all 64 bit)



Are there any advantages to Ultimate, over Pro?
Just wondering.

 

[strollin]

Here's a link to an article describing the differences between the two versions: Difference Between Windows 7 Professional and Ultimate Edition | Difference Between

Basically, Ultimate adds Bitlocker, Boot from VHD and Language packs.

 

[TechnoMage2016]

Yup, that tells me exactly what I want to know. I'll stick with Pro, because I don't need all those Ultimate add-ons.

Thanks again.

Your Avatar reminds me of one of my favorite pic's. "Keep On Truckin'"

 

[Alejandro85]

For me THE tie-breaker is AppLocker.
While Pro has software restrictions policies, they're nowhere near as powerful as the real AppLocker.
It's simply one of the most important security features of Windows.

Coincidentally (and slighty off-topic), when considering downgrading to Windows 10 AppLocker is the single most important feature left out of Pro, only available in Enterprise. Yet another reason to stay on Win7.

 

[TechnoMage2016]

"Downgrading to Windows 10" ??? How can something that sounds so wrong, actually be so RIGHT?


I've probably installed Windows 10 at least 50+ times, and in all forms. And I just can't warm up to it.
To make it secure, involves a lot of tweaking, tuning and endless settings. What a pain in the A$$!


By installing the "Classic Shell" I can actually make it Usable, but it will never be my favorite OS.


Now I know....I won't be using Windows 7 Ultimate any time soon.


Thanks Y'all for all the input.
TechnoMage

 

[RoWin7]

For me THE tie-breaker is AppLocker.
While Pro has software restrictions policies, they're nowhere near as powerful as the real AppLocker.
It's simply one of the most important security features of Windows.

Coincidentally (and slighty off-topic), when considering downgrading to Windows 10 AppLocker is the single most important feature left out of Pro, only available in Enterprise. Yet another reason to stay on Win7.

Are you saying Ultimate has AppLocker? I have it in 3 machines, and no AppLocker.

 

[strollin]

I've been using Windows for 30 years or so and have never used Applocker and have never once wished I had that feature. Guess I can get along without it.

 

[Barman58]

I think that Applocker will work with Ultimate, (which is a general sales version of The Enterprise version of Win 7)

Of course you have to have the "other Parts" of the Applocker system running on a server to use the full functionality, It may show up on the Add Remove features list, but not looked at a copy of 7 Ultimate for a long while

 

[iko22]

I bought Windows Ultimate because I'd learned that it would have a subsystem support for UNIX components. This is a feature of Ultimate/Enterprise editions that is not switched on by default - you have to enable it via Windows Features.
I was interested in this feature because I wanted to catch up on my UNIX days and run some UNIX style programs. But when I got it I could not figure out how it worked and secondly, there was no point in having it, it would seem, once you have learned how to Dual Boot or VM install LINUX. Once I'd realized this, then the purchase of the Ultimate edition became redundant, and I'd needn't have bothered.

 

[Mike8615]

still using Windows 7 Ultimate and have no plans of getting rid of it. I have a nice install of Windows 10 Enterprise on a separate SSD and don't use it much. I only use it to run VM's and Android apps that can't be installed on Win 7. Windows 10 is too bloated and has too much junk I don't need

 

[Barman58]

One interesting thing on the alleged Bloat of Windows 10 ... a fresh un-patched copy of Windows 7 is actually noticeably larger than a fully patched version of the later versions of Windows 10 - not that much bloat there

 

[Alejandro85]

Are you saying Ultimate has AppLocker? I have it in 3 machines, and no AppLocker.

Yes, it has it. It's always there and no need to install anything else. Just open local policy and you'll find it. It's disabled by default, though.
You'll also find that all 7's feature list include AppLocker in the Ultimate column.

I think that Applocker will work with Ultimate, (which is a general sales version of The Enterprise version of Win 7)

Of course you have to have the "other Parts" of the bitlocker system running on a server to use the functionality, It may show up on the Add Remove features list, but not looked at a copy of 7 Ultimate for a long while

BitLocker and AppLocker are completely independient things and neither requires the other. BitLocker is a full-disk encryption system, and AppLocker is a policy-based program lockup system. They work on their own. Neither require installation from the features list, both are included and always there, ready to be activated whenever you want.

One interesting thing on the alleged Bloat of Windows 10 ... a fresh un-patched copy of Windows 7 is actually noticeably larger than a fully patched version of the later versions of Windows 10 - not that much bloat there

I still have to see that
Every single (original) disk I've seen Win10 is larger than 7, as they are in their clean install states. Not by a large amount, but still larger.
Not that it matters that much, bloat is not solely measured by disk size, but by built-in things, their relative usefulness and programs running, for example. A good metric is to see how easy is to use the system and not to clash into unwanted things. 7 has many basic utilities, but 10 has tons of other things like games, and more insultings, spam on the start menu! Two control panels, a tablet-based UI on a computer, more services permanently stealing data and publishing it to Microsoft, automated, unstopable updates that are known to break computers.
Add all that and then Win10 becomes much more bloated than 7.

 

[RoWin7]

How do I open local policy? What does AppLocker do?

NVM--I looked it up.

 

[Barman58]

Although it may be used in a number of ways, the Applocker System was developed originally for remote control of application access, applied by the System Administrator, as to what set users could access and use. This allowed the User level workstations to be setup in an identical layout with all the same applications present - Basically using a System image to install the application"load" on every user PC, the user would however only be allowed to run those applications that have been approved by the Administrator / Company.The Permissions would be held in the User settings that are located on the servers and would transfer to wherever the user was currently working

This system allows for straightforward access for all users to those applications, and only those applications, that they are supposed to use. It also means that if the user changes Job Role, or a new employee is taken on the applications needed for the new role can be unlocked "instantly"

Now, this type of setup has been manually managed by System Administrators for many years but in major multinationals this can get rather complex, automation with applocker allows the system to be much more efficient