I want to build a new Win 7 64 bit desktop with latest MB & CPU

MontanaBob

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I am going to build a new desktop using the latest motherboard. System will be maximum performance MB, CPU, RAM, etc.

Will any of today's high-end motherboards and CPUs run the Win 7 64 bit OS? I have two sealed, never-been-installed, disks with Win 7, 64 bit "Ultimate".

I've tried asking Asus and a couple of other MB manufacturers and all I get is "Why do you want run Win 7?" They refuse to tell me which, if any, of their current MBs will run Win 7!!!

I simply don't want to run Win 10!!!!!!

Thanks!

Montana Bob
 

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Welcome to the forum. Without knowing the spec we cant say in most cases there is a work around but more and more drivers are no written for 7 so you can get specific problems.
The problem is 7 is out of support and no updates so its at more risk everyday and wont be optimized for modern hardware
 

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Do you mean the x570 boards? People are using win7 on those, Canonkong recommends msi and gigagbyte, not asrock.


Forum - RE: x570 motherboard recommendations for ryzen 5000 series & windows 7 - 2


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I can confirm that yes the MSI Prestige X570 Creation motherboard (with the latest Beta bios at the time of writing this (which is version 7C36v1D1)) has full native windows 7 support with zero issues or blue screens or anything. "It just works". I'm using my Ryzen 5800X in this motherboard and it's fantastic, fast, and awesome.
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Update your Win 7 installation media
 

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Welcome to the forum. Without knowing the spec we cant say in most cases there is a work around but more and more drivers are no written for 7 so you can get specific problems.
The problem is 7 is out of support and no updates so its at more risk everyday and wont be optimized for modern hardware

Samaria,

I sincerely appreciate your prompt response. That said, I haven't the foggiest idea of the specifications, as I am at the very beginning of the component selection process that being choosing the MB and CPU. This computer will be used primarily for business purposes, therefore it it is absolutely critical that it performs flawlessly and reliably, day in and day out!

My present system functions perfectly and flawlessly and has since I built it just over 10 years ago. It is used 8 hours per day, 5 days a week. Needless to say, the MB and CPU are "long-of-tooth". I will say, that I have replaced the "C" drive, (now an SSD), power supply, graphics card, RAM and monitor along the way. I am fearful that one morning it won't boot, putting me and my clients in a major "pickle", hence my desire to build a new system.

My reasons for insisting that the new system be on Win 7 64 bit are multiple: 1) I loathe Win 10's accessing and "updating" my computer at will. 2) Much of my software will not run on Win 10, requiring a major outlay of money, unnecessary, as my present software is all that I need, and will need, for the foreseeable future. 3) I am extremely comfortable with Win 7 and prefer not to learn a new OS and new software, as there is nothing that a new OS or new software offers that I need or want.

Yes, I recognize the dangers of running an out-of-date and--now unsupported--OS. I protect myself by creating a drive image at the end of every day that the computer has run. No, not a backup, an actual drive image using Acronis "True Image". I create the image on a secondary internal HDD, which I then copy to an external HDD which resides in my fireproof gun safe. For "belt and suspenders", I also copy the entire image on a 256 Gb thumb drive which is on my key ring, so it goes with me should I leave my office. Yes, I'm anal about protecting my computer! Should I be "hit" with some virus, malware or the dreaded ransomware, I'd format and wipe my "C" drive and restore my most recent drive image and I'm good to go. BTW, I retain 10 to 15 drive images going back years, so I can always get back to a "clean" installation.

So, where do I go from here? My preference would be to buy a new, ready-made, gaming capable (for purposes of system longevity), Win 7 64 bit capable system, but, to my knowledge, no such animal exists. Therefore, I consider my only option is to build one myself. My main concern is that, although, I have built a number of computers, I have nowhere near the experience, knowledge, capability, or time to spend experimenting with all manner of workarounds to make BIOS changes, replace hardware, etc., to get various functions and/or drivers to operate correctly.

My apologies for the overly-lengthy tome, but I considered it necessary to fully explain my situation.

I look forward to any and all suggestions as to specific hardware recommendations including part name, model number and, hopefully, a source.

My sincere appreciation to all!

Montana Bob

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SIW2,

Please refer to my response to Samuri's post for a complete explanation of my needs.

BTW, I reviewed the links that you provide and see numerous issues, mainly USB driver(s) with Win 7 on an MSI motherboard. Correct me if I am wrong, but flawless operation and reliability seem to be at risk.

Much appreciated!

Montana Bob
 

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Just one thought: if backup is so critical you could just put together a mirror system of used components.
Or will you use what you have as that backup whole system? With two functioning setups you have belt and suspenders.
With just one MB and CPU there is just a belt.

I have wrestled with this myself for years.

Just now Win7 MSI MB's of the type I use are overpriced above MSRP. But I keep watching.
 

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BTW, I reviewed the links that you provide and see numerous issues, mainly USB driver(s) with Win 7 on an MSI motherboard. Correct me if I am wrong, but flawless operation and reliability seem to be at risk.

Windows 7 native installation media does not come with usb3 support or nvme support.

If you are not prepared to add the necessary updates and/or drivers, you won't be able to use recent equipment fully.

Intel 6th gen ( also called skylake ) is the last generation that ms "officially" supports for win7. But even for those 6th gen machines, usb3 and nvme support and graphics drivers need to be installed. MS released updates that add support for nvme disks on win7. None of those are already included in your win7 installation discs.

It is usually quite straightforward going a bit more recent - say intel 7th and 8th gen or Ryzen gen 2, because for example some manufacturers e.g. biostar released drivers for their motherboards, which can also be used on other motherboards of the matching gen.

But if you want to use win7 with very recent intel 9th/10th gen, or Ryzen 3 /5 series, you need to get creative.
 

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Windows 7 native installation media does not come with usb3 support or nvme support.

If you are not prepared to add the necessary updates and/or drivers, you won't be able to use recent equipment fully.

Intel 6th gen ( also called skylake ) is the last generation that ms "officially" supports for win7. But even for those 6th gen machines, usb3 and nvme support and graphics drivers need to be installed. MS released updates that add support for nvme disks on win7. None of those are already included in your win7 installation discs.

It is usually quite straightforward going a bit more recent - say intel 7th and 8th gen or Ryzen gen 2, because for example some manufacturers e.g. biostar released drivers for their motherboards, which can also be used on other motherboards of the matching gen.

But if you want to use win7 with very recent intel 9th/10th gen, or Ryzen 3 /5 series, you need to get creative.

SIW2,

If I understand you correctly, the simplest process would be to find a new "Skylake" MB. Am I correct?

Should I desire a MB with the latest technology, you say that I would have to "get creative". Please be more specific.

Thanks to all of you for your willingness to assist this ole fart with all of the dumb questions!

Montana Bob

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Just one thought: if backup is so critical you could just put together a mirror system of used components.
Or will you use what you have as that backup whole system? With two functioning setups you have belt and suspenders.
With just one MB and CPU there is just a belt.

I have wrestled with this myself for years.

Just now Win7 MSI MB's of the type I use are overpriced above MSRP. But I keep watching.

loninappleton,

From a hardware perspective, you are absolutely correct, "belt only". The problem is one of "office real estate". I simply don't have the physical space for two distinctly different systems, so I always build very conservative systems with components selected for longevity. I always use the largest case possible with two front mounted fans, one rear, a 250mm top-mounted fan, and the most efficient air CPU cooler (with fans). This is all in addition to the ubiquitous rear and power supply fans. I also pay a lot of attention to tieing off all cables to maximize air flow over the MB. Needless to say, no over-clocking! The result is a machine that runs at temps in the low thirties, Celsius.

That said, even with my conservative practices, a MB will only last through a certain number of heat/cool cycles and, IMO, at 10 years, I'm pushing the envelope. Please correct me if you feel that I am incorrect in that assumption!

Thanks for your thoughtful responses to my questions!

Montana Bob
 

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If I understand you correctly, the simplest process would be to find a new "Skylake" MB. Am I correct?

Yes , that is one way. Skylake ( intel 6th gen ) mobos will usually also accept 7th gen processors.
There are win7 drivers for 7th gen and 8th gen i3 and i5 cpu graphics from biostar.

Some 8th gen mobo such as msi or gigabyte b365 come with the win7 drivers ( except graphics) on their website.
The advantage of 8th gen is an increase in cores. 8th gen i5 has 6 cores, whereas earlier gens have 4 maximum.

I havent used the 8th gen mobos myself, but have read others doing it, and you can see the win7 drivers here at msi
MSI Global - The Leading Brand in High-end Gaming & Professional Creation

here at gigabyte
B365M D3H (rev. 1.0) Gallery | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global

and here are the cpu graphics drivers from biostar:
https://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/event/H310_windowstool/win7_8th_i3_i5_Driver_2.0.rar

You dont need those cpu graphics drivers if you use a separate card. In which case, those 365 boards can also run intel 9th gen.

Simplix update pack can be used to bring it up to date.

More recent than that is more complicated.
 
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<YIKES
ok, i'll keep my Intel dual-core, for now. ;}
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I am back in here just to see if any new comments. From what the OP said he's taking good care of his original system. The question he raised is on off cycles. But not things that people run into when motherboards go-- such as blown or bellied capacitors. There's plenty of pics on those available. The on off cycles-- just the number of times you turn the thing off and on would seem more related to power supply. But I don't know any Mean Time Between Failure for components.
The most sensitive parts seem to be things like SSD's.
I know he wants a new build but a recent example I had shows failure of component rather than MB. I just switched an AMD CPU with a slight upgrade (that I bought used during the COVID just to have something to do.) That started a CMOS fail problem-- had to reset over and over. I was finally so PO'ed doing tthat I put the slightly lower caliber original back in and the CMOS problem had not returned.
 

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I think I saw backup/restore operations mentioned. My laptops have a USB3 and a couple of USB2s. Now and then, I notice an external usb hdd enclosure appears to be USB3. I have USB3 and USB2 mixes, so my backup and restore speeds are dropped to USB2 levels.
I only mention the above to make this point: do the backups! regardless of what the usb ports are.
 
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I've tried asking Asus and a couple of other MB manufacturers and all I get is "Why do you want run Win 7?" They refuse to tell me which, if any, of their current MBs will run Win 7!!!

avoid ASUS MBs at all costs if you really want to run Win7 on a modern MB & CPU
 

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MontanaBob, maybe the best solution for you is to buy a last gen good Win 10 computer with a lot of memory and run Win 7 on a virtual machine.
 

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