Show Us Your WEI

[Bare Foot Kid]

Hello Giac, welcome to Seven Forums!



I'm sure someone here will have an answer for you.

 

[bloke]

agree those Intel ssd's are great, 2 Intel SSD's in raid 0 outperform 3 OCZ Vertex's in raid 0.
I need a little more OC, but Win 7 doesn't inable my USB keyboard until after it's passed the Bios enter screen, so until I get a regulay keyboard, I'm locked out of Bios.

can you get hold of a PS2 keyboard? there will more than likely be a setting somewhere in the bios 'usb keyboard support' or something along those lines, hopefully if there is and you enable it it may fix your issue. i know both my 790i boards have that setting somewhere in them.

 

[AntiSilence]

agree those Intel ssd's are great, 2 Intel SSD's in raid 0 outperform 3 OCZ Vertex's in raid 0.
I need a little more OC, but Win 7 doesn't inable my USB keyboard until after it's passed the Bios enter screen, so until I get a regulay keyboard, I'm locked out of Bios.

can you get hold of a PS2 keyboard? there will more than likely be a setting somewhere in the bios 'usb keyboard support' or something along those lines, hopefully if there is and you enable it it may fix your issue. i know both my 790i boards have that setting somewhere in them.

Nothing to do with Win 7.. It's USB Legacy Support in the BIOS.

 

[InternetLord]

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only 7.8 for my GPU! xfx hd 5870
what do you have to do for 7.9 crossfire?
and would have thought a 150gb velociraptor would have done better too

unfortunately the highest you are going to get on a velociraptor is 5.9. i have the 300gig and that is as high as i get. one user has theirs at 6.3. their wei is hacked to get that.

Not really all you have to do is disable write caching on the drive while doing the test. Not only did it increase my disk drive score from 5.9 to 6.2 it also helped my other score a bit. (In real life you need the caching on.) It show you how screwed up these artificial scores are.:sarc:

if you need the write caching in day to day use then the 6.2 score is a cheat. the idea of benchmarking is to see how a system will behave in normal day to day use.

 

[bloke]

agree those Intel ssd's are great, 2 Intel SSD's in raid 0 outperform 3 OCZ Vertex's in raid 0.
I need a little more OC, but Win 7 doesn't inable my USB keyboard until after it's passed the Bios enter screen, so until I get a regulay keyboard, I'm locked out of Bios.

can you get hold of a PS2 keyboard? there will more than likely be a setting somewhere in the bios 'usb keyboard support' or something along those lines, hopefully if there is and you enable it it may fix your issue. i know both my 790i boards have that setting somewhere in them.

Nothing to do with Win 7.. It's USB Legacy Support in the BIOS.

which is why i said to get a ps2 (old round style plug) k/b to gain access to the bios, from there there should be a setting somewhere to enable USB K/B support, they usually also have a setting to enable USB mouse support as well. my old Asus 680i mobo had the same problem, but once i set that setting to enable it was fine with a usb k/b.

 

[bloke]

unfortunately the highest you are going to get on a velociraptor is 5.9. i have the 300gig and that is as high as i get. one user has theirs at 6.3. their wei is hacked to get that.

Not really all you have to do is disable write caching on the drive while doing the test. Not only did it increase my disk drive score from 5.9 to 6.2 it also helped my other score a bit. (In real life you need the caching on.) It show you how screwed up these artificial scores are.:sarc:

if you need the write caching in day to day use then the 6.2 score is a cheat. the idea of benchmarking is to see how a system will behave in normal day to day use.

this is how i set up my o/s hdd, i always have set it up like this. the only problem is, is if your system is unstable and it crashes, you lose data.

other than that, there isnt a huge performance increase. it is more to do with command queuing for performance.

 

[torrentg]

this is how i set up my o/s hdd, i always have set it up like this. the only problem is, is if your system is unstable and it crashes, you lose data.

I was looking at this today on my system.

Do you happen to know if it can cause data loss on the drive itself...meaning previously already written good data? Like can it destroy an mp3 collection, let's say, for, instance?

 

[Jerry03]

 

[Bare Foot Kid]

Hello Jerry03, welcome to Seven Forums!

 

[KMoore4318]

can you get hold of a PS2 keyboard? there will more than likely be a setting somewhere in the bios 'usb keyboard support' or something along those lines, hopefully if there is and you enable it it may fix your issue. i know both my 790i boards have that setting somewhere in them.

Nothing to do with Win 7.. It's USB Legacy Support in the BIOS.

which is why i said to get a ps2 (old round style plug) k/b to gain access to the bios, from there there should be a setting somewhere to enable USB K/B support, they usually also have a setting to enable USB mouse support as well. my old Asus 680i mobo had the same problem, but once i set that setting to enable it was fine with a usb k/b.

A week ago I would have thought the same thing, For the last year I've been able to get into Bios, I have to watch the Keybord and mouse they have lights on them , as soon as I see the light flash I press deleat, the mother board beeps and the system goes into Bios, I've done that with Vista, and several RC versions, on the 3rd, I added two SSD's ( Intel X25-M ( Raid 0 )) and The ofical Win 7, Ultamate Full version, that is all I have changed, and now I cant get into Bios, the Mother board beeps before the lights flash on the Keyboard, so either the Win 7 Install, or the SSD's changed something enough so that I can not press delete fast enough. I guess I should have suspected the SSD's and not Win 7.

 

[bloke]

this is how i set up my o/s hdd, i always have set it up like this. the only problem is, is if your system is unstable and it crashes, you lose data.

I was looking at this today on my system.

Do you happen to know if it can cause data loss on the drive itself...meaning previously already written good data? Like can it destroy an mp3 collection, let's say, for, instance?

i couldnt tell you TBH, but any crash on a system has the opportunity to corrupt a hdd and in some cases the only fix is a format. i recently corrupted my registry (cant remember how) but i done a recovery with windows 7 (via usb) and instead of it fixing the issues, it simply copied a fresh registry to my system, causing all registries from installed programs to be lost, and in turn most of my software would no longer run.
which is why i am still setting up a fresh install (which is not always a bad thing).

this is from windows help on the setting

but from experience, in the event of a crash, only the data that is recent gets 'lost', but there is always that 'chance' of corruption. so use at your own risk, but i always use it on my main hdd, but not on my backup drive for obvious reasons (thats why its a backup drive )
Cache flushing


“Write caching” in a storage device refers to the use of high-speed volatile memory to collect write commands sent to data storage devices and cache them until the slower storage media (either physical disks or low-cost flash memory) can accommodate them. Most devices that use write caching require that power be supplied continuously.

By default, Windows employs cache flushing. This means that the system will periodically instruct the storage device to transfer all data waiting in the cache to the principal storage media. When you select Enable write caching on this device, you turn off these periodic commands to transfer the data. Not all devices support all of these features.
If high data transfer performance is your paramount concern, you should enable both settings: in the Removal Policy section, select the Better Performance option and in the Write-caching policy section, select Enable write caching on the device (if the system hardware and storage device support these features).

 

[bloke]

Nothing to do with Win 7.. It's USB Legacy Support in the BIOS.

which is why i said to get a ps2 (old round style plug) k/b to gain access to the bios, from there there should be a setting somewhere to enable USB K/B support, they usually also have a setting to enable USB mouse support as well. my old Asus 680i mobo had the same problem, but once i set that setting to enable it was fine with a usb k/b.

A week ago I would have thought the same thing, For the last year I've been able to get into Bios, I have to watch the Keybord and mouse they have lights on them , as soon as I see the light flash I press deleat, the mother board beeps and the system goes into Bios, I've done that with Vista, and several RC versions, on the 3rd, I added two SSD's ( Intel X25-M ( Raid 0 )) and The ofical Win 7, Ultamate Full version, that is all I have changed, and now I cant get into Bios, the Mother board beeps before the lights flash on the Keyboard, so either the Win 7 Install, or the SSD's changed something enough so that I can not press delete fast enough. I guess I should have suspected the SSD's and not Win 7.

Ok now i am seeing the rain a bit more clearly. as you figured out, any software does not affect the POST screen. the post is operated by the BIOS chip. so what you are saying is that since installing the SSD's you can no longer access the bios? maybe just try disconnecting the sata plug from the SSD's and see if then you can access it like you did before? that is defiantly strange that a hdd install causes that issue.

have you tried changing the k/b to a different usb slot?

But like i said before, if you can get access to the bios, go through all the settings and look for one that says USB k/b support and ensure it is set to enable (and mouse also if it has it listed). i would almost be certain that it will have the settings somewhere.

Also what EVGA x58 mobo do you have? there are 7 different models.

 

[AntiSilence]

can you get hold of a PS2 keyboard? there will more than likely be a setting somewhere in the bios 'usb keyboard support' or something along those lines, hopefully if there is and you enable it it may fix your issue. i know both my 790i boards have that setting somewhere in them.

Nothing to do with Win 7.. It's USB Legacy Support in the BIOS.

which is why i said to get a ps2 (old round style plug) k/b to gain access to the bios, from there there should be a setting somewhere to enable USB K/B support, they usually also have a setting to enable USB mouse support as well. my old Asus 680i mobo had the same problem, but once i set that setting to enable it was fine with a usb k/b.

Oops, sorry about that, I meant that as a reply to "but Win 7 doesn't inable my USB keyboard until after it's passed the Bios enter screen" from the person you quoted.

But, due to having some beer I messed it up. Sorry.

 

[bloke]

Nothing to do with Win 7.. It's USB Legacy Support in the BIOS.

which is why i said to get a ps2 (old round style plug) k/b to gain access to the bios, from there there should be a setting somewhere to enable USB K/B support, they usually also have a setting to enable USB mouse support as well. my old Asus 680i mobo had the same problem, but once i set that setting to enable it was fine with a usb k/b.

Oops, sorry about that, I meant that as a reply to "but Win 7 doesn't inable my USB keyboard until after it's passed the Bios enter screen" from the person you quoted.

But, due to having some beer I messed it up. Sorry.

ok now it makes sense.

 

[PaulGo]

unfortunately the highest you are going to get on a velociraptor is 5.9. i have the 300gig and that is as high as i get. one user has theirs at 6.3. their wei is hacked to get that.

Not really all you have to do is disable write caching on the drive while doing the test. Not only did it increase my disk drive score from 5.9 to 6.2 it also helped my other score a bit. (In real life you need the caching on.) It show you how screwed up these artificial scores are.:sarc:

if you need the write caching in day to day use then the 6.2 score is a cheat. the idea of benchmarking is to see how a system will behave in normal day to day use.

The point is you don't have to hack the WEI to get a better score. Howerver it is weird that a Windows "feature" that is supposed to increase disk performance actually results in a lower WEI score. Also their appears something wrong in the scaling or test criteria that a 10,000 rpm drive does not score better than 5.9 with disk caching turned on.

 

[PaulGo]

I just tried leaving the WEI with the write caching on and turning off the write caching buffer flushing and I got identical scores to the ones I posted erlier (including the 6.2 score for the Western Digital hard drive). So if you use a back up power supply and turn off the write caching buffer flushing it is possible to break the 5.9 hard drive barrier with a fast hard drive. I still don't understand why my other scores also increased slightly when doing this but that's my WEI score!

 

[bloke]

which is why i said to get a ps2 (old round style plug) k/b to gain access to the bios, from there there should be a setting somewhere to enable USB K/B support, they usually also have a setting to enable USB mouse support as well. my old Asus 680i mobo had the same problem, but once i set that setting to enable it was fine with a usb k/b.

A week ago I would have thought the same thing, For the last year I've been able to get into Bios, I have to watch the Keybord and mouse they have lights on them , as soon as I see the light flash I press deleat, the mother board beeps and the system goes into Bios, I've done that with Vista, and several RC versions, on the 3rd, I added two SSD's ( Intel X25-M ( Raid 0 )) and The ofical Win 7, Ultamate Full version, that is all I have changed, and now I cant get into Bios, the Mother board beeps before the lights flash on the Keyboard, so either the Win 7 Install, or the SSD's changed something enough so that I can not press delete fast enough. I guess I should have suspected the SSD's and not Win 7.

Ok now i am seeing the rain a bit more clearly. as you figured out, any software does not affect the POST screen. the post is operated by the BIOS chip. so what you are saying is that since installing the SSD's you can no longer access the bios? maybe just try disconnecting the sata plug from the SSD's and see if then you can access it like you did before? that is defiantly strange that a hdd install causes that issue.

have you tried changing the k/b to a different usb slot?

But like i said before, if you can get access to the bios, go through all the settings and look for one that says USB k/b support and ensure it is set to enable (and mouse also if it has it listed). i would almost be certain that it will have the settings somewhere.

Also what EVGA x58 mobo do you have? there are 7 different models.

Hey i was wondering if you had any luck yet? let me know what happens when you try it out.

 

[KMoore4318]

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A week ago I would have thought the same thing, For the last year I've been able to get into Bios, I have to watch the Keybord and mouse they have lights on them , as soon as I see the light flash I press deleat, the mother board beeps and the system goes into Bios, I've done that with Vista, and several RC versions, on the 3rd, I added two SSD's ( Intel X25-M ( Raid 0 )) and The ofical Win 7, Ultamate Full version, that is all I have changed, and now I cant get into Bios, the Mother board beeps before the lights flash on the Keyboard, so either the Win 7 Install, or the SSD's changed something enough so that I can not press delete fast enough. I guess I should have suspected the SSD's and not Win 7.

Ok now i am seeing the rain a bit more clearly. as you figured out, any software does not affect the POST screen. the post is operated by the BIOS chip. so what you are saying is that since installing the SSD's you can no longer access the bios? maybe just try disconnecting the sata plug from the SSD's and see if then you can access it like you did before? that is defiantly strange that a hdd install causes that issue.

have you tried changing the k/b to a different usb slot?

But like i said before, if you can get access to the bios, go through all the settings and look for one that says USB k/b support and ensure it is set to enable (and mouse also if it has it listed). i would almost be certain that it will have the settings somewhere.

Also what EVGA x58 mobo do you have? there are 7 different models.

Hey i was wondering if you had any luck yet? let me know what happens when you try it out.

I will post when I figureit out, but since it's not pressing I probably wont do anything for a while, will probably order a new PS2 keybord from newegg, or somewhere, and wait for ups to deliver. If it was pressing or a major issue I would run to Bestbuy and get one, but it's not that big of an issue, I can live with 7.7 for a while, I've been trying for 7.9 since rc1 came out, waiting another week wont kill me. besiddes if I can't pick up .2 with more OC, I'll have to wait on the I-9 anyway, and I think thats 3 or 4 months away.

 

[KMoore4318]

Also what EVGA x58 mobo do you have? there are 7 different models.

I have a E-760 with a 920D0 in this system, and a E-758 with a 965EE C0/C1 in my other system, the 758 is a 7.2 because it only has a 260 graphics card, where as the 760 has 2(295's) . the 920 clocks better than the 965, strange that the $800 cpu could only hit 4.0, while the $300 cpu can hit 4.3

 

[dgenx210]

argh! my processor is holding me back