I am 'impressed' so far with Windows 7!

[ukgovsucks]

Sorry. But I just have to announce this fact, as I was never this impressed with Vista at this stage. ( or on release!! ). With Vista I was more 'hopeful'. lol.

No seriously though, I'm throwing all manner of software at Windows 7 at the moment, and yes, there are things that won't install normally due to the software not recognising this version of Windows, but overall looking good!

The Mrs likes the themes. Which is I suppose the women's thing to look for in a new OS! lol.

I'm going to sound really geeky here and announce that I have come over all excited with anticipation of the release of Windows 7. Looking damn good! Soooo much better than Vista already. I seriously do think that once Windows 7 has been out for a while, history will look back on Vista as being the more recent Windows Me. In other words, an OS that should never have been released as it was.

Hurry up and get this released Microsoft! Then again, no, take your time! lol.

 

[Win 7 x64]

Oh she'll love the new sound scheme which is being deployed in build 7048, ha. Have to agree though that this os also gets me "excited" so much so that I have it as my only os on the two systems I have in the house, good times. It'll be allthe little tweaks that are getting tweaked behind the closed doors of microsoft. Fingers crossed it can only get better.

And yes ukgovdoesuck!

 

[Night Hawk]

I find that to the contrary about Vista being an ME II when XP 64bit saw a sad lack of 3rd party support. Vista turned out to be more stable then XP in a large variety of ways while 7 sees one thing new that will allow far more older programs to work on the next version. And what is that?

Simply right click on the installer.exe or setup.exe file for the older program you are trying to install or run and see the compatibility error and...



Gee? It's nice seeing some old XP softwares that wouldn't install on the next version suddenly found running on 7! But there are some already saying they will go back to... "Vista baby!" being somewhat dissappointed with 7 so far.

Fortunately not too many have made any statements like that to be sure of. Presently the setup here sees XP dual booted with 32bit 7 on one drive while Vista is waiting to see 64bit 7 going on the first drive while presently not being the default boot drive for the time being having 7 set as the default OS. Nice!

 

[Chappy]

Hey Guys

I think Vista should be seen as the OS that "Needed" to be released rather than the one that shouldn't have. Mainly, MS had to finally make a break from the old kernel and the patching that many 3rd party apps were far too accustomed to using, which only made the kernel that more insecure and unstable. Vista was such a monumental change to the core of the Windows OS that there inevitably were some major drawbacks at first, but overall I think they did a good job with it and turned things in a better direction overall for security. I guess the biggest drawback to Vista was the resources it needed...yah, that was a big whopping chunk of resources compared to anything ever released before, but now with 7 they've been able to modify and adjust that to a more realistic amount.

Granted, many XP users were scared to go Vista and many just didn't have the machines to make the jump and make it work decent, but I see that majority now making the leap to W7 when released as they're all about ready for a machine upgrade anyway, and 7 is getting good press. I think the W7 adoption rate is going to be staggering...

 

[ukgovsucks]

Hey Guys

I think Vista should be seen as the OS that "Needed" to be released rather than the one that shouldn't have. Mainly, MS had to finally make a break from the old kernel and the patching that many 3rd party apps were far too accustomed to using, which only made the kernel that more insecure and unstable. Vista was such a monumental change to the core of the Windows OS that there inevitably were some major drawbacks at first, but overall I think they did a good job with it and turned things in a better direction overall for security. I guess the biggest drawback to Vista was the resources it needed...yah, that was a big whopping chunk of resources compared to anything ever released before, but now with 7 they've been able to modify and adjust that to a more realistic amount.

Granted, many XP users were scared to go Vista and many just didn't have the machines to make the jump and make it work decent, but I see that majority now making the leap to W7 when released as they're all about ready for a machine upgrade anyway, and 7 is getting good press. I think the W7 adoption rate is going to be staggering...

Actually mate, you've made some very fair comments there. I think you're definitely going to be right with the possible adoption rate of Windows 7 too. Count me in!

 

[Night Hawk]

From what I've seen so far with the 32bit side of 7 it loads the desktop at an alarming rate over the two previous versions giving 7 an edge for MS there. But it still tends to see the same lag in shutdown time when going to retsart or shutdown for the night as seen with Vista. At first you see the waiting for logooff sound screen then followed by a long "Windows is shutting down" delay.

I have to give both Vista and 7 the thumbs up over XP for various other reasons however like a much needed crash control method while XP would tend to see solid lockups at times. The ctrl-alt-del combo will bring you to a different type of blue screen where you can elect to restart, logoff, shutdown, lock the system if not simply using the task manager to end a hung game or program to see the desktop again.

With all three versions running side by side on the same hardwares I seem to get a good collective overview and comparison between the three.

 

[RST101]

It is of my opinion microsoft had windows 7 cooking at the same time as vista because if I think about it (you can try this at home) they seem to be developing this an an alarming rate. I know they have trillions of people working on it but still............... Vista was obviously only half baked but now its time for this baby to come out of the oven. This is not only going to turn die hard xp users but I also reckon it will take some apple users as well, its that good, me myself can not find anything really negative. Of course there are gripes but there is not one future os they will will not find something to gripe about. Hats off to MS.

 

[garysgold]

I agree with Chappy. No matter how good they could have made Vista, it was destined to take a hit as the OS that 'my (old 16bit) software won't run on'. And the lag for drivers obviously didn't help. I like Vista, but I have the resources and I found other apps to replace the 16 bit apps that no longer worked.

Gary

 

[smarteyeball]

Vista should be applauded for weathering years of largely undeserved vitriolic rhetoric that often borders on the ludicrous.

One of the biggest reasons Vista failed was that it simply was not all that MS promised it to be. Over-hyped marketing 'killed' Vista before it's release.

'Bloat', incompatibilities and dodgy drivers compounded the disappointment and were the final nails in the coffin for Vistas public perception. Upgrades were required to satisfactorily run it too. But guess what? Upgrades were also required for the release of W95 and XP too, but funny how no body seems to mention that much when bashing Vista.

Windows Seven is currently succeeding where Vista 'failed' because of low initial expectations and a user generated hype that is provided by a beta OS that had a great foundation which was provided by, yep you guessed it, Vista.

As much as I like the Seven beta, I like Vista too. Much more than I ever liked XP.

 

[Night Hawk]

Did you say 95 expectations? When first setting up a dual boot for 95 with 98 I found 98 to a be lead slug compared to how fast 95 loaded up at the time. But how many now still run 95? You still see a good number with old systems running 98SE however!

Right before Vista was even seeing the RC releases I punched the XP up a notch by going from 1gb to 2gb and immediately saw a large improvement there. XP finally starting running a bit smoother overall. But it still saw lockups all too often if something cccccrasheddddd...!

Vista then came along and introduced a much needed improvement in crash control as well as far fewer errors while lacking updated software still seen after 2yrs. time. When 7 is out it will be also seeing support for a new usb 3.0 standard soon to be. http://www.usb.org/press/USB-IF_Press_Releases/2008_11_17_USB_IF.pdf

 

[Chappy]

Yah...how quickly they also forgot just how much of a DOG XP was when it was first released too!
XP was garbage until SP1 made sgnificant improvements in the core, and fixed many of the 1500 known bugs on RTM release. I remember how much bad press XP was recieving then too, and I was reminded of that when reading Vista's press, but it's funny how short some peoples memories are when it comes to OS bashing. The same people who bashed Vista all over Blog-Land, were the same people bashing XP for being simply LOUSY, but in their Vista bash blogs they were kneeling at the XP alter and offering it their 1st born, because it was now the BEST OS EVER DEVISED...

Hypocrites

 

[ukgovsucks]

Yah...how quickly they also forgot just how much of a DOG XP was when it was first released too!
XP was garbage until SP1 made sgnificant improvements in the core, and fixed many of the 1500 known bugs on RTM release. I remember how much bad press XP was recieving then too, and I was reminded of that when reading Vista's press, but it's funny how short some peoples memories are when it comes to OS bashing. The same people who bashed Vista all over Blog-Land, were the same people bashing XP for being simply LOUSY, but in their Vista bash blogs they were kneeling at the XP alter and offering it their 1st born, because it was now the BEST OS EVER DEVISED...

Hypocrites

We seem to have gone a bit 'off track' with this thread!?
This was supposed to be about how chuffed I am with Windows 7, not a debate on whether Vista is worth talking about or not. That's for another day. In fact Chappy, judging by your comments above, you must be as pleased as I am with how Windows 7 is coming along?

 

[brummyfan]

I like the new features in W7 and in particular the AeroSnap and the facility to create a recovery disc and many more but I am not in a hurry to ditch Vista as I am very fond of it now than when I acquired 18mths ago.

 

[Romulinx2]

Thankfully Windows 7 is a huge leap forward compared to the earlier GUI OS from Microsoft. It is fast and lean, easy to use and pretty to look at.

In the early days of the GUI OS, the OS actually slowed down the programs running on it. People sometimes forget that an OS is just the framework for your programs to run on, and shouldn't impede any programs usage.

Here ends the first history lesson.

 

[jimbo45]

I love the OP's userid (but it's not only the UK gov that sucks) -- hard though it might be to imagine some are even worse than "Gordon Clown" and his bunch of imbeciles -- and having to use "Anti terror legislation" on Icelandic Banks -- not sure what sort of a threat a country of 230,000 people poses to the world at large and the UK in praticular. AFAIK the UK had plenty of places to deposit money - they didn't have to use the Isl. Banking system to fund their bad mortgages and play casino with council taxpayers money.

However enough of that.

Vista failed basically for (IMO) the following reasons

1) It was rushed out of the door long before it was ready for prime time and installed on totally unsuitable hardware - giving users a not very pleasant experience.

2) Often computers were sold without an install disk so if you did get into trouble you really were left with just a brick. A lot of pre-installed installations also had a hidden 20 GB partition or so from which a recovery in theory could be made --however invariably this didn't work and effectively you had a wasted 20GB on your hard disk.

3) Pre-installed systems usually come with a whole load of "bloatware" so it was a double whammy -- you had an unsuitable OS which couldn't be optimized because you didn't have the OS install disk etc etc.

Now 2 years later Vista SP2 has appeared and of course tha hardware is better --even my humble laptop has a dual core T7250 processor with 4GB RAM.

VISTA SP2 actually isn't too horrible but once a product has got a bad image (whether rightly or wrongly) all you can do is to get rid of it ASAP and bring something else out.

Windows 7 is snappy and people seem to like what they've seen so far. Most of the mistakes have been learned -- and apparently it will even run OK on a 512MB Netbook. On a 1GB RAM netbook it works fine.

Of course we all have the install disks so we can tinker around and optiimize it -- this wasn't possible on a lot of OEM VISTA installs (no install disk given).

BTW in these "credit crunch days" if you ARE buying a new computer (although better value can be got by "rolling your own") you can always haggle for a RETAIL copy of the OS to be thrown in as well even if the system comes pre-installed. Most stores will gladly do that to make a sale.


Cheers
jimbo

 

[ukgovsucks]

I love the OP's userid (but it's not only the UK gov that sucks) -- hard though it might be to imagine some are even worse than "Gordon Clown" and his bunch of imbeciles -- and having to use "Anti terror legislation" on Icelandic Banks -- not sure what sort of a threat a country of 230,000 people poses to the world at large and the UK in praticular. AFAIK the UK had plenty of places to deposit money - they didn't have to use the Isl. Banking system to fund their bad mortgages and play casino with council taxpayers money.

However enough of that.

Vista failed basically for (IMO) the following reasons

1) It was rushed out of the door long before it was ready for prime time and installed on totally unsuitable hardware - giving users a not very pleasant experience.

2) Often computers were sold without an install disk so if you did get into trouble you really were left with just a brick. A lot of pre-installed installations also had a hidden 20 GB partition or so from which a recovery in theory could be made --however invariably this didn't work and effectively you had a wasted 20GB on your hard disk.

3) Pre-installed systems usually come with a whole load of "bloatware" so it was a double whammy -- you had an unsuitable OS which couldn't be optimized because you didn't have the OS install disk etc etc.

Now 2 years later Vista SP2 has appeared and of course tha hardware is better --even my humble laptop has a dual core T7250 processor with 4GB RAM.

VISTA SP2 actually isn't too horrible but once a product has got a bad image (whether rightly or wrongly) all you can do is to get rid of it ASAP and bring something else out.

Windows 7 is snappy and people seem to like what they've seen so far. Most of the mistakes have been learned -- and apparently it will even run OK on a 512MB Netbook. On a 1GB RAM netbook it works fine.

Of course we all have the install disks so we can tinker around and optiimize it -- this wasn't possible on a lot of OEM VISTA installs (no install disk given).

BTW in these "credit crunch days" if you ARE buying a new computer (although better value can be got by "rolling your own") you can always haggle for a RETAIL copy of the OS to be thrown in as well even if the system comes pre-installed. Most stores will gladly do that to make a sale.


Cheers
jimbo

Thanks for that mate. I think that most of the population of the UK probably agree with my view on the UK Gov right now. Bloody useless bunch of t**ts! They have basically turned our country into a police state where our freedoms of speech have been taken away in so many areas. They rip us off with so much in tax it's unreal. Now they are giving Banks loads of OUR money to help them out of their own mistakes!! Not to mention the illegal war AND occupation of Iraq! And YES, I AM a white British male that voted for these b*****ds! Never again! Please don't think that the UK public is the same as the so-called Government, because we are NOT! ( may be a few odd ones! ). Invade and occupy Iraq, but won't lift a finger when Israel blast hundreds of innocent people in Gaza!??
Jesus.

See what you've done mate? You've got me ranting on a Windows 7 forum!! lol.

Edit: Now look, I've had my thread moved to the Chillout Room to Chillout!! LOL.
I'm okay now, I've calmed down!