Need Full Windows Services List

[DarkPhoenix]

DarkPhoenix you may want to have a look at scheduled tasks in Windows 7 more so than services I think you will be shocked when you see whats scheduled to happen and the event triggers also it sounds like to me that using Vlite on your installation disc would be right up your alley you could pretty much strip out anything you don't want prior to installing Windows

I will look at that.. thanks..as far as Vlite.. it's too late until I can back up a few hundred gigs. I wish I knew about that before I installed Windows.. but at least this way I can learn about what i do not want and exclude it next time.

 

[Frostmourne]

What exactly are your specs? Do you have enough resources for 7?

 

[DarkPhoenix]

What exactly are your specs? Do you have enough resources for 7?

LOL .. Yes of course I do! It runs very well.. that is not the reason I want total control over this system. (it's not only about using less resources)

I have 4 gigs of ddr2 ram and an older pentium 4 (D) (cedar Mills) processor with hyperthreading. a 500 watt power supply, a new ATI HD 5750 1 gig ddr5 direct 11 video card, a new 500 gig hard drive with 32 mb of cache. An ECS GF7050VT-M motherboard with upgraded Bios.

Windows 7 smokes on this system for almost anything I want to do.

I understand the older processor can be a bottleneck, but I have had no problems and I do plan to upgrade it.. not for the operating system.. but so I can get more performance out of my video card for games.

 

[Frostmourne]

Specs are average, here are mine:

http://www.sevenforums.com/gaming/46227-excellent-gaming-performance-7-a.html

However, that CPU is a definite bottleneck guaranteed - limited cache and an old design. Why go for a 5750? That isn't a gaming card, relatively speaking.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

Specs are average, here are mine:

http://www.sevenforums.com/gaming/46227-excellent-gaming-performance-7-a.html

However, that CPU is a definite bottleneck guaranteed - limited cache and an old design. Why go for a 5750? That isn't a gaming card, relatively speaking.

Actually it is.. ATI tells me it's considered a middle of the line video card. I got it for a gift and that was the best card within the budget so I took it, and with 1 gig of DDR 5 plus pixel sharer 5.0 and direct x 11 support, it wasn't a bad deal at all. I picked it out over a lot of other cards I had to choose from. For the price it was the best. Better than Nvidia even because they do not support direct x 11 yet.. this according to the folks at the Nvidia forum.

It's the more affordable version of the 5800 series. But if you look at the specs for them both, my card is not that far off.

I can play most games on very high settings with no problems

The only things you have over me is the CPU, 4 extra gigs and the fact they are ddr3 and not ddr2. My Motherboard will not support ddr3.. If I can get one cheap enough, I may look into changing the board when I get ready to change the processor. But my system was not bad considering it only cost me 300 bucks a year ago and the board was made in early 2008. I'm on a budget, LOL

 

[Frostmourne]

Your card has a bottleneck - 128 bit bus vs my 4890's 256-bit. My 4890 has 800 shaders running @ 850MHz, yours has 720 @ 700MHz - and your pixel fill rate is just over 11 Gigapixels, my 4890 increases that by over 30% among other specs. It isn't a good choice at high resolutions.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

Your card has a bottleneck - 128 bit bus vs my 4890's 256-bit. My 4890 has 800 shaders running @ 850MHz, yours has 720 @ 700MHz - and your pixel fill rate is just over 11 Gigapixels, my 4890 increases that by over 30% among other specs. It isn't a good choice at high resolutions.

I would not know.. I always use 1024x768 for games. Desktop resolution is set at 1280X1024. I figure as long as the game looks nice it does not need to be in a higher resolution, and I like to have those extra resources for the game itself. (because of my CPU)

 

[Frostmourne]

That resolution is bottlenecked by the CPU and games take on a whole new dimension with a 22" 1080p widescreen monitor.

 

[CarlTR6]

I am going to try Black Vipers pages today but I have browsed the info and I find it lacking. For each service I need to know four things. What, How, Why and When, a little more in depth than he tells it.

What does the service do? How does it work exactly? Why does the service trigger? and When does it get triggered? This is how I need to understand the services to really know whats going on in any situation to know if I want to disable it or not.

It's the not knowing what my disk operating system may do at any given time that really bugs me.

I understand your point and I fully agree with what you are saying. Since I have not found that in depth explanation, I have chosen to go with what I learned - that is which services I can definitely disable. If I am unsure, a service stays manual.

 

[pezzonovante]

7 turns on services when it needs to. DON'T touch them. It will be a nightmare troubleshooting the side effects. Services also depend on other services. Honestly, why are people still concerned with resource usages? Hardware is cheap and you should never bother touching bits of OS to save 3MB. Put in 8GB of RAM, defrag your HDD, or run wiper.exe on an SSD, ensure your PC has enough grunt and get on with your life. 7 knows what its doing. That's what you pay Microsoft for.

With respect.. that is not what I pay Microsoft for. I pay for this system so I can learn about it, then cut 3/4's of it out and rebuild it in my own image.

Do I trust Microsoft to know what's best for the operating system I wish to use? No Way. Not since Bill stole the designs for the winows graphical user interface from Xerox and windows wants to phone home even if you tell it not to.. I use Windows operating systems to take advantage of the little good that's in it. If I were not a hard core gamer, I would chuck this system and use a version of linux.

Unfortunatly, the programs I want to run are made for this platform. When React OS grows up (a free version of windows xp) or Linux or another OS gets the ability to run all Microsoft compatible programs, I will leave MS in the dust.

I'm old enough to remember Microsoft as a small company. I remember all the dirty shady deals they tried to pull to try to get ahead. Most people in the know were shocked they ever made it to the top without some mafia type gangster getting in the way and taking them down. Trust them?? Not as far as you would trust Fidel Castro or Sadam Hussain.

Ha ha, this is all FUD against Microsoft spread by the crApple or LinSux fanboys. Microsoft has taken computing to the next level. They are the ones who care most about the end users. I have trusted Microsoft fully all my life and will forever do so.

 

[gregrocker]

The genius of Win7 is that they set formerly Auto services to Manual on fast triggers. So there is almost nothing (besides Tablet and maybe Offline files) which doesn't need to be running at the moment.

The exception might be networking services if you're not using those.

I previously lived by Black Viper's guides in XP and especially to tame pre-SP1 Vista bloatmonster. Not any longer, as Win7 has become the Black Viper.

 

[smarteyeball]

Specs are average, here are mine:

http://www.sevenforums.com/gaming/46227-excellent-gaming-performance-7-a.html

I wouldn't call your specs average. Decent enough though for an AMD build.

 

[z3r010]

I agree, they seem pretty good for a budget PC.

 

[BunBun]

EDIT:

I retract my post and point you all to Carl's. He said it much clearer and better.

 

[BunBun]

Ha ha, this is all FUD against Microsoft spread by the crApple or LinSux fanboys. Microsoft has taken computing to the next level. They are the ones who care most about the end users. I have trusted Microsoft fully all my life and will forever do so.

Actually you just became a fan boy. I hate Apple and its pretty OS and rarely use linux.

 

[BunBun]

And for the record again I agree with Dark. I say this instead of going on when all I would do is repeat what he has said.

@Frostmourne. I am glad you think your system is good and I also am glad you think your system is the bar at which everyone else should compare themselves.

And FYI what do I need presentationfontcache running for on my gaming machine? Really? It's disabled now...

I could go on but I am no longer wasting my time on fanboys.

 

[CarlTR6]

Hi Thorsen. FWIW You can run it live for windows 7, from here. (For this thread, on my computer, it only showed 2 services current)
http://live.sysinternals.com/Tcpview.exe

Thanks for that link. Now if I only knew what all of that means...

 

[CarlTR6]

Ha ha, this is all FUD against Microsoft spread by the crApple or LinSux fanboys. Microsoft has taken computing to the next level. They are the ones who care most about the end users. I have trusted Microsoft fully all my life and will forever do so.

With due respect, that strikes me as an extremely naive statement. Upfront, I want to state that I am not anti-MS. If it were not for MS and IBM, we would not be sitting at our personal computers enjoying this forum. MS-DOS and IBM brought affordable personal computing to us.

That said, MS is a large corporation whose bottom line is profit. There is nothing wrong with that. Free enterprise has made this country great. Has MS broken the law and/or violated ethics? You bet; such actions have been thoroughly documented. Have they used heavy handed tactics at times to squash competition? You bet; such is also thoroughly documented. Has MS done anything that many, maybe most corporations, have done worldwide? No. Does that justify it and make it right? No.

Bottom line: I don't trust MS, GM, Toyota, Michelin, or any other large corporation with my life any more than I trust the government, especially the government. I want to be free to make my own decisions about life and about computing and I accept the consequences of any bad decisions I make.

I never care about which services are running- Microsoft knows a billion times more than I do about their operating system. Disabling services can only cause trouble.

Not quite true. Disabling needed services can only cause trouble. The trick is to know which services you need for your computer setup and for your computing purposes. Does it hurt anything to let unneeded services run anyway? Probably not unless one is using resources right at the max. But for me it is the learning experience of my OS.

 

[Thorsen]

Hi Thorsen. FWIW You can run it live for windows 7, from here. (For this thread, on my computer, it only showed 2 services current)
http://live.sysinternals.com/Tcpview.exe

Thanks for that link. Now if I only knew what all of that means...

The program linked was something I used frequently on XP it shows you all of the programs that are listening or communicating over networks/internet/etc. so you can see that program x is sending and recieving info or is listening for incoming network activity.

There is now a Live version that is run as an ?online-app? I guess over the internet so you dont have to install it. The original program itself though is a standalone app that doesn't even need to be installed and its only a few k's.... fun stuff. All of sysinternals apps are top-notch and low footprint.

I suggest checking out Process Explorer as an alternative to Task manager/System monitor as it shows all process threads and you can stop individual threads/processes/services/and even whole process trees. You can also Pause/resume/restart processes and view all information on each process. It's amazing.

 

[gregrocker]

Bottom line: I don't trust MS, GM, Toyota, Michelin, or any other large corporation with my life any more than I trust the government, especially the government. I want to be free to make my own decisions about life and about computing and I accept the consequences of any bad decisions I make.

But GM doesn't provide free cars to every African schoolkid, Toyota doesn't use their profits to fund half of the world's HIV drugs, Michelin doesn't wire third world countries to get PC's in every school.

There is a difference between MS and typical megacorp, and it is the good they are doing with their profits from a billion customers. They are helping another billion, and humanity itself.

What other corp can say that? Give credit where it is due.